Cristiano Ronaldo | Summer 2015

Do you want Ronaldo to return to United?

  • Yes

    Votes: 729 64.2%
  • No

    Votes: 406 35.8%

  • Total voters
    1,135
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:wenger: You do know this is Cristiano Ronaldo we're talking about? Second best player in the world? If fecking Harry kane can score 31 goals for Tottenham, Ronaldo can sure as hell score 50 goals a season wherever he goes.

Good thing we're not playing in the Europa league then...

Besides, even Spurs create more chances than which tells it's own story 'cos they are fecking shite.
 
:wenger: You do know this is Cristiano Ronaldo we're talking about? Second best player in the world? If fecking Harry kane can score 31 goals for Tottenham, Ronaldo can sure as hell score 50 goals a season wherever he goes.

:lol: True. The kind of bullshit which gets posted on caf in Ronaldo-hate, I doubt we will see it even on Barca forums.
 
What?

Those are legitimate reason why he'll struggle to score anywhere near the same number of goals for us which you seem to be ignoring.

His worst would be 30+ goals.
 
There is no way any club would sanction this move bar a sugar daddy club.

There are other younger, exceptional finishers and cheaper strikers out there who could benefit the club better on a longer term basis.

Any club with ambition and funds would buy Ronaldo, if he were available. Its not rocket science really.
 
I'm not sure signing Ronaldo equal playing exciting football, also the bitter taste of him leaving and then coming back would not leave my mind.
I like for us to win trophies, but the way it's achieved is also important for me, buying some young players that are hungry for trophies is the way we should do it, let them grow together and reap the rewards later.

As mentioned earlier, there's no reason we can't do both. We already bought Depay (whoops, Memphis sorry), who apparently looks up to Ronaldo. Bringing Ronnie back would also attract other players as a sign of our intent that we're interested in betting back to where we were in the late 2000s. His fee would be easily recouped in marketing/sponsorship/trophies etc.
 
:wenger: You do know this is Cristiano Ronaldo we're talking about? Second best player in the world? If fecking Harry kane can score 31 goals for Tottenham, Ronaldo can sure as hell score 50 goals a season wherever he goes.

You'd think we were considering Andy Goram as a DDG replacement, the way some in this thread are talking.
 
Hate? By your reckoning there are about 155 people on the caf who hate Ronaldo.

ffs.

I will never under-estimate caf in having ridiculous opinions, so yeah...very much possible.
 
Hate? By your reckoning there are about 155 people on the caf who hate Ronaldo.

ffs.

If you don't lick his arse with every post you make, it means you hate Ronaldo. That's how precious he is.
 
I will never under-estimate caf in having ridiculous opinions, so yeah...very much possible.

Given it's the caf, where people are notoriously biased towards Ronaldo there's a greater chance 233 of the voters are massive fanbois like yourself.
 
Any club with ambition and funds would buy Ronaldo, if he were available. Its not rocket science really.

Again, no one bar a sugar daddy club (i.e with little sense or strategy), would sanction a move for Ronaldo. It's not rocket science, it's more...common sense. Or business logistics. Or, if you like, it's living in the real world as opposed to some romantic, sentimental, fantasy land.
 
Given it's the caf, where people are notoriously biased towards Ronaldo there's a greater chance 233 of the voters are massive fanbois like yourself.
I won't mind being called fanboi of a player scoring 50+ goals for 5-6 seasons on trot and having United linked to him(add to that his United past).
 
Again, no one bar a sugar daddy club (i.e with little sense or strategy), would sanction a move for Ronaldo. It's not rocket science, it's more...common sense. Or business logistics. Or, if you like, it's living in the real world as opposed to some romantic, sentimental, fantasy land.

United, Barcelona, and Madrid aren't sugardaddy clubs in the Russian Oligarch/Arab oil sheikh tradition, and would easily buy him if he didn't already play for them, as would Arsenal. So there's 4 examples.
 
:lol: True. The kind of bullshit which gets posted on caf in Ronaldo-hate, I doubt we will see it even on Barca forums.
Hate? All @akash02 has done is correctly point that Ronaldo has pro[re?]gressed his game to the extent where he predominantly requires the service and creativity to come from others. Something that we have completely struggled with this season. Expecting him to come into our current set up and score 40+ goals is odd. Thankfully it'll never happen though.
 
We got plenty of games with barely any shots on target and the a lot of the time the defenders seem to have more of the ball than the attackers. Ronaldo isn't scoring 40/50 goals here unless we change the way we play.
 
Hate? All @akash02 has done is correctly point that Ronaldo has pro[re?]gressed his game to the extent where he predominantly requires the service and creativity to come from others. Something that we have completely struggled with this season. Expecting him to come into our current set up and score 40+ goals is odd. Thankfully it'll never happen though.

