Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation

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this is on Sky Sports ( who of late are just the Mail by another name)
  • Manchester United are set to go all out to land Cristiano Ronaldo in a staggering £175m deal - plus David de Gea.
I would be pissed off if this happened.

This is the reason why we need to be back on top of the pyramid. RM can dictate the terms.
Sell their ageing superstar and get a new 18y.o superstar for free and with cash leftover.

We are acting like an Everton or Newcastle where we get the scraps.
 
I was wondering how the media were going to come up with the yearly Ronaldo wants to go home rubbish, then the tax story broke and I thought there it is! This years angle, it's not going to happen and I personally think if he did leave he'd go to PSG, nothing to prove here but if he lead PSG to their first Champions League success his legacy would be huge.
 
Why the feck would we include De Gea in any deal? If Ronaldo wants to leave then they're obliged to sell, we don't have to sweeten the deal to tempt them.
 
This is the reason why we need to be back on top of the pyramid. RM can dictate the terms.
Sell their ageing superstar and get a new 18y.o superstar for free and with cash leftover.

We are acting like an Everton or Newcastle where we get the scraps.

3 additions and Ronaldo are we not a better team than Madrid? Ronaldo is the reason they are 3 times UCL champions, I hope they realise that.
 
3 additions and Ronaldo are we not a better team than Madrid? Ronaldo is the reason they are 3 times UCL champions, I hope they realise that.

1) I think if we get Ronaldo, it will severely limit our ability to get another striker, which we need.... unless we wait for Ibra in January. But then can u see Ibra and Ronnie upfront?

2) We will be somewhat one dimensional with Ronaldo playing like how we were with Ibra last season? (He just doesnt bomb down the wings, beat his man and cut in anymore like when we had him.) I think he will make us as static as with Ibra.

3) Plus if we throw in Dave and we will need to pay through the nose for the next goalie.

4) Though he will improve out freekicks for sure.
 
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3 additions and Ronaldo are we not a better team than Madrid? Ronaldo is the reason they are 3 times UCL champions, I hope they realise that.

Interesting. Throw in Ronaldo and Fabinho we could be as good as them.

Apart from their full backs it's even enough.
 
You might want to raise the bar a bit. Everybody except you would take Ronaldo for 65 mil.

55m-60m-65m there's not much of a difference isn't it? Ronaldo is a great player. However at 32 he's very short term and we should be building for the future not the now. If he's available then by all means, we should try and get him. However his fee must reflect the fact that he'll probably going to give us 2-3 years at most.
 
3 additions and Ronaldo are we not a better team than Madrid? Ronaldo is the reason they are 3 times UCL champions, I hope they realise that.
You do know that he plays with 10 other players who are top class and also contributed heavily? To buy Ronaldo, 32 years old, for that kind of money is just stupid
 
Thats my point - we havent said anything on this and are letting it get in the way of our targets. The Morata deal has seemingly been on hold since this news broke.

Don't be fooled by headlines and tweets.

A lot might be going on behind the scenes. Morata just got married and is on honeymoon. Who knows if his transfer has been sealed? Apparently, United isn't doing a lot of talking which is fine. I like the way the Lindelof deal was handled. Nothing said until deal was ready to be announced. I won't even be surprised if the Lindelof deal had been sealed over a month ago.
 
Please don't blow our entire summer transfer budget on Ronaldo.... And please keep De Gea.... Jesus Christ, what a nightmare
 
1. Rooney and Mourinho/Ronaldo have different agents.

2. It was 4 years ago Mourinho's Chelsea were after Rooney. It was 7 years ago Rooney flirted with City.

I'm not quite sure why you've pointed out those two facts?

1. I never suggested anything about Rooney, Mourinho and Ronaldo having the same agent?
2. I was referring to an interview Mourinho had back in 2010 when he was asked about Rooney moving to the Bernabeu? Thought I made that clear when I wrote "when he was at Real Madrid"?
 
The fascination with age bemuses me. It was the same with Zlatan before he came, as if all players age at the same rate and can't possibly be any good once they reach their mid thirties.

Ronaldo's physicality is on another level to most players. He's like he anti-Rooney, I could easily see him playing into his late thirties albeit in an adapted role. It's not like he's the kind of player to be running from box to box for 90 minutes either, he knows how to conserve his energy.

Not that I think he's coming, but it's still a point worth making.
 
3 additions and Ronaldo are we not a better team than Madrid? Ronaldo is the reason they are 3 times UCL champions, I hope they realise that.

Ronaldo has been Ronaldo because of that Madrid squad and its quality as well. And I am pretty sure he realizes that.

You can add 3 more players including Ronaldo and we still won't be near Madrid for a season at least. Players need to gel in and adapt. It doesn't work just as soon as you sign them. And I am sure Ronaldo realizes that as well. His chances of winning Ballon D'or next year reduce greatly if he joins United this season. Would he risk that when he is on the verge of overtaking Messi's 5? I seriously doubt that.

