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http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...at-manchester-united-as-reason-for-cristiano-
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Cristiano Ronaldo
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Just a few months back he wanted a contract for life.
This is likely to be just another avenue he and his agent are employing for a pay rise.
This is likely to be just another avenue he and his agent are employing for a pay rise.
I genuinely cannot see him going to Manchester City.
He gets his contract renewed and all will be happy. He won't come back, ever. Let's move on.
If his problem is with lack of love then he should return to Sporting.
has he been seen in Alderley Edge yet?
Assuming everyone is taking FFP seriously, hes out of reach for everyone.
Neither city or chelsea could realistically spend 100 million on the player, and half a million a week on his wages if they even want to pretend they are trying to conform to ffp.
Only Real Barca and us have the turnover to facilitate that sort of wage in the FFP confines, and none of us could afford the transfer fee, not even Real could buy him at that figure now.
Thats not to say the sheikh or abramovich wouldnt say feck it here's 100 million, but it would be a two fingered salute to Platini if they did , and it would either mean no Champions League in a year or so for the one that did it, or FFP dead in the water.
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It might sound facetious but City are too small a club for him.
They have next to no worldwide exposure, except perhaps in the Middle East.
I really don't think a move like that would appeal to him.
Chelsea are a slightly different matter as they do have some limited worldwide appeal and exposure.
They have next to no worldwide exposure, except perhaps in the Middle East.
I really don't think a move like that would appeal to him.
Chelsea are a slightly different matter as they do have some limited worldwide appeal and exposure.
Mourinho and Ronadlo to United in 2013 eh?
Maybe we could rent him, Rent-a-Ronnie.
I think if he left then the only real available club would be PSG. I think he has enough respect despite what people say about him to not sign for City/Chelsea. United wouldn't be able to afford what he would want i don't think though, let alone what his transfer fee would be.
PSG might not be setting the world alight right now but they're going through what City did at the start of their 'project', it will surely pick up.
PSG might not be setting the world alight right now but they're going through what City did at the start of their 'project', it will surely pick up.
I doubt Ronaldo would move to a club like PSG. He'd only want to join a big club. And i think Mou will settle the differences, and then after some days, everything will be back to normal, and Ronaldo will stay there.
PSG will become big like City are becoming i think. It does seem like a 'Rooney' situation though.
I actually think that IF he became available, and SAF asked the owners to make it happen, they would seriously consider it and at least make make a strong play for him.
It would be an outrageous outlay, but with merchandising and advertising and potential success, the transfer would pay for itself in a couple of years and a player like Ronaldo would be more of an investment.
I dare say RM have made their 80 mill back by now, on shirt sales alone.
But then what you have to think about is other members of the squad grumbling for a pay rise. I'm sure many of them would be wanting to be rewarded. Not as high as what Ronaldo would be on but definitely a significant amount which when you balanced it out, wouldn't be worth it.
you know ffp allows clubs to run at 60% wage/turnover ratio yeah?
we're at 46% percent right now. we could easily spunk 20-25 million a year extra on wages and be comfortable.
Never said you couldn't do it. Just that it's not the way United work is it? According to the media you've missed out on players and lost players over wage issues. Not because you can't pay them, just because you're not willing to. As much as i agree with that policy, in this day and age with clubs like City/PSG/Chelsea, you have to sometimes. Would SAF do so? Not sure.
Players will always want more money, Ronaldo or not, at the end of the day I think most of them would realise that signing one the two best players in the world, they are going to be on bigger wages than everyone else, the only person who could even ask to match those sort of wages is Rooney and he already did.
Front four of Welbeck, Rooney, Ronaldo and Nani. I'd call that cheating on FM
I think a front four of Ronaldo, Van Persie, Kagawa and Nani is a far better scenario. Although I'd like Welbeck in there at some point. Rooney has dropped down my list somewhat at the moment.
If FFP is applied properly then transfer fees will come down. Real Madrid can't demand £100m in a deflated market.
Depends on the player. The club aren't willing to pay unproven players ridiculous sums. We paid what Rooney and Van Persie wanted. I think Fergie would do just about anything within his power if he had a real chance of getting Ronaldo back.
Ronaldo will go to City.. Money Talks..
It made sense for other clubs without our fan base to make a marquee signing and translate that into shirts sales.
When Beckham or Ronaldo left it's not like we suffered in commercial earnings. In fact we made more. One star leave another will replace him. And that's not even going into how our deal is structured with Nike.
If United is into signing players for selling shirts we would had signed Nakata. Nakata is probably the top 5 richest footballer ever. His website alone generate more money than what our top players are paid.
It's a strange one this, part of me thinks that it's all part of a plan to get a better contract offer from Real, but then what is throwing me is that if this was the case, then surely it would have been done when the transfer window was open to see what clubs come in for him? Which in turn would force Real's hand.
Regarding United buying back Ronaldo. IMO this will never happen, I know Fergie has gone on record and said that if a special player comes available then he would be speaking to the Glazers, etc. But Jeez, the money involved in bringing Ronaldo back to the club would be outrageous, and tbh we could buy 2 world class midfielders and still have cash left over.
So the question is, would you all be willing to spunk that much on one player when we could build a better team and buy more players for the same cash? Would Ronaldo offer us anymore in terms of a goal threat than RvP and Rooney can give together? I'm not sure tbh, I know he is a fecking great player, but for the amount of money it would cost then I'm not sure it would be worth it?
Regarding United buying back Ronaldo. IMO this will never happen, I know Fergie has gone on record and said that if a special player comes available then he would be speaking to the Glazers, etc. But Jeez, the money involved in bringing Ronaldo back to the club would be outrageous, and tbh we could buy 2 world class midfielders and still have cash left over.
