Cristiano Ronaldo

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Because no one really knows anyway unless you're +70 years old.

Plus, there simply must be some revisionism in this Edwards hype. I mean he was 21 when he died.

I'm not saying he didn't have the potential to be a Pele or Cristiano Ronaldo but to claim he was better than the latter, a player who has won it all more than once on club level and gotten the Ballon d'Or twice? It makes no sense.

Bryan Robson hardly won anything and is rightly regarded as a legend at the club. Nothing about how much you won and the like for me; the guy was fantastic and he'd be on my team far faster than someone like Ronaldo, along with Best and Edwards.

Ronaldo's trophy haul is incredible but yeah, it is a different game with alot more money which is not very evenly spread out. Look, he's a class player but when the chips are down I think there's others in our clubs history who'd pull a game outta the fire. Not all about goal tallies to me.
 
Making accusations like that to people who have seen these players play that have the cheek to have a different opinion to your own and when you probably have not even seen them yourself :wenger:. Those opinions I expressed are not "different from the norm". Lots of people do not consider him to be as good as messi, let alone the very best ever. I have watched lots of full matches for a lot of those players, not just highlights like you seem to be implying. I would say I have much more to base my opinions on than you. Ronaldo not as good as messi/maradona/pele an opinion that is different to the norm :lol:. Did it ever occur in your little mind that some people have actually watched these players play and have then, dare I say, formed an opinion that is different to your own. Or is that to hard for you to comprehend and whenever you see an opinion that is different to your own you assume that they are as clueless as you are and that they must be trying to be different or controversial when they are just giving an opinion that they have formed from what they have seen with their own eyes. But of course mate, I am just trying to be different ;).

To criticise a player who has achieved so much in the game is, to me, petty. He can only do what he can do in the era he plays in and other than Messi, who is considered by many to be arguably the best player to play the game, he has achieved more than any other player.

That's a fact - his stats stand up to scrutiny against any of the great players of years gone by.

I have watched a lot of football over the years and believe there have been lots of very good, world class players. As I said, it's impossible in my opinion to compare era's because the game in so different. Watching George Best - a player I love, is not the same as watching Brazil's Ronaldo, or watching Cristiano Ronaldo, likewise the next generation will be different.

Have your opinion, you are entitled to it. I am not small minded - I see a player who's form, desire, ability and achievements are equal to anyone playing the game in the modern era possibly other than Messi, a player who is undoubtedly one of the best ever.

Bottom line - Ronaldo, along with Messi, is a player I'll be telling the next generation about. His record does, and will compare with the best to play the game on terms of actual achievements on the pitch and that, in my "small mind" equates to greatness.
 
To criticise a player who has achieved so much in the game is, to me, petty. He can only do what he can do in the era he plays in and other than Messi, who is considered by many to be arguably the best player to play the game, he has achieved more than any other player.

That's a fact - his stats stand up to scrutiny against any of the great players of years gone by.

I have watched a lot of football over the years and believe there have been lots of very good, world class players. As I said, it's impossible in my opinion to compare era's because the game in so different. Watching George Best - a player I love, is not the same as watching Brazil's Ronaldo, or watching Cristiano Ronaldo, likewise the next generation will be different.

Have your opinion, you are entitled to it. I am not small minded - I see a player who's form, desire, ability and achievements are equal to anyone playing the game in the modern era possibly other than Messi, a player who is undoubtedly one of the best ever.

Bottom line - Ronaldo, along with Messi, is a player I'll be telling the next generation about. His record does, and will compare with the best to play the game on terms of actual achievements on the pitch and that, in my "small mind" equates to greatness.
I have never criticised Ronaldo. Saying he is not as good as pele or other players of that level is not criticism, its just what i (and a lot of others) consider to be a fact. I agree that Ronaldo is great and he is the second best player in the world today. But i do not see how he can be considered to be as good as anyone like you say. Put Ronaldo in Pele's shoes, he maybe could have matched his goalscoring rate (which is still a big maybe, imo), but he never could have played Pele's role in 1970, but that's what the team needed him to do to become the one of the best international sides of all time. The striker Pele wouldn't have been enough. With ronaldo instead of Pele, that side wouldn't have existed and that would be really sad

The players i consider to be in the top tier have more to them than goals. They are more complete footballers and can make stuff happen by themselves on a more regular basis than ronaldo. They can all play in the middle of the pitch too where their is less space (something Ronaldo is incapable of doing). When there is not much space then Ronaldo struggles a lot more than them players do. Ronaldo has a lot to his game, but not as much as those guys. As well as score lots of goals, messi, maradona, di Stefano, cruyff could play-make and inspire the team around them, raise the level their team and make their teammates play better. Ronaldo does not do that. That is why for me he is in the second tier and i am sure that is where the majority of people would have him. That is not a criticism, he is in their with some very good players to keep him company like puskas, Brazilian Ronaldo etc.
 
