His whole career? His peak years were at Madrid.
Cristiano Ronaldo
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Yeah true but he did also win the ballon d'or while he was here, which only Law, Charlton and Best won before while playing for us. So he's up there with them and also if you take into account how he played at Madrid as a player you can definitely make arguments on him being a greater player.
Yes, but "Manchester United's greatest ever player" is the argument, everything he's done since 2009 doesn't factor in. Charlton or Best for me.
I'm sorry, but you can't really take that into consideration when rating his time spent as a United player. That's just nonsense.
It's obvious that for some, the old adage that no player is bigger than the club, simply doesn't apply to when it comes to Ronaldo.
It's a never ending debate that can be looked at so many different ways.
During Ronaldo's time at United, he was the key in such a successful period, going close to single-handedly winning us trophies and especially the European Cup. Compare that to others in different generations and he enters that debate.
Fans from different times will have their opinion set in stone as it played such a big part in their life growing up. I have followed United since the early 90s and understood football and what was happening from probably 1994 and whilst there have been many greats who I have idolized, Cantona, Keane, Becks, Scholes, Giggs, the list just goes on really, I have to say at the end of the day, he is the best player I have seen at United.
And that leads into the debate about 'needing' him and I fully understand it and probably lean towards looking elsewhere but it's such a tough position because many of us look at him as a a type god and would take him back if he was 40 years old with a broken leg, it's just a natural feeling when you have a relationship with a player like many of us do woth Ronaldo.
During Ronaldo's time at United, he was the key in such a successful period, going close to single-handedly winning us trophies and especially the European Cup. Compare that to others in different generations and he enters that debate.
Fans from different times will have their opinion set in stone as it played such a big part in their life growing up. I have followed United since the early 90s and understood football and what was happening from probably 1994 and whilst there have been many greats who I have idolized, Cantona, Keane, Becks, Scholes, Giggs, the list just goes on really, I have to say at the end of the day, he is the best player I have seen at United.
And that leads into the debate about 'needing' him and I fully understand it and probably lean towards looking elsewhere but it's such a tough position because many of us look at him as a a type god and would take him back if he was 40 years old with a broken leg, it's just a natural feeling when you have a relationship with a player like many of us do woth Ronaldo.
He would love to play alongside with Di Maria and perhaps Rooney again, as they would assist him all the goals he wants. I wouldn't hesitate to bid 60m on him, even he is 29. Lets face it, there's only two players in this planet who could guarantee you 50 goals a season. You just sign them at all cost if available.
Would he want his no.7 shirt back?
What if Di Maria has agreed already to give up the shirt after a year for Ronny, they are friends, Ronny's brand includes the number plus at least he got the honour of 1 year in that iconic shirt. I don't think he'd be too bothered really.
Take into account the younger generation won't have a clue how good best and charlton were and so will automatically think that Ronny is the greatest having sen him crowned the world's best whilst with us.
nsis.... his brand is CR7, image rights etc depend on it..Agree with this esp about post retirement, he could always help us out recruiting players like Zidane has done for Madrid over the years.
Those wage rumours are scary. Woody wouldnt do it though if it doesnt make financial sense,he's a money man first Woody so I trust him when it comes to such big numbers.
Depends what share of commercial revenue we got, image rights, clauses, it could potentially still earn both sides considerable sums IMO, he is a global icon.
Yeah.. Fine margins. Atletico could have easily won it. Even then, La Decima was won by Di Maria & Bale. Ronaldo was a pheripheral figure throughout the game before converting a pointless penalty in extra-time. And for La Liga, what was it? one league win in over 6 seasons? Not as successful as you put it out to be.
It's the fact he tried so hard for personal glory that i find it nauseating. Then again, what am I thinking off? criticizing Ronaldo with his no.1 fanboy in the Caf..
Just get him back already!
If Ronaldo can't play as a striker now what makes you think he'll be able to when he loses his pace, one of his biggest assets?
Yeah, he struggles as a striker when a lot of the play is with his back to goal. Not sure why people think he'd be a success there when his pace is going.
Do people believe when you hit 30 your legs fall off? Guarantee you that because of the shape he keeps himself in at 33 or so he will still be one of the quicker ones in the division he is in, maybe no longer the fastest, but he'll never be "slow" or to a point his pace can't be used, furthermore, as people age, they tend to adapt their game slightly, and he has all the skills to be able to do so, I don't know why or how people can continue to doubt him.
I didn't say it would go anytime soon, I was just saying I disagree with people who think he will be very good up front whenever his pace does go. I know he can adapt his game but a winger learning to become effective up front seems like quite a big ask. Playing with his back to goal and holding the ball up aren't really things he is just gonna pick up and perfect all of a sudden, IMO.
I don't think he will ever become a striker either, I was more commenting on his decline of pace, I'd imagine he would slot nicely in a more central role behind the striker where he won't have to run as much to be as involved..
I think he has at least another season or two of being rapid and then probably another two seasons of still being faster than a lot of players before he might have to make any position change anyway, FWIW.
Falcao involved in some sort of swap deal?! Sounds very speculative.
I'm talking about Ronaldo's overall career. He's the most talented player we've ever had. None of the above players scored 50+ a season like Ronnie has.
He didn't do that at United though so you can't really use those seasons when saying he's United's best ever player. You can only judge him on his time at United for that.
He's the best player United ever produced. Better?
Sorry but it's not even close, it's like saying you think 9kg is more than 10kg, it isn't and he hasn't scored 50 goals a season while at Utd
Better.
It is close. Although it's impossible to measure, it's surely fine margins between all of our greatest players.
This is happening.
No chance this is gonna happen.
Just sorting my 'I was right all along, look' moment, twitter journo style.
Its certainly close. However there are different factors involved, and it largely depends on how you weight up all those factors.
For some people how long a player stays equals loyalty, and that loyalty is a big part of the decision. That's one of the reasons that Giggs is such a legend. Others will see on the field commitment as a major factor. Ronaldo was often stroppy, while someone like Robbo was Captain Marvel for a reason, his attitude was inspiring. Others look at historical impact. In that respect few people can match Cantona, who gave us that extra something that turned us from a decent team to the dominant force in 90s football.
However the fact that Ronaldo is being included in the mix despite all that is testament to just how good he was. He only spent three years at United playing at a world class level, but he was so good during that short time that SAF describes him as definitely the most talented player he ever worked with.
I wasn't saying that, I was more arguing against the fact that people think that he'll start banging them in as a striker, no problem. If he struggles (relative to his ability) as a striker now, at his peak, then why do people think he'll be able to do it IF he loses his pace. Sure he can adapt his game but playing as a lone striker is very different to playing as an inside forward.
Who are the people that think that?
The initial post I quoted
Crazy, maybe people should make a list of players who's legs went when they reached 30 or something. Giggs for example, oh wait.
Ronaldo will play top class football well into his 30's, he really looks after himself.
Let's ignore him breaking the all time goal scoring record in the CL en route to the final...
You might as well say Ramos won La Decima.
when did he score 50+ goals in a season for United ?
Your statement that he is the most talented player United has ever had is just wrong.
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