Perez and Madrid have become very smart in their transfer dealings over the past few seasons. Its no secret that they were terrible before and learnt from their mistakes. Don't expect any freebies from him like Spurs got Vandervaart. This will cost us a bomb. Maybe we can afford it. But that is not the point. We look like we were mugged and that would keep happening time and again.

The thought of Ronaldo coming back is very romantic and I would love it too. But there is a part of me that doesn't want it to happen beyond a point. Both in terms of finances and pride as well.
 
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You do know that he plays with 10 other players who are top class and also contributed heavily? To buy Ronaldo, 32 years old, for that kind of money is just stupid


It looks like it on the surface but football has many intricacies. I think between Woodward and Jose, a smart decision can be made. They had better get it right because their reputations and heads are at stake.
 
1) I think if we get Ronaldo, it will severely limit our ability to get another striker, which we need.... unless we wait for Ibra in January. But then can u see Ibra and Ronnie upfront?

2) We will be somewhat one dimensional with Ronaldo playing like how we were with Ibra last season? (He just doesnt bomb down the wings, beat his man and cut in anymore like when we had him.) I think he will make us as static as with Ibra.

3) Plus if we throw in Dave and we will need to pay through the nose for the next goalie.

4) Though he will improve out freekicks for sure.

If Ronaldo comes here it won't be to play as a winger - he will be played up front. Ronaldo is not as fast as he once was obviously, but his pace is still in a different league to Zlatan. His movement in the box and positioning is also much better - probably unrivalled in football.
 
Ronaldo has been Ronaldo because of that Madrid squad and its quality as well. And I am pretty sure he realizes that.

You can add 3 more players including Ronaldo and we still won't be near Madrid for a season at least. Players need to gel in and adapt. It doesn't work just as soon as you sign them. And I am sure Ronaldo realizes that as well. His chances of winning Ballon D'or next year reduce greatly if he joins United this season. Would he risk that when he is on the verge of overtaking Messi's 5? I seriously doubt that.

Perez and Madrid have become very smart in their transfer dealings over the past few seasons. Its no secret that they were terrible before and learnt from their mistakes. Don't expect any freebies from him like Spurs got Vandervaart. This will cost us a bomb. Maybe we can afford it. But that is not the point. We look like we were mugged and that would keep happening time and again.

The thought of Ronaldo coming back is very romantic and I would love it too. But there is a part of me that doesn't want it to happen beyond a point. Both in terms of finances and pride as well.


Interesting.
 
I'm not quite sure why you've pointed out those two facts?

1. I never suggested anything about Rooney, Mourinho and Ronaldo having the same agent?
2. I was referring to an interview Mourinho had back in 2010 when he was asked about Rooney moving to the Bernabeu? Thought I made that clear when I wrote "when he was at Real Madrid"?

Yeah sorry I read it as you saying that Mourinho knew about Rooney's situation because they shared agents and thought you were talking about his Chelsea quotes. Apologies, as you were.
 
Do not get sucked in, do not get sucked in, do not get sucked in.

Sorry guys, was just saying it to myself.
 
What do you think of the Bautistuta to Roma deal? €25m all those years ago is probably the equivalence of €80-90m now.

At the time Roma were desperate to win the league. Totti was growing a bit impatient with the club not winning anything and while he was fully committed to the cause, he didn't want to retire with no medal in his cabinet either. Batistuta was a short term signing which made it possible for Roma to win the league and keep Totti happy for the remainder of his career. On the other hand, such strategy would later degenerate with Roma being close to financial ruin and Sensi's daughter begging banks to bail them out. It wasn't pretty.

I don't think its a very good example to use tbh. Roma is more like Spurs (with Everton finances) then Manchester United and we can tank this signing without risking financial ruin in few years time. In my opinion, its more like a RVP type of signing ie an expensive signing which papered the cracks for 1 year and allowed SAF to retire with glory despite not having the quality side to do so. We all know what happened after that. RVP couldn't carry us anymore and successive managers were provided with a massive rebuilding project that took the scalp of nearly 3 managers (I wonder what would have happened to Mou if he failed to win the EL)

This is what I think. If Ronaldo is available then we should bid for him. He would paper the cracks, he would make us look good and he'll be a great mentor for Rashford and Martial. However, we shouldn't halt our rebuilding strategy because of Cristiano Ronaldo. If we have to choose between rebuilding the squad and buying Ronaldo then we have to choose the former.
 
1) I think if we get Ronaldo, it will severely limit our ability to get another striker, which we need.... unless we wait for Ibra in January. But then can u see Ibra and Ronnie upfront?

2) We will be somewhat one dimensional with Ronaldo playing like how we were with Ibra last season? (He just doesnt bomb down the wings, beat his man and cut in anymore like when we had him.) I think he will make us as static as with Ibra.

3) Plus if we throw in Dave and we will need to pay through the nose for the next goalie.

