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Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation
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That weather stuff is so last year, England has clearly turned into the Maldives.
There shouldn't even be a debate about if he'd be good enough - he's genuinely on another level. For all those against it, as many have said, merchandising alone would probably recoup any fee within a year or two so leave the money side to Woodward and concentrate on the player and what he would bring. Goals. Plus way less pressure on Pog.
Ibra had a very good season and is older, less mobile and, though an excellent player, is nowhere near Ronaldo's level.
It's very unlikely but the one hope I have is Perez knows Ronaldo is approaching his 'twilight years' and might not get another chance to sell him on for a big fee. The RM fans have goldfish bowl memories so if he can scoop up Dybala and Mbappe + offload Ronaldo I'm sure he'd be happy.
Ibra had a very good season and is older, less mobile and, though an excellent player, is nowhere near Ronaldo's level.
It's very unlikely but the one hope I have is Perez knows Ronaldo is approaching his 'twilight years' and might not get another chance to sell him on for a big fee. The RM fans have goldfish bowl memories so if he can scoop up Dybala and Mbappe + offload Ronaldo I'm sure he'd be happy.
Great post. What's Rooney's mileage?
yeah that owl with a cigarette told us
Quick someone text Ronaldo and tell him there is a heatwave in the uk at the minute!
That may be true. I'm just not sure the collective wisdom is correct. If I had to pick one player most likely to score the most goals in the Premier League, I would probably bet on Ronaldo. But I wouldn't be surprised at all to lose that bet. My point isn't that he isn't great, just that the distance between him and other top forwards is likely a lot less than many assume, and will also likely grow smaller every year. He has video game numbers at Real but the team is almost entirely set up to feed him chances in the box and he has world class players all around him. Statistically, he has never been an elite finisher in terms of shot conversion rates. His scoring numbers are all about shot volume. He took 162 shots last year in La Liga to score 25 goals. Harry Kane took 119 shots to score 29 goals. Creating shot volume is partially a skill and Ronaldo has great movement and instincts to get into dangerous positions. But a lot of that shot volume creation is due to the players around him and a setup that is all basically geared toward him as the finisher. Put him in a different setup and it wouldn't be surprising to me that he became *only* one of the top 10 or so players in the world in terms of scoring output, not head and shoulders above everybody else except Messi.
I will add that, more qualitatively, he has been unbelievable in the biggest matches over the last couple years for Real and that is very important and shouldn't be lost in the more statistical conversation.
Thanks. Rooney has played about 58000 first team minutes between club and internationals.
You make good and important points - however none of us know exactly how it would pan out if Ronaldo came back.
Would you want him at Arsenal?
You'd prefer Kane than Ronaldo then?
And if he could just let us at Redcafe know on the quiet if he's messing about with this or serious...
save ourselves bothering to pop in here every few hours.
"Quick, a guy called RedPete has posted, what if he knows something no-one else does"
As a Man Utd fan I would like to see best players at United. Mbappe has potential to be the one of the best at some point in his career and Ronaldo is currently the best in the world. So from my perspective, I want them both if it were up to me. Obviously doesn't mean we can afford that.
For what it's worth, i really think he's gonna leave this time
He wants the club to treat him the same way Barcelona treated messi, except he'll never get that. Barca could get away with it because they're catalans, majority of their fans heard the news of Messi being guilty of tax fraud and their reaction was "Feck Spain"
Real Madrid fans are spanish, they hear about his tax fraud and think "Pay your fecking taxes"
He wants the club to treat him the same way Barcelona treated messi, except he'll never get that. Barca could get away with it because they're catalans, majority of their fans heard the news of Messi being guilty of tax fraud and their reaction was "Feck Spain"
Real Madrid fans are spanish, they hear about his tax fraud and think "Pay your fecking taxes"
The general consensus seems to be that buying Ronaldo instead of Mbappe is bad business because of longgevity.
But you guys are forgetting...
But you guys are forgetting...
@Powderfinger I like the analogy but it's too generic. Ronaldo is a completely different specimen to the players you list, both in physical attributes and personal drive. I think he's the only 32 year old ever you'd sign for big big money because he's that unique.
LOL that would be a funny situation if that really happens.
And we tell Mbappe play one more year, and we'll get you, you'll play with Ronaldo next year and you'll be very happy.
Found the climate so difficult he....stayed for 6 years
Stopped reading when the guy put Arsenal's name in the mix!
In what planet would Arsenal have even a hope? Maybe one where the richest 5 clubs in each league in Europe all went bankrupt, leaving them as the big dogs?
Usual underwhelming stuff.
Feels like one of those TV documentaries that vow to "get to the truth" of major unsolved crimes, yet, don't ever get there, and leave you with nothing new.
It depends on the cost and commitment. He is obviously still a great player and better than any other player Arsenal could sign this summer. Obviously we have no chance, that goes without saying.
