Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation

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A positional change can cause less of a contribution in some areas but it should also lead to more in others. Switching from a winger to a striker will see you create and assist less but you should score more etc. Ronaldo is just getting consistently worse in all important categories over recent seasons which you always see with age related decline.

For Ronaldo to be an appealing transfer for me the cost would have to be minimal. De Gea certainly shouldn't be part of any deal. Speculating about that stuff is a waste of time though imo. I'm pretty sure he will stay at Madrid and even if he does leave I have a really hard time seeing him returning to England.

Yeah i pretty much agree. I think it's the old 'do what i want or i'll threaten to leave' again trick!
 
Ibra was getting himself into positions to get more chances in a weaker team and a tougher league.

:lol: no. Ronaldo was better last season. Zlatan was very good but had a terrible conversion ratio.
 

Onda Cero: Pepe trying to get Cristiano to sign with him for PSG.
 
I also wonder why you don´t try Dembelé since it´s obvious that the club has a lot of money. If you buy Cristiano, then I´d like Mbappé + Dembele
Oh yes. Option 1 = Neymar. Option 2 = Mbappé + Dembélé. Option 3 = Either french kid + Dybala
 
My point is that he is the pinnacle of a brilliant team. But he himself does not win Cups. So the point is that if our team is not playing well enough, no player, not even Ronaldo, can guarantee us trophies

But your ignoring my point. Our team is far from rubbish. If we had Ronaldo instead of Ibra last season I think 10 or so draws become wins. So mathematically you could say we win the league. My point if you take him out so Real drop to our level. It's not like Benzema is banging them in.
 
Ibra was getting himself into positions to get more chances in a weaker team and a tougher league.

What does that even mean?

Ronaldo might have not had the most influence in games last season but he still scored a truck load of goals. How do you suppose he did that? By not getting into goal scoring positions?

Also this tougher league thing is a lot of bollocks. He scored back to back hat tricks against Bayern, Atleti and then 2 against Juve. Those 3 teams have better defences than anything you'll see in the Premier League.

Ronaldo is going to win the fecking Balon Dor ffs.. There is no question who had a better season.
 
What does that even mean?

Ronaldo might have not had the most influence in games last season but he still scored a truck load of goals. How do you suppose he did that? By not getting into goal scoring positions?

Also this tougher league thing is a lot of bollocks. He scored back to back hat tricks against Bayern, Atleti and then Juve. Those 3 teams have better defences than anything you'll see in the Premier League.

Ronaldo is going to win the fecking Balon Dor ffs.. There is no question who had a better season.

Messi had a much better season than Ronaldo, which shows how meaningful the balon dor is.

You and others keep mentioning those CL games - why are you ignoring the context of my argument? That spell was clearly a purple patch.
 
Think we should keep this thread to just speculation lads, there's a performance thread for this sort of talk.
 
Messi had a much better season than Ronaldo, which shows how meaningful the balon dor is.

You and others keep mentioning those CL games - why are you ignoring the context of my argument? That spell was clearly a purple patch.

Not saying that Messi didn't have good season but at the end of the day those games in the CL and crucial games in La Liga are the most important games where everything really boils down to.

And how is it a purple patch? Ronaldo scored more CL knock out goals than anyone else. 50 or something fecking ridiculous! The closest one to him is Messi who is 15 behind. More than Ibra has scored in CL in all his career. How the feck is that a purple patch? Not to mention the fact that Ronaldo didn't score in the CL for the first 26 games of his career. See this weaker league thing its a lot of bollocks.

Raul and Sheva for instance 'only' both managed 18. They also played for some of the best teams in Europe so the argument that Ronaldo only scores cause he plays for a good team is also void.

The man is a fecking colossus in the game.
 
The £173 million plus De Gea dea is an easy win for Madrid, that would be a horrible deal on your part.
 
The £173 million plus De Gea dea is an easy win for Madrid, that would be a horrible deal on your part.
It's by the Mirror, no way is that ever going to happen, as a deal it makes no sense. The Mirror's loyalties lie with LFC so I think this is fabricated to make it look like Utd will get an awful deal.

