Cristiano Ronaldo
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I'd love to have Ronaldo back, but not for 80 million! We would be better off trying to lure Bale away for about half of it and spunk the rest on a top class midfielder.
If we end up selling Rooney for less than 25m and Nani for what I expect will be about 12m it would be disastrous business from us really, really poor squad management to put ourselves in this position.
He is English so his price will be up around the 40 mill mark.
Well then let's thank god Fergie is gone next season, eh?
Yeah thankfully
Sounds like a broken record here, but transfer fee is only part of the story. Selling the two of them would free up a good chunk of wages that can be used toward contract improvements for other squad members or buying new players. Not that I want them to leave footballing-wise, of course.
'Christian is aware that Florentino Perez, the Real Madrid president, is keen to convey his appreciation. For three years Perez made him feel less important than Kaka, Benzema, or any of the players who had signed personally. When he realized that he had to offer renewal to avoid Cristiano's departure, last fall, the player suspected he was to present it as a way of securing presidential election in July. Proud and sensitive, perhaps in need of true affection, Christiano, 28, has refused to even meet to hear what the club offers.
The silence of the player, who earns nine million euros a year in basic salary, is worrying to the Madrid hierarchy. The president does not know how to rectify the problem, find ways to be heard, ways of approaching the idol of his club. For now, the player ignores him. He says he does not want to renew. I say with as much conviction as possible that he wants to continue at Real Madrid and see out the contract which ends in June 2015.'
(El Pais)
The silence of the player, who earns nine million euros a year in basic salary, is worrying to the Madrid hierarchy. The president does not know how to rectify the problem, find ways to be heard, ways of approaching the idol of his club. For now, the player ignores him. He says he does not want to renew. I say with as much conviction as possible that he wants to continue at Real Madrid and see out the contract which ends in June 2015.'
(El Pais)
Who is this Christian they speak of?
Yeah, but football is more than just scoring goals. There are things like defending and creating chances for others that play a huge part in winning games as well. And part of Madrid's circus is the reason why he's scoring so many goals. The whole team is setup to get him at the end of almost every attack. Bayern is a better team because there's no one like Ronaldo in it. Play Ronaldo instead of Ribery at Bayern this season and you're clearly weakening the team, it's that easy.
Can Ronaldo be a different player? Probably yes, but he wasn't this year. If we call someone the best player of the season, who's waiting upfront to score but does feck all if his team is struggling to create chances or is heavily attacked through his side of the pitch all game, there's something wrong with football. It's no problem if the team wins titles, because then his goal scoring is more important than his flaws. If his team is winning nothing and is outplayed by individually weaker opponents, then he shouldn't be anywhere near the Ballon D'Or.
I remember Messi won Ballon D'or when Sneijder dragged Inter to win treble, and Holland to WC Final. And most said Messi deserved it. Or, did he?
That's not really true. Diego Milito was actually considered the main man for Inter. Which is why he won the following awards that year:
- 2010 UEFA Champions League Final: UEFA Man of the Match
- UEFA Club Forward of the Year (1): 2009–10
- UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2009–10
- Serie A Footballer of the Year (1): 2009–10
- Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year (1): 2009–10
Barca won the league that season and Messi played individually the best season of his career back then. Do you really think that's comparable to Ronaldo this year?
Well I think he did a pretty good job in Real, not only in terms of goals but in terms of winning matches single-handedly. If the team has problem it wouldn't be his.
Daily Mail now jumping on the Ronaldo to Chelsea rumours:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...se-Mourinho-wants-sign-Cristiano-Ronaldo.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...se-Mourinho-wants-sign-Cristiano-Ronaldo.html
I dont think thats the case.
The club are in a position where they have to balance competing concerns. You're not going to give a player a new contract and commit tens of millions over the course of it just so you can realise more money when you sell them.
The fact is Nani has had a very poor season. If United dont consider him good enough to offer a new deal to, why are another club going to come in and pay top dollar for him?
Likewise with Rooney. Celary a very gifted player, so why would United want to move him on? Obviously there are issues - either with his fitness or attitude, so again, why is any club going to be held to ransom over the fee?
I dont see why that would have any effect? Especially if he goes abroad.
It ain't gonna be 80m, and there's no way Bale can pried from Levy for a measly 40m. feck, Levy fleeced us for 30m for Berbatov and Berbatov is no Bale.
If we do Ronaldo, we're just about set, depending on what happens with Rooney. Let's assume that bringing in Ronaldo turns Rooney's head and the mercurial granny-banger stays. So far, so good. But what about the attacking mid? It seems to me Kagawa is more than adequate, and for me close to being absolutely sensational, as our first choice attacking mid. When given the chance this season, he looked fantastic.
