Cristiano Ronaldo

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Antisocial said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Ronaldo takes part in Rio's testimonial - I remember there was an story in some rag last summer talking about Rio getting a testimonial (well before that was confirmed a couple of weeks ago) which linked Ronaldo with taking part, though I can't remember if it was just that Rio wanted to invite him or if there had already been talks between them.
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I would be surprised, I can't imagine Real letting their star player play in a testimonial, not least back at Old Trafford with the chance to wear the United shirt again.
 
To this point I still think Ronaldo's using this situation to help him in his Madrid situation (be it for the contract or appreciation (or lack there of))...however to completely deny us having a chance of getting him back is premature, as there is a realistic chance of him signing for United again.

I think it's safe to assume that him being underappreciated at Madrid is playing a part in all of this, especialy since very few players have ever been show as much as love as he was shown by United fans. He's going to get paid loads eitherway, I guess it's just a matter of prioritizing different aspects and what he deems to be more important.
 
OGkush said:
To this point I still think Ronaldo's using this situation to help him in his Madrid situation (be it for the contract or appreciation (or lack there of))...however to completely deny us having a chance of getting him back is premature, as there is a realistic chance of him signing for United again.

I think it's safe to assume that him being underappreciated at Madrid is playing a part in all of this, especialy since very few players have ever been show as much as love as he was shown by United fans. He's going to get paid loads eitherway, I guess it's just a matter of prioritizing different aspects and what he deems to be more important.
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There's too much pessimism over this.

People are quick to simply assume he's after a renewed contract on bigger money and that may very well be the case.

Its not impossible though that he does want to come back. He had great years at United and still evidently cares a lot about the club. He left for Real Madrid assuming the grass would be greener and he's found out it isnt. He's older, wiser and coming into his peak years, his club have a new manager on the way and the PL this season looks like being very competative and possibly the most entertaining of the big leagues what with all the managerial upheaval. You can see the attraction of coming back to a club where he's loved, being the undisputed number one player and where he'll still earn huge sums of money and be challenging for honours. In his head he probably thinks he can come back and win titles on his own.

Whether the club could make any deal happen if he did want to come back is questionable, but he doesnt seem happy at Madrid and given his age, if he wants another big move it has to be soon.

Incidentally, Graham Hunter (relatively believeable on spanish football matters) supposedly said Ronaldo had been critical of Real Madrid, suggesting United were "much better organised" and also that it was common knowledge that he's often calling his ex-teammates and even people he worked with at Carrington trying to see what's going on.
 
RedRover said:
There's too much pessimism over this.

People are quick to simply assume he's after a renewed contract on bigger money and that may very well be the case.

Its not impossible though that he does want to come back. He had great years at United and still evidently cares a lot about the club. He left for Real Madrid assuming the grass would be greener and he's found out it isnt. He's older, wiser and coming into his peak years, his club have a new manager on the way and the PL this season looks like being very competative and possibly the most entertaining of the big leagues what with all the managerial upheaval. You can see the attraction of coming back to a club where he's loved, being the undisputed number one player and where he'll still earn huge sums of money and be challenging for honours. In his head he probably thinks he can come back and win titles on his own.

Whether the club could make any deal happen if he did want to come back is questionable, but he doesnt seem happy at Madrid and given his age, if he wants another big move it has to be soon.

Incidentally, Graham Hunter (relatively believeable on spanish football matters) supposedly said Ronaldo had been critical of Real Madrid, suggesting United were "much better organised" and also that it was common knowledge that he's often calling his ex-teammates and even people he worked with at Carrington trying to see what's going on.
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He's got all that at Madrid though. Why swap it for slightly less cash and worse weather?
 
Shane88 said:
He's got all that at Madrid though. Why swap it for slightly less cash and worse weather?
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See the myriad of reasons in my post above. He clearly moved to Madrid because he though at the time it was the right move, but its entirely possible he considers it hasnt worked out for him as he would have liked - especially in terms of on pitch success.

