Hmmm are they sure he wasn't just asking Ramos for top tips on getting a new, improved contract?
Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation
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Hmmm are they sure he wasn't just asking Ramos for top tips on getting a new, improved contract?
You are making too much sense for this crowd. They think Ronaldo is a God and will never decline.
"I go, I go"
C'mon I am not greedy.
Why stop there? Go for Dembele and Dybala as well. Sign all the players
Did Perez do his stupid interview thing or not?
You madridistas and your pride
I'm pretty sure that if Cristiano leaves it will be because Perez failed to convince him to stay and not because he thought it was the best option. If he ends up staying Perez, Ronaldo and the media will say the right things and the fans will forget it. If they don't forget it right away and Cristiano gets booed, it will be nothing new and he'll score until the fans don't mind what happened. If you sell him, Barça will win the league and a year from now Zidane will be under pressure. Perez won't risk it, he'll do what he can to keep things as they are.
Good post.
How much would Ronaldo have to drop before you could get a similar player for much less? Pretty hypothetical question but in a other 12 months I don't see him being that far ahead of the world's other top strikers. Not sufficient enough to take the gamble his signing would be.
Great post @Powderfinger.
^^^
I wonder how fans would feel if Ronaldo was indeed available (big IF) and Mourinho vetoes a move for him.
Yes, nothing from him on Ronaldo though.
It's impossible to have a discussion about this with people who are convinced he'd bang in twice the amount Ibra managed last season with little or no upgrades to the players he relies on for service.
Part of the discussion has to be that there's some risk involved here – that you don't spend that kind of money on a 32 year old without there being any kind of risk involved.
If not, it just gets silly – even within the context of a borderline stupidly hypothetical discussion. I have no problem seeing there are reasons why we should break the bank for him – but those (many, actually) who simply claim it's a no-brainer on all levels, well, I can't take them seriously. They sound like my 4 year old nephew talking about Spiderman.
If further signings adress the issues we have in the squad I wouldn't mind it.
While I certainly am not getting on the Ronaldo hype train, this is definitely true. Ronaldo made us (and to a lesser extent the premier league as a whole) 'cool' when he was with us the first time. Top young players, even latino ones who previously would barely think of us in the same mention of the big spanish teams, were really seeing us as a viable option because of him. You only have to look at Mbappe's wall in that well-used photo going around; the entire thing has Ronaldo posters (albeit in a Real shirt) all over it.
So would you be happy with Morata, Perisic, Dier/Matic/Fabinho and no Ronaldo? I'm mentioning those guys because we've been linked to them.
I'd prefer to bring Ronaldo home for 3 years than get Mbappe who seems bound for Real. It sounds stupid and I don't care what the figure is to re sign him but wow. Have you thought about it? Do you think he would still score goals or would he be a flop? In my opinion he would elevate our side instantly and he will no doubt perform and score 30+ a season. We would have that deadly streak back which has been missing since he left. (I don't think Ibra has been deadly for us).
We have CL football next season and i know we can afford him.
I think that's unfair. I'm pretty certain that everyone has some kind of tipping point at which they wouldn't want to go ahead with the signing.
Yes there is risk attached to signing an older player, but there is arguably just as big a risk attached to spending similar money on a player like Mbappe with 1 decent season to his name - or the best part of £100 million on a relatively limited player like Lukaku. At least with Ronaldo there is an additional massive value to signing him which offsets the risk somewhat - even if you only got 2 great seasons out of him he will have generated a huge amount of publicity for the club in a way that virtually no other signing could. I can't see Mourinho making any kind of 'trophy' signing just for the sake of it, so if we do sign him I'm pretty confident that it is first and foremost because the manager has a plan for using him and believes that it is worthwhile.
Good point, but it's worth remembering that Ronaldo has done less defensive work than any of the ones mentioned except Ibra, who was also basically freed from any defensive duties apart from set pieces. He's still got a couple of 40 goals a season left in him, given he no longer plays every minute of every game.
Think this Perez interview is definitely embargoed.
Hunter has spoken. He said that Ronaldo will be at United within a year few years ago.
Spoonful of salt with that piece.