I would say it's ridiculous.

Ronaldo is one of the games best ever players. Players now are generally much better than players from years ago.

Anyone who is going to tell you that for example George Best was better than Ronaldo is off their scone as far as I'm concerned. The game has moved on.

There's no doubt in my mind Messi is better than any other player that's ever lived.

Is this the same Messi who has been doin a cracking berbatov impression lately?
 
I still would have him back, even though I find the "bring back Ronaldo" brigade who think he's utterly infatuated with the club a bit cringeworthy at times.

While it's true that his pace - massive asset of his game - will decrease as he ages, I think people are almost underestimating how brilliant he is as an all-round footballer. The guy is a brilliant goalscorer, whether that be from a free-kick, a general shot from outside or inside the area, or even from headers. He has some superb ball control and skill, among plenty of other attributes. Even if his pace decreases, he's still going to be a superb all-round player in my opinion.

I think the only thing that would really hold him back, barring a sudden, unexpected loss of form, would be too many recurring injury problems.
 
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Dig again at Mendes?
On another note ofc Perez is not going to question Ronaldo while announcing mega income, with Ronaldo being the main reason for that income :smirk:
Di Maria recently said that Ronaldo was on his side during the whole ordeal. He went on to say that he doesnt know how longer he'll be at madrid. I reckon he'll get tired of them pretty soon tbh.
 
Di Maria recently said that Ronaldo was on his side during the whole ordeal. He went on to say that he doesnt know how longer he'll be at madrid. I reckon he'll get tired of them pretty soon tbh.
I reckon he's looking at the money United are spending and is looking to get a sniff of the pie.
 
No, I can't make any kind of meaningful comparison based on reading up on a player, therefore it's senseless to begin with those kinds of comparisons.
So, you have no clue how good players like Best, Edwards or Charlton were, yet you say it's ridiculous when someone suggests that they were a better player for the Club than Ronaldo.
 
I reckon he's looking at the money United are spending and is looking to get a sniff of the pie.
I think he's looking at United and seeing the team its building in combination with his love of the club and thinking, maybe it wouldn't be a bad place to finish his career. Money is obviously important to Ronaldo but we would have offered him the world to stay at United when he left. Sometimes like Di Maria said when he left Madrid there are other things in football that motivate players other than money, such as loyalty, which I think he's now realising he'll get none of at Madrid.
 
I have never criticised Ronaldo. Saying he is not as good as pele or other players of that level is not criticism, its just what i (and a lot of others) consider to be a fact. I agree that Ronaldo is great and he is the second best player in the world today. But i do not see how he can be considered to be as good as anyone like you say. Put Ronaldo in Pele's shoes, he maybe could have matched his goalscoring rate (which is still a big maybe, imo), but he never could have played Pele's role in 1970, but that's what the team needed him to do to become the one of the best international sides of all time. The striker Pele wouldn't have been enough. With ronaldo instead of Pele, that side wouldn't have existed and that would be really sad

The players i consider to be in the top tier have more to them than goals. They are more complete footballers and can make stuff happen by themselves on a more regular basis than ronaldo. They can all play in the middle of the pitch too where their is less space (something Ronaldo is incapable of doing). When there is not much space then Ronaldo struggles a lot more than them players do. Ronaldo has a lot to his game, but not as much as those guys. As well as score lots of goals, messi, maradona, di Stefano, cruyff could play-make and inspire the team around them, raise the level their team and make their teammates play better. Ronaldo does not do that. That is why for me he is in the second tier and i am sure that is where the majority of people would have him. That is not a criticism, he is in their with some very good players to keep him company like puskas, Brazilian Ronaldo etc.