It was easy for him to assume that all clubs were set up and ran like United, and that he'd love it at Madrid just as much. Perhaps since leaving he's realised how happy he was at United in the first instance? I've left jobs in the past and only realised what I'd left when I was in my new place and pissed of with it all.

He's had his adventure in Madrid and the club is a circus. Maybe he feels its time to move on and surely, if so, he'd enjoy the challenge of coming back to the PL where things are much simpler with press and club politics - and potentially where the eyes of the world will be next year given how competative its likely to be.

As for being the main man the club are trying to bring in "ronaldo mark II" for a world record fee - so that's doubtful.
 
I'm not going to comment on the speculation but I've always hoped to see him back in a United shirt so I hope he does come back if not this season at some point in the future.
 
Dunno, I don't think he'll give up on Madrid, they're his dream team and all that. He hasn't won a lot there compared to what he won at United (Leagues, domestic cups, Champions League, Ballon d'Or) but he seems like a fairly determined guy to me so I can't see him walking away with just a couple of trophies and an amazing scoring record.
 
The odds are that he will negotiate a better contract at Madrid but you never know. The football world is rather silly.
 
Not time to move this back to the transfer forum?
 
RedRover has put it well. Ronaldo has plenty of sound reasons to leave Madrid for Manchester, despite the weather. My take is simply that Ronaldo knows he will always be short of Messi and Real will always be short of Barcelona, at least for the next 5-6 and maybe 10 years. If Ronaldo wants to win another Champions League trophy and have any hope of a world POY trophy, he's better off in Manchester than in Madrid.

But I am worried about the truly insane cash the French clubs appear to be willing to give him. We shall see.
 
It's clear we need to do a 'Madrid' on Madrid. And by that, I mean having Ed Woodward holding press conferences to talk about how United is the biggest club in the world and Ronaldo as the best player should be playing here. He'll then anoint the Manchester Evening News as the club's mouthpiece and have them run endlessly speculative articles on ''project Ronaldo'. Finally, Mendes (in repayment for the Bebe transfer) convinces his client to come out and say it is his dream to play for United.

He'll be in a Red Shirt by August 1st.
 
Ruud10 said:
If Ronaldo wants to have any hope of a world POY trophy, he's better off in Manchester than in Madrid.
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I've read this numerous times now and still don't understand it. He'll still be inferior to Messi if he's playing in England. If the thinking is he won his only WPOY when he was at Man United, that's because Messi wasn't the player he is today. Ronaldo went up that extra level before Messi did (being older than him).

No matter where he goes unless he has an absolute monster season and wins the CL he won't win the Ballon d'Or. Would be foolish to let that have an impact on his future.
 
Reading an article a friend linked to me in an email, the article is the SUN and for the most part of course is the typical SUN transfer article, telling us Ronaldo might come, especially if Real sign Bale. But the one part that stood out for me was the article said he has 2 years left on his contract at Real, for some reason I thought it was one.
 
JustAFan said:
Reading an article a friend linked to me in an email, the article is the SUN and for the most part of course is the typical SUN transfer article, telling us Ronaldo might come, especially if Real sign Bale. But the one part that stood out for me was the article said he has 2 years left on his contract at Real, for some reason I thought it was one.
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In the past the ballon d'or had been given to players who weren't actually the best in the world. The 2001, the 1996 and the 2006 edition springs to mind. At OT Ronaldo would probably be again the protagonist of an attacking minded side whose fans adore him. He wouldnt be competing directly with Messi. If Barca fail and Manchester United succeed (with Ronaldo having a great season) then I fancy his chances in becoming the best player in the world.
 
Pink Moon said:
I've read this numerous times now and still don't understand it. He'll still be inferior to Messi if he's playing in England. If the thinking is he won his only WPOY when he was at Man United, that's because Messi wasn't the player he is today. Ronaldo went up that extra level before Messi did (being older than him).

No matter where he goes unless he has an absolute monster season and wins the CL he won't win the Ballon d'Or. Would be foolish to let that have an impact on his future.
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If he fires us to CL glory Messi won't have a chance.
 
