I sincerily hope Real Madrid doesn't pay up just to convince him to stay. Take responsability for what you do and specially for trusting people like Jorge Mendes. I usually defend Ronaldo but i have no defense for this type of behaviour. Pay your damm tax.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation
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Hmmm im not so sure about that, fans love to think it's s bottemless pit of cash but this is a business!
United are having trouble buying Morata off Real, so imagine the insane amount they'd demand for Ronnie, plus he would want about 400k a week...the money involved just doesn't make it a viable option.
Moving on...
What about ending his career in Madrid at 41?! This makes all Chinese pandas sad. C'mon Florentino, you can do this. Save the cheerleader, save the world.
My understanding of the case, does make me think Madrid bear some responsibility.
The laws concerning tax governing image rights were changed during his first contract.
The onus is partly on Madrid to ensure their asset doesn't suffer due to those changes and adjust the image rights arrangements accordingly.
One thing I do believe, is that if Ronaldos camp are informing clubs of his availability and one of them clubs is United, it's true what has been said in the last couple of days. I highly doubt Mendes would deceive his other client (mourinho) and jeopardize his transfer window as focus would be on Ronaldo.
Even more so if mendes is having a power struggle after losing falcao and fearing the departure of Cristiano. He won't want to lose Mourinho, which would be the case if he lied to Jose.
So I recon, if it's true what the telegraph are saying and mendes has informed clubs of Ronaldo's decision to leave, it's going to happen.
It really won't happen, not a chance in hell.
Even more so if mendes is having a power struggle after losing falcao and fearing the departure of Cristiano. He won't want to lose Mourinho, which would be the case if he lied to Jose.
So I recon, if it's true what the telegraph are saying and mendes has informed clubs of Ronaldo's decision to leave, it's going to happen.
It really won't happen, not a chance in hell.
That's not because we don't have the money.
The trouble is because we don't feel Morata is worth the amount being quoted.
We were willing to pay more for Griezmann.
Fek load of money has the power of reversing the irreversible.
110% this will not happen. We should not get all a-quiver because Ronny fluttered his eyelashes in our direction.
Man up and look for other players!
I like the way this Transfer Window has been proceeding so far. It's been a typical Mou strategic masterclass. He has taken the sting out of the initial barrage from the press. Now we need to get our business done quietly and not get sidetracked with media driven narratives which serve them rather than our main aim of putting a good team together.
Jose said he was on holiday and that Ed would run the show. In reality Lindelhof has already confirmed that he spoke to Jose during the signing and Jose has been quoted in the press which seems to suggest that we is working behind the scenes. Well played Jose and no doubt we will see the fruits of this at the end of the window.
This guy must have special sauces.
He's the only one who has completely different info than anybody else in the press every single time. At least the other fakers have the intelligence to quote similar fake figures to each other.
Wouldn't say it'd be easy for any club including us. You're looking at an investment of 300mil+ over 4yrs which is an incredibly high sum. I don't doubt our ability to put it up but it'd still be a huge decision and not as easy one at all.
Edit: This is actually assuming his transfer fee is not crazy which could well be a wrong assumption given how batshit mental the market is.
Ronaldo 4/11 to stay at Madrid. That's just free money, because no club is going to pay the ridiculous fee it would take.
Ramos.
We Had rooney on 300 k on a two year deal, We were offering zlatan a new contract at 365 k and we had bastian schweinsteiger at 200 k. We got schneiderlin and Depay off the books , Carrick is out of contract next year. Surely that is massive wages being freed up. Also the Transfer fee could be raised if we rethink our position on de gea.
If we can offer 100 k a week for lingard , surely we are in better financial health than most others think
All he's doing is tweeting things he's seen elsewhere as if he's some sort of ITK.
@Maradona10 - Best to avoid this guy.
What about Mendes counselling, helping his clients avoid paying full taxes by using off shores like the Madeira, English Virgin island tax free zone? Ronaldo and José Mourinho using Mendes companies like Polaris and MIM and then moving the money to Dublin/Ireland? Is Madrid's fault that Mendes is being investigated, even became "arguido" (there isn't an english legal for this) and charged for the Falcao case? Mendes is currently under investigation by the Portuguese tax authority. Do you know Mourinho paid a fine to the spanish "hacienda" because of this type of Mendes influenced schemes? 2,1 millions. Just 1/3 of what he recieved in image rights between 2010/13. Real Madrid are no angels but i believe the majority of the blame lies on Ronaldo and Mendes. This circus they are currently instigating doesn't convince me. Ronaldo will end up paying a hefty fine, effective admiting his fault.
Ofcourse, I was referring to how big an investment it is on ONE player rather than saying we can't afford it. He's 32 now and has a 4yr contract at Real unless I'm mistaken. Knowing Ronaldo, there's no fecking way he's taking a wage cut so you're looking at 40mil a year for 4yrs for someone who'll be 36 then. If there's one guy who you can trust to remain fit even then it's Ronaldo but it's still a crazily huge investment on one player. This is without even going into what we need to pay Real to get him.
DO NOT WANT.
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DO NOT WANT.
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DO NOT WANT.
How much is still left in the tank? At best we would get 3 or 4 seasons I think. Could make a fortune in merchandise and he'd instantly be the best player in our team. It's so difficult to value him.