Ronaldo isn't just a goalscorer though, he is the most complete attacker one can find whoes main focus is scoring plenty of goals. he is a constant threat and could score goals out of no where, where opponents teams are required to double mark him all the time. Best player of all time in counter attack situation as well.
 
I think he's looking at United and seeing the team its building in combination with his love of the club and thinking, maybe it wouldn't be a bad place to finish his career. Money is obviously important to Ronaldo but we would have offered him the world to stay at United when he left. Sometimes like Di Maria said when he left Madrid there are other things in football that motivate players other than money, such as loyalty, which I think he's now realising he'll get none of at Madrid.
It was his dream to play for Madrid, he couldn't wait to get there. He's a smart man and always keeps his options open, truth is you can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
He's a fantastic player, and I'd have him back at the Club in a heartbeat, however, no player is bigger than the Club, even if it is Ronaldo.
 
Is this the same Messi who has been doin a cracking berbatov impression lately?
It's probably the Messi who has been acknowledged as the game's greatest player and a level above the rest 4 years in a row and only not during a year plauged by injury, health and off field problems.
 
That picture was when United played against benfica and he showed is affection for his dad's club.

well we know what ronaldos like. He wasnt getting a good reception and dont think he had a great gane that night.
 
I have never criticised Ronaldo. Saying he is not as good as pele or other players of that level is not criticism, its just what i (and a lot of others) consider to be a fact. I agree that Ronaldo is great and he is the second best player in the world today. But i do not see how he can be considered to be as good as anyone like you say. Put Ronaldo in Pele's shoes, he maybe could have matched his goalscoring rate (which is still a big maybe, imo), but he never could have played Pele's role in 1970, but that's what the team needed him to do to become the one of the best international sides of all time. The striker Pele wouldn't have been enough. With ronaldo instead of Pele, that side wouldn't have existed and that would be really sad

The players i consider to be in the top tier have more to them than goals. They are more complete footballers and can make stuff happen by themselves on a more regular basis than ronaldo. They can all play in the middle of the pitch too where their is less space (something Ronaldo is incapable of doing). When there is not much space then Ronaldo struggles a lot more than them players do. Ronaldo has a lot to his game, but not as much as those guys. As well as score lots of goals, messi, maradona, di Stefano, cruyff could play-make and inspire the team around them, raise the level their team and make their teammates play better. Ronaldo does not do that. That is why for me he is in the second tier and i am sure that is where the majority of people would have him. That is not a criticism, he is in their with some very good players to keep him company like puskas, Brazilian Ronaldo etc.

You clearly have your opinion and that's fine.

I think you're underplaying the impact he's had. He, for me, has had a huge impact in terms of how wide players play the game. He was the first winger to really have the kind of threat in terms or goal scoring that a forward does, whilst still creating plenty of goals for others. There are lots of wide players trying to do that job these days and few, if any, do it anywhere near the level he does.

He does more than score goals - but even if he didn't, the sheer number that he scores and the fact that he has performed in the big games is what makes him a great.

At the evd if the day his job is to score goals and he does it better than anyone else. You seem to think that a player who creates is greater than a player who scores but the latter can win as many games, if not more than the former. I don't see how a great creator is any more important than a great goalscorer - especially when the goalscorer is winning games regularly for you.

He's the perfect forward for me - pacey, strong, powerful, skilful with a great record and great attitude. As I said, that's what makes him a great - alongside his ability to do it on big occasions.

What I find most bizzare is the suggestion that a player like that doesn't inspire the team around them. The trophies he's won suggests he does do that.
 
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It's probably the Messi who has been acknowledged as the game's greatest player and a level above the rest 4 years in a row and only not during a year plauged by injury, health and off field problems.

Only been two games so far but he also looks like he's back to his best too, before the injury against PSG in March 2013. Luis Enrique must have lit a fire under his arse cause he's done more running about in the last 180 minutes of football than he's done in the past 12 months.
 
Ronaldo isn't just a goalscorer though, he is the most complete attacker one can find whoes main focus is scoring plenty of goals. he is a constant threat and could score goals out of no where, where opponents teams are required to double mark him all the time. Best player of all time in counter attack situation as well.
That will never make sense to anyone who has seen Pele play the game. It does not matter how many times it is repeated it, it's just wrong, period. Pele was as good an athlete in his time as Ronaldo is today, and was just as prolific (perhaps even more so) and also was the player that defined the number 10 role for decades as and in addition to that he did it while being the outstanding and main player in a team that was winning the most important titles. You cannot be a more complete attacking player than Pele was, its just not possible. It might be possible to surpass his peak level in certain areas like Maradona who became an even better playmaker, for example. Ronaldo certainly has not done that though.