Pink Moon said:
I've read this numerous times now and still don't understand it. He'll still be inferior to Messi if he's playing in England. If the thinking is he won his only WPOY when he was at Man United, that's because Messi wasn't the player he is today. Ronaldo went up that extra level before Messi did (being older than him).

No matter where he goes unless he has an absolute monster season and wins the CL he won't win the Ballon d'Or. Would be foolish to let that have an impact on his future.
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At Madrid he is directly competing with Messi in La Liga, and it is next to impossible him to stand out as the best player in the league when Messi is there as well. In the Premier league he would be undoubtedly the best player in the league, playing for the best team in the league and would probably still hit crazy numbers of goals. If he won the Champions league while at United, along with the Premier League, and Barca only won La Liga, with both Messi and Ronaldo being the main players, then I doubt Messi would retain his title.
Like this, even if Ronaldo won the Champions league, I doubt he'd win the Ballon d'Or because Messi would probably play better in the league and have more goals in all competitions, thus outshining him, even without the silverware.
 
I think Ronaldo got on well with everyone here, bar Ruud. Certainly seemed a more popular figure at United than at Madrid.
I've no doubt in my mind that some United officials are attempting to work on a deal for Ronaldo's return, sadly I just don't see it materialising.
 
I think the Daily Mail kind of want us to sign Ronaldo back:

Ronaldo's return? As superstar reveals he has NOT signed a new Real deal and United confident of signing him, here's 10 reasons why we want him back


Cristiano Ronaldo has moved a step closer to a Barclays Premier League return after rubbishing reports he has signed a new deal at Real Madrid.
This will only strengthen Manchester United's conviction that they can re-sign the superstar - as Sportsmail revealed last month.
It is four years since Ronaldo departed Old Trafford for the Bernabeu in a world record £80million move and Real president Florentino Perez seemed confident he could persuade the forward to stay for life, even suggesting a deal had been done.
However, Ronaldo dismissed that on his Facebook page, saying: 'All the news about my renewal with Real Madrid is false.'
So, with this in mind, can United beat French moneybags Monaco and Paris Saint-Germain and land their former star?
Here Sportsmail looks at 10 reasons we would welcome back one of the world's finest players with open arms....


World’s leading players back in the Premier League
The Premier League has some global superstars but arguably the best two players on the planet in Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are based at Spanish giants Real Madrid and Barcelona respectively.
After the collective English flop in the Champions League last term, now is the time to flex its muscles by bringing back Ronaldo and send out a message that the Premier League isn’t in decline.

He’s at his peak, too
Not only would Ronaldo be returning to the league that made him one of the world’s elite players – he would still be at his best too at the age of just 28.
It’s all very well getting the best players playing in your league but if they are over the age of 32 then it's probably best you leave them to the MLS.

Reunite deadly partnership with Rooney (providing Wayne stays)
Few saw Rooney and Ronaldo becoming a deadly duo after the latter’s infamous wink following the England’s striker’s red card at the 2006 World Cup, but the partnership helped United storm to three consecutive Premier League titles.
There wasn’t a weakness to be seen in the pair as they were just as lethal on the counter attack as they were carving up tight defences.

…and if Rooney leaves, there is always RVP
Rooney’s future is uncertain at this stage but should the striker leave, Ronaldo still has the option of playing alongside Robin van Persie.
It’s untried and not guaranteed to work but the possibility of seeing both in the same team would be one of the most exciting prospects ahead of the new campaign.


Can he play under David Moyes?
It was Sir Alex Ferguson that nurtured Ronaldo from a rough diamond often producing one step-over too many to one of the best players on the planet, but Fergie now has his feet up and his retirement slippers on.
David Moyes has been around a few years now but he hasn’t had the chance to manage a global superstar at his peak. Can the former Everton boss bring out the best of the Portuguese forward like his predecessor did?