The same article sarcastically refers to bringing him 'home'.
 
No way should we be going anywhere near this.

The guy's been a brilliant player but he's 32 now and must be on the decline. Plus he's got this tax case hanging over him (although he'll end up getting a fine and a suspended sentence, as Messi has).

Even at his age he'd cost £60m in today's market, so if we bought him we'd have allowed Real to have him for his peak years for a net fee of £20m. I know we've done a lot of daft things recently but this would be the ultimate cock-up.

Let PSG or one of the other plastic clubs take him. We're better off concentrating on young, up-and-coming players who could one day emulate Ronaldo. The ship has sailed on the real thing.
I can't agree with this
He's likely to score the most goals out of any striker for the next 2/3 years, that and the romance it's self makes the transfer priceless
 
The £173 million plus De Gea dea is an easy win for Madrid, that would be a horrible deal on your part.

There is more chance of you signing Messi than that happening, when do swap deals ever happen. And why do people actually debate made up sh*t from the likes of the mirror.
 
Messi had a much better season than Ronaldo, which shows how meaningful the balon dor is.

You and others keep mentioning those CL games - why are you ignoring the context of my argument? That spell was clearly a purple patch.
Messi had more goals/assists but Ronaldo won La Liga with Madrid and was incredible in Madrids CL campaign, scoring more than once in every round I believe; I consider this more meaningful, but yes messi was immense this season.
 
Oh yes. Option 1 = Neymar. Option 2 = Mbappé + Dembélé. Option 3 = Either french kid + Dybala

I agree with you those are the best options but who's going to put the ball in the back of the net?

You can't win anything big with Benzema as your biggest goal source... As soon as Ronaldo goes, Benzema in Madrid will stop making any sense. And as much as I rate Mbappé, he's too young to really lead the line. If Ronaldo goes, Real Madrid fans will have a bigger problem than they're realizing. I'm sure Perez won't risk it and he'll do everything he can to keep Cristiano though.
 
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Signing him doesn't make any financial sense whatsoever.

Why has everyone become an accountant, I thought it was about winning trophies not annual profits.

It makes more sense pound for pound that 100 mil for Kane lakaku or 70/80 for morata or belloti
 
The £173 million plus De Gea dea is an easy win for Madrid, that would be a horrible deal on your part.

Yes and no. De Gea has been completely professional. We think we know his situation and if people were honest, they would know it can't be easy. I saw an article saying that we rate him at 100million. Don't know if that's true or not. De Gea will always be a top keeper and has years left in the tank but so does Romero who has done well. While it's true he's not really made a mistake yet that's been punished, he's at a good age also. We also heard Jose talking up young Pereira. It depends,if we could get Morata too? Or even James - then we have a good mix. We could still potentially have Zlatan once he returns..In reality, how long will De Gea stay for? Are we looking at someone who is here for the long run?

People talk about Ronaldo declining but if he's capable of losing weight so become leaner/faster then I wouldn't put anything past him. The confederations thing obviously makes things delayed. I expect Perez to be bullish or dismissive etc. But we have to weigh everything up. What are De geas long term plans? If we kept him only for 3 more years? Ronaldo would be 35. With his ability, he might evolve his game but I think he could easily do what Giggs did and be as influential and the great thing is in Ronaldo AND Pogba especially, we'd create chances.

So if De Gea is happy to stay a long time? Then that's one thing but we don't know his plans and whatever people say, we've seen Romero now as have the club but what are Romeros long term plans? If he got the number one spot? If he stayed at number two?...Time will tell
 
I agree with you those are the best options but who's going to put the ball in the back of the net?

You can't win anything big with Benzema as your biggest goal source... As soon as Ronaldo goes, Benzema in Madrid will stop making any sense. And as much as I rate Mbappé, he's too young to really lead the line. If Ronaldo goes, Real Madrid fans will have a bigger problem than they're realizing. I'm sure Perez won't risk it and he'll do everything he can to keep Cristiano though.