I probably would prefer Kane to Ronaldo if we are making fairly reasonable assumptions about their respective costs. Ronaldo may be better right now but I'm not sure the gap is really that large and I would definitely bet on Kane being better overall over the course of a five year contract given Ronaldo's age and mileage.
Found the climate so difficult he....stayed for 6 years
Stopped reading when the guy put Arsenal's name in the mix!
In what planet would Arsenal have even a hope? Maybe one where the richest 5 clubs in each league in Europe all went bankrupt, leaving them as the big dogs?
Aye and Inter. They can't even sort their FFP to buy fecking Di Maria never mind having an outlay for Ronaldo.
So far, in around half a week, we've seen every possible angle from the supposed best minds of twitter journalists.
Another week or so and i'm sure it'll have burnt itself out.
I'd wager nobody on the forum has forgotten that.
It's just that most look beyond right now. Including managers and chief execs.
This is so true.
I'm reading that Mendes has engineered this order to leave since he's pissed at how his stable of players have been sidelined at the Bernabeu (Pepe, James, Coentrao). He's also very nervous because so many of his players have or have had tax evasion troubles (google Falcao tax case), so he's convinced Ronaldo that Madrid can solve it for him. Except they won't for the reason's you've mentioned.
That conversation between him and Perez will be one tense encounter
I think what you say is definitely plausible. He could just be a freak of nature. But I also think its worth explicitly noting that this is what a five year bet on Ronaldo means: A wager that he'll do things almost nobody has ever done in terms of a forward sustaining world class production at that level of mileage.
I think the reason he is pissed is because this issue arose due to the whole image rights. He is blaming the club for it because he wouldnt be in this situation if it wasnt for them because the rights go through the club somehow. It may not be necessarily due to him just not paying his rightful share of taxes due to the money he earns. So he feels if the club had been more careful about the image rights contract then there would no need for this situation.
"When Ronaldo jumps, he generates 5G of G-force on take-off - this is five times the power of a cheetah in full flight. This enables him to reach heights of 44cm in the air from a standing start and 78cm with a run-up - 7cm more than the average NBA player."
Wow, is this true??
Wow, is this true??
He is doing it though. Hes about to win his third Balon Dor in 4 years as he celebrates his 33rd birthday.
There's no ifs or buts, he's actually doing it
if Mendes has previous for this with his clients (including falcao dropping him?) then its on their own heads
Now, of course, shirts aren't the only merchandise we sell. Or total revenue for merchandising, apparel, retail and licensing was £97m in 15-16,which includes £75m in sponsorship money from adidas (if I'm not mistaken). That leaves £22m from the rest of our operation (which includes or share of 10% on any shirt sold). In order to recoup a fee of 80m "within a year or two", Ronaldo would have to triple that income on his own, and that is if we assume he'll cost as little as £80m (which is highly unlikely). Even over a five year contract, he alone would have to add more than £15m per season to that, which is completely unrealistic. And that's not including his wages, which will amount to at least £40m per season, gross (his current wages (including bonuses) at Madrid are around €500k per week, net). So please, give the whole "he'll pay for himself in merchandise" narrative a rest.
If we end up buying him, I'll accept that. I'd rather we focus on building for the future, but that's just my opinion. I do wish, however, that people would stop spouting nonsense like the above, or saying we'll become instant favorites for the league and the CL or acting as if it's highly unlikely that he'll start to decline withing a couple of seasons.
Trying to argue against signing him becomes tedious and tiresome when every argument you put forth is countered with unrealistic nonsense, or you're simply dismissed as crazy, attention seeking or told you are worse than the people voting for Trump.
I'm interested to know who reckons Ronaldo would have a genuine chance at breaking Rooney's scoring record if he joined on a 5 year contract say ?
He only needs something like 135 goals.
That would be utterly, seriously, hilarious.
He only needs something like 135 goals.
That would be utterly, seriously, hilarious.
Yeah a 5 year contract would be very risky I agree. 3 or 4 I'd be up for though.
I think he could over that time, and yes it would be funny. Certainly a big feather in the cap for GOAT debates, top scorer for 2 of the biggest clubs
I was more thinking about Rooney being upended
it would be a more popular choice I imagine aswellI was more thinking about Rooney being upended
76 pages 
talksport latest is supposedly its for football reasons and not tax reasons?
76 pages
I promised 100 pages before monday so im little bit dissapointed to this.
Assuming Rooney doesn't get more than say 5 goals next season before leaving at the end of his contract, then we're looking at something like 140 over the next two or three years at best until he properly started to decline/move elsewhere - he could do it, but it's a big challenge, and I'm not sure he'd be up for it.
I wouldn't bet against it, but then I also thought Giggs would reach 1,000 club appearances, so what do I know.
3 of those pages are people talking about how many pages there are.76 pages
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