I dont think people should worry too much about his age ATM. I am not saying he cant decline. I am saying that I have not seen someone as driven as he is to be the best at a sport since Michael Jordan. He has taken care of his body/health very well. There is no reason why he cant keep his high level for a few more years. I mean MJ dropped 40 and 50 point games when he was 38-40 years old and again not saying Ronaldo is going to perform well into his deep thirties but he has that greed and desire to keep performing well for years to come.
Thanks. I agree with you about his decline. Margins are pretty fine at the top. If he came to United I would expect him to be one of the very best players in the Premier League next year for sure. But I'm not convinced that he would score substantially more goals than top strikers like Kane or Aguero.
Ah yes the infamous Mancunian weather isn't for everyone
Did he ever complain about the weather the six years he was with us?
Not trying to take anything away from Ronaldo, just stating the obvious really. At has age he simply isn't quite as athletic in certain ways compared to the sprightly 24 year old that was rapid and had incredibly quick feet etc.
See above, motherfuqa.
Not so much declining as an overall player, the guys output is still ridiculous afterall. But his all round game isn't what it once was and he's making the most out of the superb abilities that he still has. Instead of the flying winger that he once was, but can no longer be, he's more centred around his play in and around the box.
Nope.
I hope so.
Or rather – I don't actually think about it in such concrete terms at all, because I really don't think there's any chance of it happening. But hypothetically, yes – I would hope so, rather than it being seen as the ultimate marquee signing, etc.
Anyway, tipping point – yes, I'm sure most have that. There are multiple posters on here who do fit the categories posted above, though – i.e. people who are blindly in love with Ronaldo and/or think he guarantees trophies.
Actually, what was posted above sums up the whole debate perfectly.
And on that note, I think I'll just leave this thread alone (at least until he signs...)
There is no guarantee that anyone we sign, for whatever money, would score as many as Kane or Aguero....however, if you asked 100 football fans who they would put money on to score most in the next couple of Premier league seasons all of them would surely say Messi or Ronaldo (were they to be playing in England).
No. Even said he didn't mind as he didn't go out much.
I have read every point you made.
I considered each point in great detail.
I looked at the stats. Studied them. Analysed them.
My conclusion is summarised in my reply below:
ITS RONALDO...PAY THE WORLD RECORD FEE AND BRING HIM TO OLD TRAFFORD!!!
He is the reigning ballon d'or so whether you expect it or not he will one of if not the best player in the league next year. I think you are underestimating the pure influence a guy like Ronaldo can have on the entire dressing room. His mere presence will give players around him confidence and wanting to perform to win more and make others better. Also you're comparing out and out strikers with a winger/inside forward. Although I have no doubt Ronaldo can match/outscore those players, especially Aguero who spends half his time on the injury table.
I would be happy with the bolded, under the circumstances that Madrid won't totally rip us off with the price on Morata. Which They probably will/would do.
I think we could do better than Perisic, its a shame that we aren't seriously in the race for Douglas Costa. Another back up centre back and a right winger would give us a firm ground to stand on coming into next season. We need to limit the usage of players like Rooney and Lingard since they are not even close to the quality we need right now, both of them played way too much last season.
People seem to forget right now he's the BEST player in the world. Nothing better than that, when you want the best, you pay a price because there is simply no one better. Caf often have silly people on though to be fair.
Heh, winnigest club in european football history, it comes with the territoryYou madridistas and your pride
Oh, absolutely. So long as the club doesn't pay extra money for whatever fines Hacienda will levy at his feet, if he shows full commitment people will forget about all this, and quickly. All Cristiano has to do is come out and rubbish all this media "speculations" and confirm his commitment to the club. And not get the club to pay his fines
I mean, we're pissed at this saga and at him for starting it, but it's not like we don't want him to stay
Well i'm not so sure about that. We have a great team as it is, and there's a lot we can do with €200M. We might even improve. As great as he is, i'm not sure he's better than, say, Dybala+Aubameyang. He's still only one player afterall, football's not basketball
Perez will do whatever it takes to keep him, of course. Short of making the socios pay for his screw-up. That's the one thing that won't be tolerated imho
Is there any source for that?
What time is Perez expected to speak?
Already did. Said nothing about Cristiano
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