This. He's not moving, of course, so this discussion is moot. However, were he to move, there's no way Real would manage to fill in for all those goals he scores. His record is stupendous and let's face it, the whole "they set the team up around him" argument is BS. We could set up 50 fecking players around Martial and we'd probably not even make 10th. To command that kind of position at Real, you need to be exceptional and he is. He guarantees goals and his conversion rate is astonishingly good. His contribution to the team is also well beyond goals themselves. Get him for 100-120 Mn and it's a good deal.

For all the "marketing income" guff, please, a player of his stature doesn't just "drive shirt sales". He brings in more fans and more eyeballs. That in turn means more sponsors and better deals with all sponsors. You can't measure impact by "shirt sales". You need to look at the deals. We grew in revenues this year and I'm quite certain a part of it was the added allure to sponsors of having Zlatan and Pogba in the squad. Add Ronaldo and our deals will improve further.

Cheers!
 
The £173 million plus De Gea dea is an easy win for Madrid, that would be a horrible deal on your part.
Good job it's just newspaper rubbish then.

Seriously, why does anyone even contemplate discussing Mirror articles?

Next they will be lining us up with donkeys like Andy Carroll for 35 million...
 
Good job it's just newspaper rubbish then.

Seriously, why does anyone even contemplate discussing Mirror articles?

Next they will be lining us up with donkeys like Andy Carroll for 35 million...

That's kinda the point. Speculation has died down regarding players we were linked too. Seemingly we've not even had any bids rejected for ages? We were linked to a few names but at this moment, it's stone cold. Of course that French lad let us down - or maybe that's not quite the whole story. We'll never know. As crazy a deal as it sound? It's the obvious one and sometimes the obvious is what will happen. If Ronaldo signs, we'll be champs again.
 
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Not saying that Messi didn't have good season but at the end of the day those games in the CL and crucial games in La Liga are the most important games where everything really boils down to.

And how is it a purple patch? Ronaldo scored more CL knock out goals than anyone else. 50 or something fecking ridiculous! The closest one to him is Messi who is 15 behind. More than Ibra has scored in CL in all his career. How the feck is that a purple patch? Not to mention the fact that Ronaldo didn't score in the CL for the first 26 games of his career. See this weaker league thing its a lot of bollocks.

Raul and Sheva for instance 'only' both managed 18. They also played for some of the best teams in Europe so the argument that Ronaldo only scores cause he plays for a good team is also void.

The man is a fecking colossus in the game.

Copied from facebook after the CL final (I'm guessing it's accurate but not really sure): In the quarters, semis and final of the Champions League, Cristiano Ronaldo has scored as many goals as Alan Shearer, Sergio Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, Aubameyang, Ronaldo Fenomeno, Eric Cantona, Francesco Totti, Miroslav Klose, Ruud Van Nisterlrooy, Michael Owen, Davor Suker, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Rivaldo, Carlos Tevez, David Villa, Robin Van Persie, Edin Dzeko, Jurgen Klinsmann, Gareth Bale, Dennis Bergkamp, Gianfranco Zola, Diego Forlan, Henrik Larson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Éder, Gabriel Batistuta, Olivier Bieroff, Falcao, Cavani, Diego Costa, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, James Rodriguez and George Weah combined :lol:
 
We've really become the "go to" club to help resolve any high profile contract negotiations. Is that what Ramos was calling Ronnie about?
 
He is on 350-400k pounds/week after taxes. Just matching his Madrid wages would mean paying 700-800k pounds per week.

Can't we pay him 350-400k and he can just avoid taxes again? Hehehe jk...
 
Copied from facebook after the CL final (I'm guessing it's accurate but not really sure): In the quarters, semis and final of the Champions League, Cristiano Ronaldo has scored as many goals as Alan Shearer, Sergio Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, Aubameyang, Ronaldo Fenomeno, Eric Cantona, Francesco Totti, Miroslav Klose, Ruud Van Nisterlrooy, Michael Owen, Davor Suker, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Rivaldo, Carlos Tevez, David Villa, Robin Van Persie, Edin Dzeko, Jurgen Klinsmann, Gareth Bale, Dennis Bergkamp, Gianfranco Zola, Diego Forlan, Henrik Larson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Éder, Gabriel Batistuta, Olivier Bieroff, Falcao, Cavani, Diego Costa, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, James Rodriguez and George Weah combined :lol:

Purple patch mate.
 
