Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation

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unitedbhoy said:
He would need to average 25 goals for 7 seasons. The chances of that happening are extremely unlikely especially considering he's going to less effective with every passing year, and also that it's much easier to score goals in a Real Madrid side and La Liga, than this current United side in EPL.
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Well Zlatan scored 28 goals last season, despite missing a host of chances and missing the last 1.5 months of the season. Ronaldo is younger and sharper than Zlatan and could conceivably score 35 goals for atleast the next 2-3 seasons, that is to say until he's around Zlatan's age.

After that even if he declines he could score the remaining goals over 2 seasons. If he comes and stays here 5 years, he will break the record I think. And that is truly one record that will never be broken. There may always come a guy who might win 4-5 Ballon D'Ors , but someone who ends up being the record goalscorer of the 2 biggest clubs in the world?? I doubt it could ever be replicated. Hell how many people are record scorers at 2 different clubs, never mind two clubs the stature of Real Madrid and Man Utd?
 
idmanager said:
I know its funny, but come on, waiting badly for some genuine statement :annoyed:
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No chance he's going to issue a statement. He's waiting for Madrid to make the right overtures to ensure he can stay. Then he'll come out with an "it's only press talk" sort of statement. I am convinced that this "move" is a non-starter. I don't even see Perez making anything but random and generic statements (if at all he mentions it) on that talk today. That one is likely to be about how great his last term has been and what kind of vision he has for the new term...

unitedbhoy said:
He would need to average 25 goals for 7 seasons. The chances of that happening are extremely unlikely especially considering he's going to less effective with every passing year, and also that it's much easier to score goals in a Real Madrid side and La Liga, than this current United side in EPL.
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He's not coming, but let's face it. He'd eat the current PL defenders for breakfast and not even burp. Zlatan came over here much slower and less mobile and from a far less rated league and despite missing absolute sitters was feasting himself. Ronaldo would murder defences. If we created even as many chances as we did last season, he'd score 50 without a problem. Zlatan scored 28 remember, and he was out a while, had a bad phase for a bit and his conversion rates were pretty atrocious. You would bet on Ronaldo outscoring him easily (I would, at least).
 
Zebs said:
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Some men just like to watch the world burn.
 
idmanager said:
That is true. You pull off a Pogba and CR in 2 consecutive seasons with 90 and 150 MP, rest assured, you will be mugged for the next decade. Sure, we have the resources, but being rich doesn't mean you throw it around for fun.
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Lots of teams are getting mugged but United didn't start it and ultimately if you make your club rich? Why not spend it? We talked about value in a market and look at the players we lost out on as a result - and look how we're having to invest once more to play catch up. Buying Ronaldo at this time would make us the envy of every other club in the world - from a footballing perspective.
 
unitedbhoy said:
He would need to average 25 goals for 7 seasons. The chances of that happening are extremely unlikely especially considering he's going to less effective with every passing year, and also that it's much easier to score goals in a Real Madrid side and La Liga, than this current United side in EPL.
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:nono: 45 goals for 3 seasons.
 
unitedbhoy said:
He would need to average 25 goals for 7 seasons. The chances of that happening are extremely unlikely especially considering he's going to less effective with every passing year, and also that it's much easier to score goals in a Real Madrid side and La Liga, than this current United side in EPL.
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Whether he achieved it or not, being one of the top would still be very impressive. However, if someone could do it? It would be Ronaldo. I would agree with Cal - maybe not 45 lol but I think he's so greedy and hungry for goals - I think players will look for him all the time and even if a team sits back he can score from distance. He would probably take every freekick and penalty. He could do it.
 
Striker10 said:
Lots of teams are getting mugged but United didn't start it and ultimately if you make your club rich? Why not spend it? We talked about value in a market and look at the players we lost out on as a result - and look how we're having to invest once more to play catch up. Buying Ronaldo at this time would make us the envy of every other club in the world - from a footballing perspective.
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If you had Bale available for 150 MP, would you go for him? Sure, he is PL proven, but 150 MP? Its not like he has set Madrid on fire since he has been there. Once you remove the name Ronaldo and just evaluate the price, it starts to look ridiculous to me. Might not to others and that is fair enough.
 


Tweet reads like an attack on Ronaldo. Highly unusual for Marca. Guess it shows when Ronnie's public standing in Spain is.
 