Ronaldo is a complete goalscorer in that he can score a variety of different goals (ie left foot, header, freekicks, outside the box from different angles etc) but he is not the most complete attacker. Messi certainly has more to his all-round games and that is why he can play in the middle, out-wide and also drop deep. When there is little space Ronaldo suffers much more than messi does and is also more dependant on service from others than messi is.
 
That will never make sense to anyone who has seen Pele play the game. It does not matter how many times it is repeated it, it's just wrong, period. Pele was as good an athlete in his time as Ronaldo is today, and was just as prolific (perhaps even more so) and also was the player that defined the number 10 role for decades as and in addition to that he did it while being the outstanding and main player in a team that was winning the most important titles. You cannot be a more complete attacking player than Pele was, its just not possible. It might be possible to surpass his peak level in certain areas like Maradona who became an even better playmaker, for example. Ronaldo certainly has not done that though.

Ronaldo is a complete goalscorer in that he can score a variety of different goals (ie left foot, header, freekicks, outside the box from different angles etc) but he is not the most complete attacker. Messi certainly has more to his all-round games and that is why he can play in the middle, out-wide and also drop deep. When there is little space Ronaldo suffers much more than messi does and is also more dependant on service from others than messi is.

If you ignore all the other attacking attributes, such as ariel ability, heading, strength, althetics, long range shoot, freekicks, determination, off ball movement etc then you might have a point there.

And I am not suggesting Ronaldo is a better player in any sense, he isn't if compare with Pele or Messi, but he is one of the most complete attacker, if not the most, in view of wide sets of attacking attributes possessed. Whether you rate playmaking and dribbling higher than heading and althetics etc is another matter though and is not the point I am trying to raise here.
 
If you ignore all the other attacking attributes, such as ariel ability, heading, strength, althetics, long range shoot, freekicks, determination, off ball movement etc then you might have a point there.

And I am not suggesting Ronaldo is a better player in any sense, he isn't if compare with Pele or Messi, but he is one of the most complete attacker, if not the most, in view of wide sets of attacking attributes possessed. Whether you rate playmaking and dribbling higher than heading and althetics etc is another matter though and is not the point I am trying to raise here.
This all fits what I said before, that he is a complete goalscorer but not a complete footballer (ie with the ability to play-make or play in the middle or to be able to drop deep and influence the game). But not many are tbf to him. His build-up play is underrated but it still doesn't compare to the likes of messi, pele, maradona, cruyff etc. And in a way that is a testament to him. It is only when compared to excellent players like them that his all-round game comes into question. He can still make things happen himself and dribble past players when he wants to, but he does not make things happen by himself as much as those guys do. He is an excellent player and the second best of his generation and deservedly a two time balon dor winner and if the balon dor was handed out in may he would have won it. There is a chance he may miss out on it due to injury this season but I am sure due to him playing his part in Madrid winning the cup and CL and him breaking the CL goal record he still has to be the favourite to win it and nobody could begrudge him of that.
 
Just posted this on his fb page.FFS Cristiano, happens every season
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This all fits what I said before, that he is a complete goalscorer but not a complete footballer (ie with the ability to play-make or play in the middle or to be able to drop deep and influence the game). But not many are tbf to him. His build-up play is underrated but it still doesn't compare to the likes of messi, pele, maradona, cruyff etc. And in a way that is a testament to him. It is only when compared to excellent players like them that his all-round game comes into question. He can still make things happen himself and dribble past players when he wants to, but he does not make things happen by himself as much as those guys do. He is an excellent player and the second best of his generation and deservedly a two time balon dor winner and if the balon dor was handed out in may he would have won it. There is a chance he may miss out on it due to injury this season but I am sure due to him playing his part in Madrid winning the cup and CL and him breaking the CL goal record he still has to be the favourite to win it and nobody could begrudge him of that.

Agree to an extent, but he shouldn't have won the Ballon d'Or last year. Messi was miles better from Jan-March, if ever there were a player to 'single handedly' win a Liga title in its history then that was the year, went on a ridiculous goal scoring run that'll probably never be matched. He was then better for the first month and a half of the following season before injuries got the better of him again. Then you have to consider what Ribery did with Bayern that same year.

