Hang on, no. Because I can't see fans buying shirts specifically to have their fav player's name printed on. Fans buy shirts and then decide which name to have printed on the back of them... and that's assuming the majority actually bother with numbers and names. So...no, I doubt. I also don't think fans buy extra shirts because their club's made a marquee signing.
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Hang on, no. Because I can't see fans buying shirts specifically to have their fav player's name printed on. Fans buy shirts and then decide which name to have printed on the back of them... and that's assuming the majority actually bother with numbers and names. So...no, I doubt. I also don't think fans buy extra shirts because their club's made a marquee signing.
The question is at what price is Ronaldo, break even-NPV purely from a purely commercial perspective (ignoring contributions on-field and salary).
I'm pretty sure we don't make money on shirt sales anymore, Nike give us a lump sum every year instead. So it would actually make Nike 40 mill
Of course with the way I understand our deal to work with Nike, selling a bunch more shirts would not really help us. Nike would benefit, but not the club so much.
He needs a Psychologist
It's hilarious to see people talk about how others should feel or control their emotions.
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How true is this? Surely all the players mentioned in the list cannot be earning more than Ronaldo? Makes no sense.
How true is this? Surely all the players mentioned in the list cannot be earning more than Ronaldo? Makes no sense.
Is Rooney really the third best paid player in the world?
Rooney isnt earning 13.8m after tax. So that is clearly bs
What's the required rate of return?
More importantly, who the hell is Conca?
How come Messi isn't that sad?
That list looks could have been pulled out of anyone's arse.
This is the recent Forbes list. Granted, it takes into account sponsorship. However, playing for a club like Madrid increases sponsorship potential.
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlh45eel/worlds-highest-paid-soccer-players/#gallerycontent
City look to be taking FFP seriously, if they are, there is no way on earth that they can afford this transfer.
He's a treequartista.
hang on...
how come we didn't offer Ronaldo the kind of money we are now paying Rooney???
anyone else think he may have stayed here if the grown ups had offered him that kind of cash?
how come we didn't offer Ronaldo the kind of money we are now paying Rooney???
anyone else think he may have stayed here if the grown ups had offered him that kind of cash?
Been told its from Marca. Not a reliable source so i asked here.
No, he wanted to go to RM.
Do you think they wouldn't have offered that money if they knew he would have stayed then?
No chance in hell Rooney is on more than Toure, or probably Aguero. And during the golfing holiday last season, didn't some senior figure at City say that Tevez was the best paid player at the "club"? Yet he's not even on the list.
Maybe if they are taking into account all income, like sponsorships and endorsements might that be more accurate, but then Ronaldo would be way up the list.
Sure... its easier to follow your dream when they quadruple your wages.
I'm sorry, but I recall the stand took against giving Ronaldo a raise back at the end of 2007/08 when he was the best player in the world. I wonder if through the virtue of hindsight that was a very short-sighted stance.
I don't get why we decided to break the bank to keep Rooney happy, when we clearly SHOULD have done it years earlier have the chance to keep Ronaldo at the club.
Now i understand tax rates and the "beckham" law don't make this such a simple comparison... but for FFS Finding out that we've paid that much too Rooney after we've let Ronaldo go is like finding out the fittest bird back in school was into you and you never went far enough to find out how much
See this thread.
Ronaldo wanted to go. Us giving him a hefty pay rise wouldn't have made him change his mind.
I think we didn't offer it because it was clear that he would leave sooner than later and we would just prolong the saga even longer. Once Ronnie had gone we had to do pretty much all we could to hang onto Rooney. Imagine if we lost both...
However even with Ronaldo gone we at least had a star player left in Rooney. At the end of the day, regardless of value we got a world record fee for a brilliant player who didn't want to be here. Rooney on the other hand had his concerns but I genuinely believe he really wanted to stay
However even with Ronaldo gone we at least had a star player left in Rooney. At the end of the day, regardless of value we got a world record fee for a brilliant player who didn't want to be here. Rooney on the other hand had his concerns but I genuinely believe he really wanted to stay
if ronnie were to stay long term, like feck SAF would've caved to rooney. he would've told wayne to do one. NFQAT
That said, if ronnie wants back, if you shifted wayne we could easily accomodate his transfer fee and wages.
That is, if we are a football club first and foremost.
All this speculation and discussion is academic. I have it on excellent authority (one of the guys on the maintenance gang at work) that he's going to Liverpool!