Striker10 said:
The player has talked about playing until his late 30's maybe even 40 and who would doubt that? People talk about a decline but Ronaldo will be a top player for many years to come. He might will a Ballon D'or but then there is a bias 9/10 against English clubs. A UCL would be possible but I doubt it would be this season (if he signed).

That said the opportunity to be top goalscorer at United and Madrid? That would be a record never beaten. It's not beyond someone like him. If he's that same selfish player that has 6/7 shots on goal per game - then it's not beyond him and that would be sensational. FAR bigger then winning a CL with PSG for example. Far bigger.
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I am sure you'll get the same response if you asked Wayne Rooney. In fact, Rooney still stays he's a lot to offer to a team with title ambitions.

Ronaldo may be fit but his decline is apparent. Investing 100m+ in transfer fees and 150m+ in wages (If he signs a 4yr deal) is beyond belief.
 
idmanager said:
If you had Bale available for 150 MP, would you go for him? Sure, he is PL proven, but 150 MP? Its not like he has set Madrid on fire since he has been there. Once you remove the name Ronaldo and just evaluate the price, it starts to look ridiculous to me. Might not to others and that is fair enough.
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I would go for Bale, he's a ronaldo lite but he's more injury prone think. It's not about the name, it's about what he can do. That doesn't mean that we have to spend big everytime or on everyone. As a club we need to be shrewd. We need to spot the best talent, we need to buy bargains and we need to spash out when we can improve the team. Ronaldos so good he could cross the ball and he'd get on the end of it to head it in ;) ...but his goal out put is so varied that it would take a lot of pressure off young sholders
 
Z_Wolf said:
I am sure you'll get the same response if you asked Wayne Rooney. In fact, Rooney still stays he's a lot to offer to a team with title ambitions.

Ronaldo may be fit but his decline is apparent. Investing 100m+ in transfer fees and 150m+ in wages (If he signs a 4yr deal) is border line nuts.
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Cal? said:
Online polls? That's Trump level delusion if those are to be trusted.
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To be fair to the lad, I think he's been called on by a poster to represent the feelings of Madrid supporters. An unenviable task.

I can't imagine having to describe the United fans feelings, but here are United fans feelings on Ronaldo:

For Ronaldo returning, are:
1) Folks with an irrational love for CR7
2) Sensible folks who know he'd make our team much better if he stays healthy
3) Folks who believe he'd be free because of all the money we'd make commercially, without a shred of proof
4) People who foolishly believe he'd singlehandedly solve all the teams issues, and create lineups with Rashford as the striker and Darmian for our UCL starting 11 next year.
5) People who think he'll improve the players around him

Against Ronaldo returning, are:
1) Folks with an irrational hatred of CR7 or Real Madrid
2) Sensible Folks who are concerned about his age
3) Folks who believe this signing would certainly spell doom financially and would prevent us from building a proper team around Perisic, Morata, or whoever else the Daily Mail has us linked to, without a shred of proof
4) People who worry about how he'll fit into our underachieving front line
5) Crazy people that worry he'd steal playing time from our homegrown players like Rashford and tarnish our history of making stars rather than buying them.

That about sums it up.
 
Florentino will talk as well at 23:30 in a radio program called el Transistor,although I guess that won't say anything juicy.
 
Z_Wolf said:
I am sure you'll get the same response if you asked Wayne Rooney. In fact, Rooney still stays he's a lot to offer to a team with title ambitions.

Ronaldo may be fit but his decline is apparent. Investing 100m+ in transfer fees and 150m+ in wages (If he signs a 4yr deal) is beyond belief.
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Yeah but there is a difference in how they look after themselves. One is more believable then the other. Ronaldo COULD actually help Rooney regain some form. That isn't beyond possibility. We said it didn't work for Madrid but it actually did. When you do it right. Pogba/Ronaldo - exceptions to the rule. Outstanding talents. It's a non brainer. Even if we flopped in the CL, we'd be automatic favourites for the premiership because even this team now - with just Ronaldo? Would be champions. Right now. Most of our lads just need more belief and direction but Ronaldo would have won us so many points at Old Trafford.