When the UEFA award was handed out Ronaldo managed just 3 votes, whilst Ribery won it at a canter. Skip a couple months forwards and a clinical performance from Ronaldo against Sweden, the Ballon d'Or votes re-opened and he ended up winning it just ahead of Messi. It made no sense whatsoever.

Complete goal scorer, not complete player, and that's why i rate Henry ahead of him. Ronaldinho's peak was better than Ronaldo's too, but because he spunked all that talent away before he was even 27 he loses out on longevity and consistency.
 
Agree to an extent, but he shouldn't have won the Ballon d'Or last year. Messi was miles better from Jan-March, if ever there were a player to 'single handedly' win a Liga title in its history then that was the year, went on a ridiculous goal scoring run that'll probably never be matched. He was then better for the first month and a half of the following season before injuries got the better of him again. Then you have to consider what Ribery did with Bayern that same year.

When the UEFA award was handed out Ronaldo managed just 3 votes, whilst Ribery won it at a canter. Skip a couple months forwards and a clinical performance from Ronaldo against Sweden, the Ballon d'Or votes re-opened and he ended up winning it just ahead of Messi. It made no sense whatsoever.

Complete goal scorer, not complete player, and that's why i rate Henry ahead of him. Ronaldinho's peak was better than Ronaldo's too, but because he spunked all that talent away before he was even 27 he loses out on longevity and consistency.
Im not sure of the exact stats but Ronaldo was on a great goalscoring run at that time and he also was decisive in the semis of the cup vs barca (much more so than messi) and he was also decisive vs united in the CL. There was no way messi was miles better, you have to stop talking in absolutes. Messi was poor vs Milan in the first leg but excellent in the second. That year Ronaldo was also the top scorer in the CL (12/13 season against better opposition than messi such as city, united, Dortmund twice) also and in October and November scored lot of goals also and then got injured and missed December. For my money Ronaldo had the better 2013 and was more decisive in much more big games than messi was. Big games have to count for a lot imo. He also scored in the CL vs juventus in both legs which is another big game and they were good vs Madrid over the two legs although in the end suffered do to not putting in the performances against the lesser teams but with the players they have they are a formidable team. Messi was unbelievably inspiring vs psg when he came on injured and raised his team in a talismanic way, but I do not think psg compare to Barcelona or united and off the top of my head that along with Milan were the only real big games he was decisive in. Overall Ronaldo had 60 something goals to messi' 40 something and I think assists were similar and that with Ronaldo being top scorer in the CL and being decisive in more big games than messi that year made him a wothy winner.

I agree that Ronaldinho at his peak was better than Ronaldo but in the end has been surpassed by ronaldos consistency, hunger and better attitude. As for henry, I do not agree. Ronaldo has been more decisive for longer and while perhaps not as good a passer as henry, trumps him in so much other areas and in addition to ronaldos consistency, decisiveness in big games as well as a higher top level puts him ahead. You are very much alone in that opinion apart from maybe a few gunners. There is no way henry will be remembered to be as good or as historic a player Ronaldo is, even though henry was an absolutely fantastic player. ronaldos performances in Europe easily trump henrys and he has done it against a Barcelona teams and Bayern munich teams better than any team henry has come up against. Ronaldo is not even and out striker (he is more a wing forward) and yet has scored more than henry. He will simply not be considered to be as good a player as him by many people. If I recall correctly henry was not even considered to be the best player of his time (apart from maybe people in england and sky sports ;)) and if he ever was it was more because the other best players were not at their peak level rather than him surpassing them. Ronaldo was the best outright in 2008 and has had to compete with messi who is greater than anyone henry has had to compete with.
 
To the people saying that pace and power are his best attributes - do you really believe that? His technique and guile are far more central to his game. At Madrid, he's shown a lot of intelligent passing and he's a much better crosser of the ball than he ever was here. His ability to kick the ball from one place to another is only getting better.