Apparently John Henry is prepared to invest in the future of the club and he's mega, mega rich so that's the finances sorted and my shirt-wearing (yes, even to work) rabid red colleague is adamant that Ronaldo will only go to a club with real pedigree which rules out Chelsea and City (fair enough, that, I suppose...), Zenith St. Petersburg and Paris St. Germain so all told, perhaps this will be their year after all.
Needless to say he declined my offer of a little wager on it........
Apparently John Henry is prepared to invest in the future of the club and he's mega, mega rich so that's the finances sorted and my shirt-wearing (yes, even to work) rabid red colleague is adamant that Ronaldo will only go to a club with real pedigree which rules out Chelsea and City (fair enough, that, I suppose...), Zenith St. Petersburg and Paris St. Germain so all told, perhaps this will be their year after all.
Needless to say he declined my offer of a little wager on it........
He's just posted on facebook.
He's such an attention whore
Yup, posted that on twitter.
Will all be quiet when he signs a new contract.
Chinese or the Middle East clubs might offer than kind of loot. They did offer Nicky Butt 200k per week.
Nicky Butt. Let that settle in.
Ronaldo won't leave Europe at the age of 27 or 28 when he's at his best. He still has 4 or 5 years left at the top, then he might head to the US like Beckham did or indeed go to China/Middle East. There's no chance he'll go to Shanghai or Al-Rayyan when he's 28.
The Forbes pay figures attempt to include sponsorships and endorsements, the Marca figures don't.
However comparing player salaries is notoriously difficult due to the treatment of image rights, bonuses and tax schemes - even leaving aside the actual question of where the press got the info from.
As far as I can tell they're quoting Ronaldo's and Messi's pay after tax, including bonuses, and without image rights payments. The Conca, Eto'o and Zlatan figures look to be structured the same. For Rooney I think they've either quoted his gross pay or his net pay plus image rights. I don't know about the Chelsea / City players.
So what can Madrid do without losing their Beckham Law tax advantage? Probably something on the marketing/image rights side. At the moment they get 50% of Ronaldo's new overseas earnings (so yes, they got paid for the Armani underwear ads) and Ronaldo has actually accepted very few contracts maybe partly as a result. Of course a new marketing deal might not satisfy the pecking order / bragging rights part of the equation.
If it is all/mostly about money of course.
Which I see Ronaldo has now denied.
However comparing player salaries is notoriously difficult due to the treatment of image rights, bonuses and tax schemes - even leaving aside the actual question of where the press got the info from.
As far as I can tell they're quoting Ronaldo's and Messi's pay after tax, including bonuses, and without image rights payments. The Conca, Eto'o and Zlatan figures look to be structured the same. For Rooney I think they've either quoted his gross pay or his net pay plus image rights. I don't know about the Chelsea / City players.
So what can Madrid do without losing their Beckham Law tax advantage? Probably something on the marketing/image rights side. At the moment they get 50% of Ronaldo's new overseas earnings (so yes, they got paid for the Armani underwear ads) and Ronaldo has actually accepted very few contracts maybe partly as a result. Of course a new marketing deal might not satisfy the pecking order / bragging rights part of the equation.
If it is all/mostly about money of course.
Which I see Ronaldo has now denied.
what he has posted is true though. even if he is sad or stroppy, he won't let it affect on the pitch matters as it matters way too much to him.
I would think that a lot more Barcelona players were on that list. Imagine a contract with X% payrise for winning a trophy. Well, multiply that by a hell of a lot of trophies. Barcelona must be fecked when you think about it. And cash bonuses.
I agree. I genuinely believe that Ronaldo missed Man Utd. Not for the money but for the love. The guy does thrive on attention and affection and he has never had anything close to the 90 minutes of "Viva Ronaldo" that rung out away at Roma at Real Madrid.
After the wink, after the declaration of slavery all Ronnie got at Old Trafford is love and adoration. But at Madrid 60 goals in a season isn't enough to stave off the boos and waving the white hankies.
I reckon Gary Neville was right: Ronaldo thought Real Madrid would be just like Man Utd, but closer to Portugal, but he's learned the hard way that the cow in the other guy's field ain't so tasty close up.
MARCA.COM | Reasons for his sadness
The truth about Ronaldo
Apparently, the deal was that he would sign back with MUFC this summer, but Madrid bailed on that agreement. He was led to believe that talks were ongoing with MUFC, but with the end of the transfer window he realized it was all smoke and mirrors.
It would earn all those Asian knock off shirt factories a mint though!
Shirt sales are meaningless. We've been down this road before. It's as though a few fans get gity thinking they've found a loop hole in club financials whereby we could make a lot more money than the club thinks it can.
Break Even = 0%
You do realise that Ronnie had his contract revised almost every year during his stay at Utd?
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