So the question is, would you all be willing to spunk that much on one player when we could build a better team and buy more players for the same cash? Would Ronaldo offer us anymore in terms of a goal threat than RvP and Rooney can give together? I'm not sure tbh, I know he is a fecking great player, but for the amount of money it would cost then I'm not sure it would be worth it?
I don't think it's a stunt to get more money from Real, again. When you're on as much as he is you can't possibly have your salary raised by more than around 20%. Real won't pay him €20m a year, no one will. It's going to be a difference between €11m a year and €13m a year or something and you wouldn't like to have a bad press like he's going to just for that alone. It might be a factor but it won't be the only reason for him speaking the way he has.
'Real Madrid's £35m dilemma - Renewing Cristiano Ronaldo's contract will cost the Spanish side a fortune in taxes':
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277...drids-35m-dilemma-renewing-cristiano-ronaldos
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277...drids-35m-dilemma-renewing-cristiano-ronaldos
There's one major difference between them, though. PSG are in the French league, City in PL. Whatever PSG do, they won't challenge in ("one of") the greatest league(s) in the world.
If this is purely (or even mostly) about a contract issue, I can't believe that Mendes would have encouraged it. It's a bad time to let a demand for more money go public. The Spanish economy is in bad shape, high unemployment, employers paying late, people being forced to accept pay cuts. It makes Ronaldo look dreadful, and gives the press a bandwagon to play with, to the point where the fans may be annoyed if his contract gets renewed.
It's deeply embarrassing for Madrid, and the rest of La Liga are treating Madrid and Ronaldo as a joke. There's not going to be much love coming Ronaldo's way from the Madrid fans, and the scrutiny on Ronaldo and his relationship with the Madrid players (and even Messi and Iniesta) is going to become even more intense.
If Ronaldo managed to work himself up badly enough that he thought it would be a good tactic then he's wrong, it's a PR nightmare. During the summer Madrid have done a whole series of new contracts - quietly - and that's almost certainly how Mendes would have played it.
Personally I do think for whatever reason Ronaldo temporarily lost the plot (and given the pressure he's under, maybe the surprise is that it didn't happen sooner) and that he, Mendes and the club are now stuck with damage limitation at best. I doubt Ronaldo even wants to leave, particularly given how few places there are that he can go.
Incidentally, Barcelona have decided to get the rumours flowing around a new, improved contract for Messi - on the basis that the best deserves to always be the best paid (he's already better paid than Ronaldo). Just a little more fuel for the fire.
It's deeply embarrassing for Madrid, and the rest of La Liga are treating Madrid and Ronaldo as a joke. There's not going to be much love coming Ronaldo's way from the Madrid fans, and the scrutiny on Ronaldo and his relationship with the Madrid players (and even Messi and Iniesta) is going to become even more intense.
If Ronaldo managed to work himself up badly enough that he thought it would be a good tactic then he's wrong, it's a PR nightmare. During the summer Madrid have done a whole series of new contracts - quietly - and that's almost certainly how Mendes would have played it.
Personally I do think for whatever reason Ronaldo temporarily lost the plot (and given the pressure he's under, maybe the surprise is that it didn't happen sooner) and that he, Mendes and the club are now stuck with damage limitation at best. I doubt Ronaldo even wants to leave, particularly given how few places there are that he can go.
Incidentally, Barcelona have decided to get the rumours flowing around a new, improved contract for Messi - on the basis that the best deserves to always be the best paid (he's already better paid than Ronaldo). Just a little more fuel for the fire.
There is a bit of talk out there on the internet about it having to do with Ronnie not wanting to play as it is almost the anniversary of his father's death and he wanted to go spend time with his family. While I understand that, the one thing that throws me about this is that it is the 7th anniversary of his fathers death and I do not remember this being an issue for him before. Surely this is not the first time since then he has had a game right before or right after the anniversary so why suddenly would it become a big issue now?
Or am I just forgetting that in the past he took some time off around this time of year?
Or am I just forgetting that in the past he took some time off around this time of year?
That's not the point I was making at all, next to us and Barcelona, RM are next most marketable team on earth, they might even be higher, I'm not sure but the 80mill they shelled out on Ronaldo was recouped fairly quickly.
Selling a million shirts would net you 40 mill.....do you think it's imposible to sell a million shirts with Ronaldo printed on the back, if he re-signed for us? I don't and that's just shirts.
Without sounding bad, does any normal person get time off when it is the anniversary of the death of a loved one?
I hope he bloody stays.
Depends where you work, I suppose. I can go to HR now and ask for a few days special leave due to family/personal reasons, it would more than likely be granted.
Not sure, maybe in the past he has not been able to and felt that he should now. Maybe other things came up to remind him of his Father and he needed to be with his family. Its hard cos, some years I cope well with my Mothers death others I do not and she has passed 17 years now.
Which would most likely be unpaid or taken from holidays
Eitherway, if that is the reason he is still behaving like as Eamon would say a "Puffball"
I love Ronnie and would have him back in a heartbeat, but let's not kid ourselves, he's much more likely to go to City than United. They will do everything in their power to get him if he's available, and we all know Ronaldo likes his money. As much as I want to believe he'd insist on only returning to us, I just don't see it happening. I'd have City favourites by a distance if he's sold.
Nope, it's 'special leave A' which is neither unpaid or taken out of your anual leave, you could really only do it once a year though, then you'd revert down to special leave B or C, which is taken out of leave/unpaid respectively.
Interesting. It didn't occur to me that so-called 'contract renewal' is effectively a new contract.
So if Real want to pay Ronnie an extra 4m pounds, it'll cost them 12m. But they can hardly expect him to see out his contract on his present wages, while lesser players are earning more. Bit of a dilemma that.
If he is leaving Madrid, big if, only them and PSG with perhaps and Chelsea and the Russians could possibly afford him.
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