Everyone should know that. We probably wouldn't have won the CL. We're not ready. If people want a chance at the likes of Kane? Alli? etc. We have to take these opportunities. When Modric all those years ago played England off the park...all waited but Spurs. We've been much too cautious at times. Sometimes you have to be brave and make brave decisions. Things that people might think are crazy but ask a Madrid fan if they want the money? No, they just want the best players lol

Everyone wants the best players. The supporters don't care or they forget once the football starts. Ronaldo would scare teams much more then Zlatan has. They don't think he's 32/33 and past it? He would so much heat of Martial and Rashford etc. They would basically get a chance to rebuild their confidence among the best.
 
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Treble said:
What does "against the player" mean here? That they want him out?
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No, not really. Just that people want him to take resposibility for his actions. If he committed tax fraud and has to pay a fine, he has to pay, not the club. If he's not willing to do that, then he can leave, for a good offer.

I think Cristiano could still defuse this whole situation if he wants. He's still got a lot of leeway with madridismo.

He just did the one thing he should never have done: trying to put himself above the club(this is the perception from the outside, not necessarily the truth or even his intention)
 
Cal? said:
Online polls? That's Trump level delusion if those are to be trusted.
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But those will be trusted, by Florentino, when it's time to sit down and talk with the player. Whether you or I do doesn't really matter
 
0161_UNITED said:
To be fair to the lad, I think he's been called on by a poster to represent the feelings of Madrid supporters. An unenviable task.

I can't imagine having to describe the United fans feelings, but here are United fans feelings on Ronaldo:

For Ronaldo returning, are:
1) Folks with an irrational love for CR7
2) Sensible folks who know he'd make our team much better if he stays healthy
3) Folks who believe he'd be free because of all the money we'd make commercially, without a shred of proof
4) People who foolishly believe he'd singlehandedly solve all the teams issues, and create lineups with Rashford as the striker and Darmian for our UCL starting 11 next year.
5) People who think he'll improve the players around him

Against Ronaldo returning, are:
1) Folks with an irrational hatred of CR7 or Real Madrid
2) Sensible Folks who are concerned about his age
3) Folks who believe this signing would certainly spell doom financially and would prevent us from building a proper team around Perisic, Morata, or whoever else the Daily Mail has us linked to, without a shred of proof
4) People who worry about how he'll fit into our underachieving front line
5) Crazy people that worry he'd steal playing time from our homegrown players like Rashford and tarnish our history of making stars rather than buying them.

That about sums it up.
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That's a pretty good summary
 
giorno said:
But those will be trusted, by Florentino, when it's time to sit down and talk with the player. Whether you or I do doesn't really matter
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I have no doubt that a someone as shrewd as Perez will have a better source of information than an online poll. But the 2nd half of what you said is true.
 
If we want a fantasy signing, let's just throw Ronaldo money to other targets such as:

Neymar
Lewandowski
Messi
Mbappe
Bale

We have already seen the best years from Ronaldo, but most of these players are still at their peak, or in Mbappe's case, with the peak to come.
 
manunited1919 said:
If we want a fantasy signing, let's just throw Ronaldo money to other targets such as:

Neymar
Lewandowski
Messi
Mbappe
Bale

We have already seen the best years from Ronaldo, but most of these players are still at their peak, or in Mbappe's case, with the peak to come.
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They are all playing for far superior teams apart from mbappe and would have no interest in playing for us lol
 
manunited1919 said:
If we want a fantasy signing, let's just throw Ronaldo money to other targets such as:

Neymar
Lewandowski
Messi
Mbappe
Bale

We have already seen the best years from Ronaldo, but most of these players are still at their peak, or in Mbappe's case, with the peak to come.
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Neymar will cost even more,

I'm not convinced that Messi or Bale will be better than Ronaldo in 2-3 years time, despite their younger age. Bale is already a bit of a sicknote.
 
manunited1919 said:
If we want a fantasy signing, let's just throw Ronaldo money to other targets such as:

Neymar
Lewandowski
Messi
Mbappe
Bale

We have already seen the best years from Ronaldo, but most of these players are still at their peak, or in Mbappe's case, with the peak to come.
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None of these players spare Messi are remotely as good as Ronaldo.
 