It sets up a tasty title fight
Manchester City and Chelsea have already spent big in preparation for their assault on the Premier League title next term and United will need to respond.
Getting Ronaldo should be enough to ensure the Red Devils can battle their fiercest rivals to regain their championship – and we would love to see more than two teams battling to finish top of the Premier League.

Set-piece specials
While Gareth Bale and David Luiz dazzled us with some superb free-kicks last season, we would love to see Ronaldo try to claim the crown as the set-piece master.
Last time he was on these shores, Portsmouth and Arsenal in particular were victims of some of the finest free-kicks blasted by the right foot of the 28-year-old – leaving all those watching in awe.

Show us the skills
Back in 2003 during Ronaldo’s first Manchester United season it was a step-over… then another one… then maybe a dive if he didn’t feel like performing a third.
But after a few maturing years, the box of tricks gained more depth to a point where opposition players were often left bamboozled. It’s a simple format but we all love seeing a defender end up on his backside after being skinned by a flair player showing off.

Return of the all-rounder
In an attacking sense, does Ronaldo have any noticeable weaknesses? Possessing pace, power, a long range strike, an ability to find space and superb aerial skills, he’s close to the complete package.
Even if he has to face your side at least twice a season, enjoy the rest of his 36 games as he shows off his full arsenal to defences over the land.

Unfinished business
Ronaldo may have won it all during his time at Manchester United, but for all the personal accolades and regular trophies he enjoyed at Old Trafford it shouldn’t have ended on such a low point.
To date his last game for the current champions was the 2009 Champions League defeat by Barcelona, it’s not the way such a great player should have departed given the constant success before that night in Rome. ​
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They forgot to mention how much the fans love him here but I'll agree with all the rest.​
 
Neil Custis on MUTV's United in Press was talking about his 'Ronaldo or Bale' article in The Sun - he says he doesn't think it's a pipe-dream of Ronaldo returning, and that he thought it is 50/50 whether the move would happen or not. He said our people were just waiting for Ronaldo to make a decision about what he wants to do, and described a sequence where Bale could move to Madrid impacting Ronaldo moving. He also thinks Madrid for all their flaunting of cash would need to seriously consider Ronaldo's contract situation in terms of the selling fee.

So if you trust the opinion of Neil Custis - then enjoy :angel:
 
Kid Cunto said:
Graham Hunter has his inside information, particularly with Barcelona. He's always good for a story, but it's mainly opinion he offers rather than fact.
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Yep, although when the Fergie Quits rumours were in their infancy and no one really believed them he was really sure it wasn't just a rumour.
 
What, including all the links? ;) :D
 
BAMSOLA said:
He will be as soon as he gets what he wants and what he wants is a bigger weekly wage.
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Yeah, probably. Still - and this is more of a general question, nothing pertaining particularly to Ronaldo - don't these people check their bank balance at some point and go: "Alright, not bad at all, I'm fecking drowning in cash here, don't really need another fifty grand a week"? You know - is it absolutely impossible that a filthy rich fecker isn't motivated in each and every aspect of his professional life by...money?

An honest question. I don't know many very rich people, but I do know a handful. I'd say half of them are utter cnuts who actually do not care about anything but the bottom line, and who have very little to offer besides being able to fill their bathtubs with vintage champagne. The other half, however, are people like you and me - who care about all sorts of things besides money. I don't know - to the transfer muppet there's often a close to absolute condition in play: If you put X grand more on the table than Y you get your man to sign. It might not be that simple. Not always.

Besides, sticking to pennies and pounds, if Ronaldo does indeed insist on reclaiming his so-called image rights (forty percent, is it? That Real owns per now?) it seems like a fecked up situation for Perez. Can he afford to give Ronaldo that? FFP, Real's business model, et bloody cetera.
 
I can hear it being belted out in Old Trafford now:
"Follow us! Follow us! @MailOnline on Twitter! Follow us!"
 
Kid Cunto said:
Graham Hunter has his inside information, particularly with Barcelona. He's always good for a story, but it's mainly opinion he offers rather than fact.
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If Hunter is saying that, that's about the most reliable info we've had so far.
 
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