4) Though he will improve out freekicks for sure.

Ronaldo's free kick record is utter rubbish!

If we pay huge money AND let De Gea go that would be beyond stupid for a 32yr old who will only decline.

I hope this is all trash talk and goes away soon. He'll settle his tax and stay and then we can all move on
 
The daftness being quoted would be absurd. 175m + DDG would be us getting fecked like never before, and it happens a lot.
 
Either Ronaldo joins United, or RM condone tax fraud :devil:

If he leaves then doesn't join United then I'll cry.
 


President of La Liga rolling in behind Ronaldo. Operation we love you Cris has begun...
 
The daftness being quoted would be absurd. 175m + DDG would be us getting fecked like never before, and it happens a lot.

How is it absurd.

You would be buying the worlds best player, who is still at his peak, and will go down as one of the greatest of all time.
 
If we pay huge money AND let De Gea go that would be beyond stupid for a 32yr old who will only decline.

He's already declining. The 'age is just a number' people who think he will score 40-50 goals for years and years are crazy. He has gone from 61 to 51 to 42 in successive seasons in his 30s. It will carry on going in this direction unless he does an Ibrahimovic and moves to ligue 1.
 


President of La Liga rolling in behind Ronaldo. Operation we love you Cris has begun...


There is a good point in there though, Ronaldo is only accused. He hasnt actually been found guilty, yet.
 
There is a good point in there though, Ronaldo is only accused. He hasnt actually been found guilty, yet.

Yeah but society is a lot different then it used to be. People perhaps are not as tolerant. The President of La Liga should button it :) After all no player is bigger then the club right? No player is bigger then the league unless they're wanting to milk the Messi Vs Ronaldo thing for the next 5 years.
 
Genuinely believe that all of the sagas where we have missed out on our target, has led up to this point and we will actually land the biggest galactico of them all.
 
He's already declining. The 'age is just a number' people who think he will score 40-50 goals for years and years are crazy. He has gone from 61 to 51 to 42 in successive seasons in his 30s. It will carry on going in this direction unless he does an Ibrahimovic and moves to ligue 1.

Didn't you learn about ratios in maths class?

His goals per game is still around 1 in 1. His goal tally went down this year simply because he played less games. Zidane managed him in the league, plus last season he had 5 extra games thanks to cups. The guy just scored 5 goals in the CL QFs, a hat-trick in the semis, and 2 in the final. He might need more resting, but his record is still that of a monster.
 
Didn't he say that he felt annoyed at being booed sometimes by his own fans and say that it never happened in Manchester?
Would a player that actually loves the club use it for his own advantage? Ramos and other people with no affiliation to the club I could understand...
 
How is it absurd.

You would be buying the worlds best player, who is still at his peak, and will go down as one of the greatest of all time.

Pretty absurd though like. Taking everything into account I can't see how he is worth more than 150m all in. And that's still a huge jump from what most people, including myself, would have said he should cost a few weeks ago.
 
this is on Sky Sports ( who of late are just the Mail by another name)
  • Manchester United are set to go all out to land Cristiano Ronaldo in a staggering £175m deal - plus David de Gea.
I would be pissed off if this happened.
Forgetting the price there is no way a swap deal will happen. Real Madrid will want a world record fee of they sell him and we will want a world record keeper fee for De gea of he goes the opposite way.

You cant have that in a swap deal. So there would be two separate sales, if of course this was even true
 
Anyone know how Sky can report this latest "speculation" and then allow people to bet on Ronaldo returning to United on Skybet?

Surely must be rules? Whats to stop them using a dodgy source to make up a rumour and then make money of people who then bet on it?
 
Didn't he say that he felt annoyed at being booed sometimes by his own fans and say that it never happened in Manchester?
Would a player that actually loves the club use it for his own advantage? Ramos and other people with no affiliation to the club I could understand...

And for people that say he's lying (for want of a better word), it's true. We never booed him. At any stage despite his indiscretions. I think he's being truthful in that regard and I don't think this is purely about the tax. Though Ronaldos obviously stayed, he's moaned a few times about the support. And it's true Ramos is a no one to United. Very good player but the amount of times he's been sent off is a disgrace for a top professional.
 
Didn't you learn about ratios in maths class?

His goals per game is still around 1 in 1. His goal tally went down this year simply because he played less games. Zidane managed him in the league, plus last season he had 5 extra games thanks to cups. The guy just scored 5 goals in the CL QFs, a hat-trick in the semis, and 2 in the final. He might need more resting, but his record is still that of a monster.
Actually, his goals per game ratio consistently declined as well: 1.13 to 1.0 to 0.91. I mean, it's still monstrous but there is a downward trend.
 
Did he say anything last night after the match? If he wants to really leave, i reckon he would say so himself in the media. He was quite vocal in it before he left in 2009. Right now it's all the media talking among themselves, so i doubt there's even a single element of truth that he wants to come here or being unhappy in Spain
 
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