Raoul said:
None of these players spare Messi are remotely as good as Ronaldo.
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You are thinking Ronaldo will continue to be as good as he is now for the length of his contract, but he is already declining, and there is concern and need to manage the injuries to his knees. He is dependent on high quality service, so we would need to rebuild our team around him. By the time we rebuild, he may no longer be the same player he is today, but we will still be saddled with a 3-4 year contract at £600k per week.
 
idmanager said:
If you had Bale available for 150 MP, would you go for him? Sure, he is PL proven, but 150 MP? Its not like he has set Madrid on fire since he has been there. Once you remove the name Ronaldo and just evaluate the price, it starts to look ridiculous to me. Might not to others and that is fair enough.
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Bale for even 80m would be foolish because of how injury prone he has become. If his injury record was better it would be a no brainer.
 
giorno said:
Bale, Morata, Neymar/Mbappé, Dybala, we can also sign Aubameyang...scoring shouldn't be an issue

I kinda agree with you about Benzema, if Cris goes, he should probably follow. He scored 28 in 36 goals last season though, mind. There's a chance he could be a viable alternative as a primary goalscorer

Perez will not do whatever it takes to keep him now. Public opinion in Spain has already taken a side, and it's overwhelmingly against the player. If Flo caves in, the first game at the bernabeu will be.....interesting...for both of them
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Is Neymar actually a possible transfer for Real Madrid?
 
manunited1919 said:
You are thinking Ronaldo will continue to be as good as he is now for the length of his contract, but he is already declining, and there is concern and need to manage the injuries to his knees. He is dependent on high quality service, so we would need to rebuild our team around him. By the time we rebuild, he may no longer be the same player he is today, but we will still be saddled with a 3-4 year contract at £600k per week.
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He's certainly not declining as he just weeks ago led his club to a league and CL double following a CL and a Euro 12 months earlier and being the world player of the year. As opposed to Neighmar on your previous list who contributed a whopping 13 league goals for Barca.
 
Really do want him, mainly because our team really needs passion as well.


Lewandowski would probably be a better signing for much less cash (tho still a lot) simply because of the years he offers us and he's more of a traditional striker.


That being said I think the chances of him actually leaving Real Madrid until he basically retires (maybe mls), is extremely slim to none. So I really wish we go make a bid for robert
 
Cal? said:
I have no doubt that a someone as shrewd as Perez will have a better source of information than an online poll. But the 2nd half of what you said is true.
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He will have all sorts of informations, from internal polls within the socios, to online polls from high-exposure medias(marca, as, el pais, etc) to social media

Point is, perez already made it known the club's position, and the feedback within Spain is so far mostly positive
 
Neymar has declined more than Ronaldo has.
We need to be at the top table to attract the stars, Ronaldo gives us a head start on that.
Put ourselves at the forefront of English football and show Neymar etc how big a megastar can become at United.
Ronaldo elevates the entire club.
 
giorno said:
He will have all sorts of informations, from internal polls within the socios, to online polls from high-exposure medias(marca, as, el pais, etc) to social media

Point is, perez already made it known the club's position, and the feedback within Spain is so far mostly positive
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Push him out!!
Push him out!!
Push him out!!
 
What are the chances Madrid sell Ronaldo then proceed to buy the next Generation of superstars in Mbappé, Dembele and Donnarruma? I mean these are guys who are already good enough to start at 90% of the top clubs. And Madrid have enough experience to compensate for their immaturity (if they have any).

Scary prospect if you ask me.
 
Raoul said:
He's certainly not declining as he just weeks ago led his club to a league and CL double following a CL and a Euro 12 months earlier and being the world player of the year. As opposed to Neighmar on your previous list who contributed a whopping 13 league goals for Barca.
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Yes, Ronaldo is already declining. I have seen him miss chances the last couple of years that he would 100% bury before. He did strike a good form at the end of the year though. But can he do it at United with service (or lack of service) from Valencia, Lingard and Martial?

And, yes, he will win the player of the year this year. But you do realize it gets much harder to do it each year. The decline at the very top level is not linear, because a quarter second makes all the difference between top 3 in the world and top 100.
 
manunited1919 said:
Yes, Ronaldo is already declining. I have seen him miss chances the last couple of years that he would 100% bury before. He did strike a good form at the end of the year though. But can he do it at United with service (or lack of service) from Valencia, Lingard and Martial?

And, yes, he will win the player of the year this year. But you do realize it gets much harder to do it each year. The decline at the very top level is not linear, because a quarter second makes all the difference between top 3 in the world and top 100.
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Interesting how you're selectively cherry picking things to support your oddly negative view whilst omitting the obvious ones. World Player of the year, led his team to two CLs and a league in 12 months etc.

Also, we're talking about Ronaldo declining from GOAT level to elite world class level as opposed to very good player to mediocrity.
 
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