Pretty much the best player in the world and can still be for at least two more seasons I think. I'd say for that reason we should pay a hefty sum.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation
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Couldn't disagree more. He has a lot of insight. He regularly posts extensive articles for the scandinavian United supporters club where you get a proper insight to different topics. The latest of those revolving around United and how they're dealing in the transfer market. The articles are behind a paywall so I can't post them here, but I translated the last one.
I think the difference between him and other journos is that he's always 100% honest. There's no clickbaiting or making up stuff. He's often censoring names in his articles to maintain a good relationship with his sources.
Let's be honest though, at some of the prices mentioned it would be a horrible deal for you. 175m + DDGChrist..
Florentino would laugh all the way moonwalking to the bank.
In part I would agree there comes a cut off in terms of price but for me it would be relatively high, a price tag of £150mil wouldn't dissuade me, he would bring far more than that in almost instantly and would IMO guarantee us as near as damn it the prem title, Whilst I really rate DDG if it was a choice between DDG and no Ronaldo or Romero and Ronaldo, I wouldn't even give it a second thought, DDG saves less points that Ronaldo wins.
If there is a sniff of this being true, we should jump on it like stink on sh.. however I do not genuinely see this as anything other than posturing by Ronaldo either to strong arm the Spannish Gov into some sort of consession or in getting Real to pay him more to compensate his losses.
That said I thought Pogba was ridiculous, never gonna happen....
I believe it's possible to focus at multiple targets at once. Obviously the pursuit of other targets can't be haulted because of Ronaldo. I'd like to think Woodward is working on Ronaldo alongside his original targets. My only worry is that this is messing up with the Morata transfer. Which is understandable though since it'll be one or the other (if any of them at all), but the worst case scenario is that we'll miss out on both
We would not buy Ronaldo for a free with a 1-2 year contract. We would buy him for a ton of money and would need to give him about a 6 year contract at £600,000 per week. I don't mind if we pay him that kind of money in 2017-2018. But when he is 35, 36, we will still be paying him exhorbitant money, possibly putting him into the team even if he's no longer producing the goals.
We shud play hardball. Not many club can afford Ronnie's wage. 50m or you keep on paying his salary for 4 years.
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Why do you care how much money he makes ? Its not like you or any of us have any influence on what the club spends.
Our divorce papers with Rooney are drawn up and it's just a matter of time.
It's funny that half the members here are interested in going back to that ex that left us for someone else, just as she is about to go into menopause.
Why not look for a 23-27 year old instead?
It's funny that half the members here are interested in going back to that ex that left us for someone else, just as she is about to go into menopause.
Why not look for a 23-27 year old instead?
Well yea that would obviously be insane, but a cash only deal could go pretty damn high and still be worth it.Let's be honest though, at some of the prices mentioned it would be a horrible deal for you. 175m + DDG
Florentino would laugh all the way moonwalking to the bank.
I've gone up to about 30% chance of this happening now. Fully expect this to decline sharply tonight.
Man of the match in his last game.
But didn't score. Must be losing it.
Logic of the Caf.
Why tonight?
You are right, we shouldn't care. But at the beginning of Moyes term Rooney was given a high money 6-year contract. A few years later, we all heard the phrase "my captain always plays". It's very difficult to drop a 600k player to the bench. And it's never a good idea to build a team around a 32 year old.
I can understand why you want him now. He is a fantastic player right now. But if you stop and think what this means for our club, maybe you will see it's not such an ideal signing.
I've gone from 30 to 10% on this. Have a feeling there's a lot going on behind the scenes right now involving Perez and Mendes attempting to diffuse the situation.
Ronaldo was shown so many times in this kit release video. Its a sign he is coming home.
Floris pissant is doing an interview on the some Spanish radio channel
Unfortunately I think he will pour more fuel on the fire and be vague and intentionally critic to twist things to his a advantage but ultimately dragging things out until the last minute "u-turn"
Seriously.... all of you that want CR7 back need to wake up and start thinking about the team as a whole. We don't need him. All that money that would be used into buying him could be used to buy quite a few good quality players that would improve the squad immensely. CR7 is in great shape but CR7 never made Man United. United made him..... and we can continue to make other players. Mourinho would be smart enough to NOT consider him. We need to get Morata in now when we've got the chance. This CR7 saga will come to nothing and we'll end up losing in the transfer market.
I thought we'd signed him, I got 'canne take the strain'!
Because we have a thing for older women. And even though she's a bitch she's a 10/10 and damn good in bed.
Because it was the best goddam sex we ever had, and she still looks fecking amazing. Besides, the really classy young models aren't so interested in us, maybe we're a bit jowly these days, so even with all our money the young models we're attracting are more your reality show babe than supermodel or a-list actress.
I feel you manI was hoping Ronnie and Real would have kissed and made up by now so we could get on with buying Morata.
Isn't perez due to speak on it?
Yeah just heard mate cheers.
Sadly the favourite is that this is a contract ploy, which would be pretty disappointing from Ronnie.