The fans need to get behind this transfer!!! How can we get the message to Ronaldo that we want him back home??? (serious question)
 
Copied from facebook after the CL final (I'm guessing it's accurate but not really sure): In the quarters, semis and final of the Champions League, Cristiano Ronaldo has scored as many goals as Alan Shearer, Sergio Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, Aubameyang, Ronaldo Fenomeno, Eric Cantona, Francesco Totti, Miroslav Klose, Ruud Van Nisterlrooy, Michael Owen, Davor Suker, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Rivaldo, Carlos Tevez, David Villa, Robin Van Persie, Edin Dzeko, Jurgen Klinsmann, Gareth Bale, Dennis Bergkamp, Gianfranco Zola, Diego Forlan, Henrik Larson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Éder, Gabriel Batistuta, Olivier Bieroff, Falcao, Cavani, Diego Costa, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, James Rodriguez and George Weah combined :lol:

I remember a time when people used to criticise him for not doing it in the biggest games. Even some of the Messi fans on here said it.
 
The fans need to get behind this transfer!!! How can we get the message to Ronaldo that we want him back home??? (serious question)
Given the size of his ego, I don't think he even contemplates there being a club - specially United - whose fans would not fall over themselves to have him play for them. So there's nothing you can do to "get his attention" and convince him "we want him back home"...if he even thinks of United as "home" that is...
 
I remember a time when people used to criticise him for not doing it in the biggest games. Even some of the Messi fans on here said it.

That was a long long time ago now :lol: I think even die hard Messi fan boys would agree that he is big game player.

fwiw I think Messi is GOAT with Ronnie just behind him.
 
Copied from facebook after the CL final (I'm guessing it's accurate but not really sure): In the quarters, semis and final of the Champions League, Cristiano Ronaldo has scored as many goals as Alan Shearer, Sergio Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, Aubameyang, Ronaldo Fenomeno, Eric Cantona, Francesco Totti, Miroslav Klose, Ruud Van Nisterlrooy, Michael Owen, Davor Suker, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Rivaldo, Carlos Tevez, David Villa, Robin Van Persie, Edin Dzeko, Jurgen Klinsmann, Gareth Bale, Dennis Bergkamp, Gianfranco Zola, Diego Forlan, Henrik Larson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Éder, Gabriel Batistuta, Olivier Bieroff, Falcao, Cavani, Diego Costa, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, James Rodriguez and George Weah combined :lol:
that's a terrible "stat", some of those players never played in the CL quarters and semis.

here's another one for you.

In the quarters, semis and final of the Champions League, Gianluigi Buffon has saved as many shots as Alan Shearer, Sergio Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, Aubameyang, Ronaldo Fenomeno, Eric Cantona, Francesco Totti, Miroslav Klose, Ruud Van Nisterlrooy, Michael Owen, Davor Suker, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Rivaldo, Carlos Tevez, David Villa, Robin Van Persie, Edin Dzeko, Jurgen Klinsmann, Gareth Bale, Dennis Bergkamp, Gianfranco Zola, Diego Forlan, Henrik Larson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Éder, Gabriel Batistuta, Olivier Bieroff, Falcao, Cavani, Diego Costa, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, James Rodriguez and George Weah combined!
 
that's a terrible "stat", some of those players never played in the CL quarters and semis.

here's another one for you.

In the quarters, semis and final of the Champions League, Gianluigi Buffon has saved as many shots as Alan Shearer, Sergio Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, Aubameyang, Ronaldo Fenomeno, Eric Cantona, Francesco Totti, Miroslav Klose, Ruud Van Nisterlrooy, Michael Owen, Davor Suker, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Rivaldo, Carlos Tevez, David Villa, Robin Van Persie, Edin Dzeko, Jurgen Klinsmann, Gareth Bale, Dennis Bergkamp, Gianfranco Zola, Diego Forlan, Henrik Larson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Éder, Gabriel Batistuta, Olivier Bieroff, Falcao, Cavani, Diego Costa, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, James Rodriguez and George Weah combined!

I'm pretty sure he saved more :D
 
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