Interesting point I hadn't thought of that.
There's a quite a bit being reported on this now, there might be something in it. I'm not so sure about United being interested though. Depends on Mourinho's views on him, the prices that'll get bandied about for transfer fees, wages, commercial and image rights, I suppose.
If he did come and we win the league with him as the catalyst, it'd be worth it, I'd say. If he comes and gets his knee done in the first game of the seasons, United would look like right mugs. Hell of a gamble for some clubs to consider, if all this actually has some truth in it.
I understand your point and I fully agree. Ronaldo bears the ultimate responsibility.
However, Ronaldo isn't in trouble for using offshore accounts. He's in trouble because he didn't pay tax on income gotten from outside Spain, which is where most of his image rights are derived.
That law wasn't there when he signed for Real. His arrangement was made based on the law at the moment he joined Real.
As soon as that law changed, both club and player should have come to an arrangement about how Ronaldo would be compensated for the changes.
My understanding of the case may be wrong though.
We have an income which is crazily huge as well and increasing at our lowest point in our footballing era after 2 and a half decades infact bigger than a club who owns ronaldo, and it will only increase even further with mourinho as manager and ronaldo's marketing potential. What happens with it when we return to peak? Which can only happen in current era in epl if we get back to top beating the likes of city chelsea and tott and liverpool which is incredibly hard. So for 4 years it makes sense even with the whole financial package. Power of New Epl tv deal.
Even if we signed Griezmann we would have given him 25 - 30m a year itslef.
We are giving lingard 100 k ,
you Know.There's no way Greizmann was getting anywhere close to 25mil a year. Anyways, I don't doubt we could afford it, as I said, it's more about whether we'd want to put this much on one player. In any case, that's for the suits to worry about, I'd be absolutely delighted if we signed him.We have an income which is crazily huge as well and increasing at our lowest point in our footballing era after 2 and a half decades infact bigger than a club who owns ronaldo, and it will only increase even further with mourinho as manager and ronaldo's marketing potential. What happens with it when we return to peak? Which can only happen in current era in epl if we get back to top beating the likes of city chelsea and tott and liverpool which is incredibly hard. So for 4 years it makes sense even with the whole financial package. Power of New Epl tv deal.
Even if we signed Griezmann we would have given him 25 - 30m a year itslef.
We are giving lingard 100 k ,
Would love to see the look on City and Chelsea players if we got CR7 back.
Priceless!
Priceless!
Yes He was rumor he has signed a contract of 10k after tax as a loyalty to atletico and were giving him 2-3 k more before tax.
He is a madrid fan so i was just thinking it would balance the argument. But i guess if people have a problem with it i will avoid posting his rumblings.
Yeah best to keep the tweets to established journos instead of fanboys. That's mainly for the Twitter thread. This one is a bit more relaxed.
Fair price, I reckon.
Feck me if somebody gave us €200M for him i'd sell him anyways at this point. Go and trigger Neymar's buyout clause with that money
Of course, but we showed with Ibra we're not against taking on short term situations if it's the right player.
The problem with forums like this people will find a reason why any transfer is a bad idea.
People were saying Bale was too old for a big transfer! 5 years younger than Ronaldo
131 million pounds is a fair price for a 32 year old? I know he's special but for how long? Resale value most likely zero.
Yeah like Cristiano Ronaldo is going to stop all the attention he's getting before he gets something in return.
Yes, it is. He is arguably the world's greatest player right now - With the levels of fitness we have come to expect from him, I wouldn't put it past him to carry on for 3-4 more years. He has scored 50 across all competitions in the last 7-8 seasons (except the last) - would expect him to score at least 30-40 goals. If RM had a choice, they would never sell.
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Why is resale value an issue? Seriously?
This is a top 2 player, we don't buy those with the idea of selling them.
Show some common sense.
This is a top 2 player, we don't buy those with the idea of selling them.
Show some common sense.
The difficulty with this one is not if we want him back, anyone with half a football brain must acknowledge Ronaldo would all but guarantee the PL at the very least next season and possibly a few more. The question is what is he worth at 32?
Mods could we have a poll - What would you value Ronaldo at 0-£50m, £50-£70m, £70-£90m, £90-£120m, £120m+ (of whatever values).
Mods could we have a poll - What would you value Ronaldo at 0-£50m, £50-£70m, £70-£90m, £90-£120m, £120m+ (of whatever values).
He's done that in a Real Madrid team set up to ensure he scores and scores well. No other team in the world other Barcelona can create even close to those sort of chances for him to score the 50 goals a season. Maybe PSG because the league is poor.
With the current market inflation, £130m would be a steal.
Don't come here with these sensible posts.. He will come and he will sell all the kits.. He stated he wanted to play well over 40.. So even then he will contribute more than Rooney does at 30...
It's more than a fair price. As you already acknowledged, Ronaldo isn't any 32 year old, he's one the GOAT and is still delivering at the highest level. Couple that with other facts including that he's still got 4 years left on his contract and his sheer pull marketing wise, it's a fair price.
Fair enough, though still would expect 30 odd goals at the very least for 2-3 years. That for us, in our current position would be paramount (to getting back to being the best).
Lol! Real feel Ronaldo is blackmailing them.
Think you missed my point, I was referring to him getting a massive raise and staying at Madrid.
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