He's shown that he can adapt his game to new roles a few times - out and out winger, goal-scoring winger, more goal-scorer than winger, and even more goalscorer than winger. He'll end up a centre forward, and the reason we can use the phrase "he'll end up" when he's 29, is that he's a beast physically. He's 29, and this is the first time anyone has thought about him and injuries at all - mostly over the knee he nurtured over the world cup. The fecker has barely been injured up to this point, and if that isn't a sign that he'll go on until his mid-thirties, then I don't know what is.

If the ball falls to him in the box, he'll probably score. The closest thing we've seen to that in world football is Alan Shearer, and how long did he go on? Ronanldo's all-round game will be of more benefit for longer than that, and if he was managed correctly - the way we expect RVP to be managed, say - then he could go on a while yet.

We won't get him though, so it's fine to dream.
 
Cristiano Ronaldo wants staggering £500,000-a-week to join Manchester United or Chelsea from Real Madrid next summer
  • Cristiano Ronaldo could leave Real Madrid at the end of the season
  • Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao are on huge wages at Manchester United - both earning more than £300,000-a-week
  • Jose Mourinho's links with Jorge Mendes could sway it Chelsea's way

Cristiano Ronaldo will demand a ground-breaking £500,000-a-week to join either Chelsea or Manchester United next summer.

Real Madrid star Ronaldo last week confirmed a story Football Grapevine broke 18 months ago that he was on the verge of re-joining United in the summer of 2013.

That deal was scuppered by the departure of Sir Alex Ferguson and the fact that United were not prepared to pay Ronaldo what he wanted and eventually got on a new deal with Real Madrid which is in the region of £350,000-a-week.

Since then, United have given Wayne Rooney a £300,000-a-week contract and last week signed Ramadal Falcao on a deal which will earn the Colombian £390,000-a-week.

Falcao’s deal was sealed by super-agent Jorge Mendes, who is also Ronaldo’s agent.

That United's American owners the Glazers have been prepared to loosen the purse strings to such an extent has encouraged Ronaldo to consider a return back to the Barclays Premier League.

Indeed, Ronaldo last week hinted that he could leave Real Madrid next summer. And he would be ready to move back to Old Trafford which was on the brink of happening in summer 2013 but the deal collapsed over the players wage demands.

The new policy at United has now changed the financial dynamic.

But, given the links Mendes has with Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho and owner Roman Abramovich, Ronaldo could also be tempted to a move to the west London club.




Can't see Ronaldo wanting to work under Mourinho again after what he said recently about him, plus also playing for one of our hated rivals within England, but who knows.

One a side note has anyone else seen how Falcaos wages change with every story? It's like they're just trying to make it look worse than it is..

I've seen:

£140,000-a-week
Then
£230,000-a-week
Then
£280,000-a-week
Then
£300,000-a-week
Then
£350,000-a-week
Now
£390,000-a-week
...Which fecking one is it
 
That story is bollocks. But the Mendes link would be in our favour and not Chelsea's.
 
We've gotta stop wasting money on this player, buy someone else for a change, he just hasn't turned up for us.
 
500k a week with Chelsea in the mix, then MOTD showed a back page from some other fish & chip wrapper that said he may go to City, so basically there is going to be a full year of Ronaldo transfer speculation bullshit because there definitely seems to be a feeling he wants to leave Real for real this time. I'll stick my neck on the line and say if he returns to the PL it will be to us, no one else.
 
Gutted that we could of got him if SAF didn't retire. In fact SAF retiring really fecked us over in many ways, not his fault though, he earnt his retirement.
 
It wouldn't be 500kpw but i'd pay it for him, he's a goal machine and he will still be even in his 30's imo.
Just get rid of some more of the deadwood that are stealing a living here like Ashley fecking Young on 120kpw for example.
 
He aint going to go to Chelsea now is he.

As long as we're actually in for him and give him a reasonable offer his feelings for this club should be enough for him to choose us over any other suitor. Supposing the comments he's made in the media are genuine ofc, but I don't see why they wouldn't.
 
One a side note has anyone else seen how Falcaos wages change with every story? It's like they're just trying to make it look worse than it is..

I've seen:

£140,000-a-week
Then
£230,000-a-week
Then
£280,000-a-week
Then
£300,000-a-week
Then
£350,000-a-week
Now
£390,000-a-week
...Which fecking one is it

Woodward really needs to get a proper hold of our damn finances - the rate Falcao's wages are increasing we'll be bankrupt by Xmas.

Oh, and I have no belief that Ronaldo is looking to leave Real.
 
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