Most likely scenario is he's going nowhere after Real take blame for his tax issues and pay whatever fines he faces. Assuming they can make the issue go away for under £20m, why wouldn't they.
So it is really up to Ronaldo himself.
If he's leaving, it won't be for some crazy price. Assume he's going to want £30m/year. Add on a £80m transfer fee and assuming a 4 year contract that's £20m/year (realistically he'll have no sell on value). So £50m/year over 4 years.
That's 10% of Man Utd's annual revenue on one player... do we really think that makes business sense to Woodward?
If Real sell it will be for a cut price (but still substantial) transfer fee that allows them to move on a big earner who doesn't want to be there and make space for a new star (Mbappe).
So it is really up to Ronaldo himself.
If he's leaving, it won't be for some crazy price. Assume he's going to want £30m/year. Add on a £80m transfer fee and assuming a 4 year contract that's £20m/year (realistically he'll have no sell on value). So £50m/year over 4 years.
That's 10% of Man Utd's annual revenue on one player... do we really think that makes business sense to Woodward?
If Real sell it will be for a cut price (but still substantial) transfer fee that allows them to move on a big earner who doesn't want to be there and make space for a new star (Mbappe).
Not that I desperately want Ronaldo back, but the bold part is what we've been doing the past three years. We don't need to sign a large amount of players, especially since we also have a good amount of young, exciting players who can still develop with us.
Plus, while I don't always like spending a lot, I'd rather splash out 180 million on Ronaldo than 90 on Morata, simply because Ronaldo's performance level is that much higher, even if we'd have less years of it.
Suppose that's true. Ronaldo would get a heck of a lot of goals too.
http://www.skysports.com/share/10920505
Pretty much says it's stay at Real or join us as we're the only club that can afford him if he leaves Real and the fact is we CAN afford him and it not affect us short term or long term.
Pretty much says it's stay at Real or join us as we're the only club that can afford him if he leaves Real and the fact is we CAN afford him and it not affect us short term or long term.
Footballers are like cars. When thinking about usage and decline, age is important but so is mileage.
Ronaldo is an exceptional player who keeps in amazing condition so its plausible that his body will hold up better than most footballers. But people really underestimate his mileage. Because he started his career relatively early and has played for clubs that are in many competitions and has rarely been injured, he has played a completely ridiculous amount of football in his career, about 68500 total minutes of first team football (club and international).
Now compare that to the number of minutes played in their careers by some other forwards who had exceptionally long careers:
Henry: 65000
Totti: 63000
Ibrahimovic:63000
Giggs:71000
Del Piero: 58000
Shearer: 52000
Eto'o: 61000
Raul: 77000 (I've taken out his time playing in Qatar and other BS leagues at the end, but this number still includes about 7000 minutes after he left Real and went to Germany).
Cristiano already has played more minutes than everybody on that list except Giggs (who he'll pass soon) and Raul. Even Raul, who was exceptionally durable, was a shell of himself by the time he passed the 70K minute mark (about when he left for the Bundesliga). Ronaldo is an exceptional player and exceptional players sometimes do unprecedented things. But the idea that he is going to be playing at a world class level with 80-85K career minutes under his belt (what it would mean for him to remain world class for the next 2-3 seasons) seems unlikely when even other durable top level forwards have almost never performed at world class level after 65K career minutes. I wouldn't rule it out but betting on it seems pretty risky.
Ronaldo is an exceptional player who keeps in amazing condition so its plausible that his body will hold up better than most footballers. But people really underestimate his mileage. Because he started his career relatively early and has played for clubs that are in many competitions and has rarely been injured, he has played a completely ridiculous amount of football in his career, about 68500 total minutes of first team football (club and international).
Now compare that to the number of minutes played in their careers by some other forwards who had exceptionally long careers:
Henry: 65000
Totti: 63000
Ibrahimovic:63000
Giggs:71000
Del Piero: 58000
Shearer: 52000
Eto'o: 61000
Raul: 77000 (I've taken out his time playing in Qatar and other BS leagues at the end, but this number still includes about 7000 minutes after he left Real and went to Germany).
Cristiano already has played more minutes than everybody on that list except Giggs (who he'll pass soon) and Raul. Even Raul, who was exceptionally durable, was a shell of himself by the time he passed the 70K minute mark (about when he left for the Bundesliga). Ronaldo is an exceptional player and exceptional players sometimes do unprecedented things. But the idea that he is going to be playing at a world class level with 80-85K career minutes under his belt (what it would mean for him to remain world class for the next 2-3 seasons) seems unlikely when even other durable top level forwards have almost never performed at world class level after 65K career minutes. I wouldn't rule it out but betting on it seems pretty risky.
Hardly the first time he's used us in this way though (if that's what's happening this time)
Wow, that's some really good research there! And, potentially, a good point as well
This would be the worst though don't you think? Basically Ramossing us.
Yeah, but, he's won lots of Ballon D'Or's recently so he'll be alright
One thing I should mention, when you buy a player like Ronaldo, you suddenly have a surge in many young players declaring that they "dream to play with Ronaldo". If I were Woody, I'd get Ronaldo and then test waters with Mbappe again.
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