Carrick
Valencia/Kagawa/Ronaldo
Rooney/van Persie
If this front six isn't strong to lift the prem trophy then we're fukked no matter what we do short of swapping squads with Bayern.
Whether Real Madrid are a better team that Bayern Munich is totally irrelevant. Individual awards go to the best player, not the best team.
Football is about more than scoring goals - but how many players score 55 goals a season? How many times has that been done in the top leagues over the years? Ronaldo does it year in and year out in recent times. He's arguably one of the greatest players ever to play the game.
The best players win games on their own. Regardless of where Real have finished this season, they wouldnt have gotten half as far without him. He's the player who scores the key goals, does something for them when they're struggling - that's real quality and its what the best players do.
Ribery may have had a good season, but your logic is totally flawed. You're telling me that Bayern are a great side, a team where nobody stands out and they're all working together - so why does Ribery deserve the Ballon D'or more than Neur, or Martinez, or Schweinsteiger - or any other player for that matter?
Ribery stands out at Bayern, as does Schweinsteiger. You can't play a record breaking season without more than one great player.
And I completely disagree that Ronaldo is the player who helps Real when they are struggling. He still waits upfront for his teammates to create something, that's his biggest flaw since Mourinho took over at Real. He does feck all, if the game isn't running well. He just hopes Özil, Alonso, di Maria make something happen so that he can score against the run of play. He's clinical, without a doubt and because of several individually brilliant players in the team working for him, he get the chance to score important goals. He's still heavily dependent on his team mates, way more than Messi for example.
I don't get how someone thinks he deserves the Ballon d'Or this season. His performances in the CL semi finals and the copa del rey final weren't great, he didn't score important goals that helped Real win something and if we only count goals, Messi is clearly ahead of him anyway.
Is anybody even debating that?
Sadly, yes.
That was the post I answered to on the previous page, when I wrote Ribery deserves it more than Ronaldo this season.
Messi has been more hot and cold during the CL knockout rounds, even less effective than Ronaldo was for those games. He didn't get his team to the Copa del Rey final, and the only big thing he's done is to score a bucket load of goals, as has Ronaldo. Based on from January onwards, I find it hard to understand how people will find Ronaldo hasn't been better so far, he's already scored 31 goals this year alone, whilst Messi has managed 11. Not only has he scored 3 times as much, but many of Ronaldo's goals have been match winners in tight games eg Real Sociedad, the goals against us, goals against Barcelona.
Since his team haven't won anything this year, this may heavily affect him for the Ballon D'Or, and Messi's only big accomplishment is the La Liga, but this year he hasn't contributed much which is something to consider. I do reckon the Bayern and Dortmund lot will be more closely examined for the award, there's going to be an interesting shortlist at the end of the year.
May be not..
I couldn't agree more. Stats are just blinding people's view on this. Of course they matter, but their context matters infinitely more. But even above that the actual performances should matter the most to determine something like "best player". Both Messi and Ronaldo are putting up insane numbers nowadays, let's face it, without hardly even trying, but for me the periods they were at their best were 2008-2011 for Messi and 2006-2008 for Ronaldo. They were more involved and more all-round in their involvement back then and the highlights of their season weren't just limited to a goals reel.
All things considered, so far I don't even think Ronaldo should make the top3 for the next Ballon d'Or.. just like I don't think Messi should have won it in 2012, hell, he deserved the 2010 more than he did this one IMO.
May be not..
Hey, I said this year he's done more than Messi, but the Bundesliga players will have a big say about Ballon D'Or! haha.
Apparently Ramon Calderon has said Ronaldo will definitely leave Madrid in the summer but not for United.
Calderón, like the vast majority of Madrid's list of presidents, is a spoofer.
The Chelsea prediction looking more likely then.
I would be gutted if he returned to the prem with either Chelsea or City.
I need a lie down. Absolute drivel
Why would he join Chelsea or City?
One of the reasons he's said to be unhappy at Madrid is due to how the club is run. That he was a lot more impressed with Manchester United's stability and protection of players.
So, why would he join either of Chelsea or City, two circuses?
One of the reasons he's said to be unhappy at Madrid is due to how the club is run. That he was a lot more impressed with Manchester United's stability and protection of players.
So, why would he join either of Chelsea or City, two circuses?
The red card from the copa final has got him a one match ban - to be served in the next Copa del Rey.
Well as disappointing as it would be, at least we'll know Ron doesn't give a shit about our club.
I doubt it will happen though - or so I'd like to believe.
I doubt it will happen though - or so I'd like to believe.
Mourinho is about to join Chelsea, after leaving Madrid partially due to losing the dressing room, including Ronaldo. Why would he rejoin Mourinho at Chelsea?
I reckon he'll stay at Madrid.
I reckon he'll stay at Madrid.
Maybe that's why he's trying to get a transfer? So that he doesn't have to serve this unjust ban?
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