Good thing we have the likes of Mata, Herrera, Di Maria, Rooney, and Memphis as creative support, seeing as Ronnie is now merely a one dimensional tap in artist.
 
Hate? All @akash02 has done is correctly point that Ronaldo has pro[re?]gressed his game to the extent where he predominantly requires the service and creativity to come from others. Something that we have completely struggled with this season. Expecting him to come into our current set up and score 40+ goals is odd. Thankfully it'll never happen though.

It is ridiculous point to say that all he does is score tap-ins and Real Madrid service is all makes that possible and he has no role otherwise. Do you want to tell me that if I take out Ronaldo from there and put Higuain or RvP or Falcao, all v. good strikers in there, they will get same amount of goals and Real Madrid will get at least same amount of points? There is nothing 'correct' about that claim. Even if Real Madrid's service is better than us, if he scores 60 there him scoring 40 here is easily possible. So many times after matches LvG pointed out about being clinical and taking our chances is what is missing. Ronaldo can definitely do that and some more. Hell even if he gives 30+ for 3 seasons, it will be worth it.

Whether it will happen or not is entirely different point. I can't see him leaving with the record of Real Madrid all time scorer in sight. But if there is slightest chance of him coming we should do all we can to get him. That should be very obvious.
 
We got plenty of games with barely any shots on target and the a lot of the time the defenders seem to have more of the ball than the attackers. Ronaldo isn't scoring 40/50 goals here unless we change the way we play.
Ronaldo is one of those players who makes chances on his own and always gets off 5-6 shots a game at least. His pace, movement and pretty much everything would guarantee a lot more chances and a lot more goals.

Also having players like him lift the game of everyone else and makes the opposition sit back more.
 
Good thing we have the likes of Mata, Herrera, Di Maria, Rooney, and Memphis as creative support, seeing as Ronnie is now merely a one dimensional tap in artist.
Are you trying to tell me that creativity wasn't an issue this season? You can list names all you please but it doesn't change the fact that - as past it as they are - Falcao and van Persie, and Rooney by extension were starved of chances for a majority of the season. Memphis, creative support? He's a lot like Mata in that he is a clinical goal threat that you'd expect on the end of chances and not to be creating them.
 
United, Barcelona, and Madrid aren't sugardaddy clubs in the Russian Oligarch/Arab oil sheikh tradition, and would easily buy him if he didn't already play for them, as would Arsenal. So there's 4 examples.

Would Madrid buy a 30/31yr old striker for £70+m? Possibly (I'll give you that).

Barca - no way.
Us - no way.
Arsenal - no way.
Bayern - no way.
 
It is ridiculous point to say that all he does is score tap-ins and Real Madrid service is all makes that possible and he has no role otherwise. Do you want to tell me that if I take out Ronaldo from there and put Higuain or RvP or Falcao, all v. good strikers in there, they will get same amount of goals and Real Madrid will get at least same amount of points? There is nothing 'correct' about that claim. Even if Real Madrid's service is better than us, if he scores 60 there him scoring 40 here is easily possible. So many times after matches LvG pointed out about being clinical and taking our chances is what is missing. Ronaldo can definitely do that and some more. Hell even if he gives 30+ for 3 seasons, it will be worth it.

Whether it will happen or not is entirely different point. I can't see him leaving with the record of Real Madrid all time scorer in sight. But if there is slightest chance of him coming we should do all we can to get him. That should be very obvious.
Who is saying all he does is score tap ins? Him requiring others to create chances for him predominantly =\= him being a 'tap in merchant'. We shouldn't be doing 'all we can' to sign a player who is outrageously self absorbed in a side where the manager has consistently bellowed on about how the system is first and the individual is second. His current style of play doesn't fit here, regardless of how good he is or isn't. It's the same issue Di Maria has had this season, and he's far less rigid in his style of play.
 
The lack of creativity is a lame excuse for the poor returns of our forwards. Kane scored 30 + goals, i.e., more goals than Rooney, RvP and Falcao taken together and he became a regular starter for Spurs in November. Were Spurs much more creative than United? No, of course. Spurs were quite mediocre for the majority of the season.

To put it differently, how many goals would Ronaldo score for Spurs? 45-50, easily.
 
Would Madrid buy a 30/31yr old striker for £70+m? Possibly (I'll give you that).

Barca - no way.
Us - no way.
Arsenal - no way.
Bayern - no way.

You're being a bit selective with reality here. He's not any 30 year old player, he's one of the best players in decades who has averaged 50 goals a year for the past 6 years. Those are astronomical numbers that justify such a price tag, especially when the likes of Di Maria, Cavani etc. are going for slightly less than that.
 
Who is saying all he does is score tap ins? Him requiring others to create chances for him predominantly =\= him being a 'tap in merchant'. We shouldn't be doing 'all we can' to sign a player who is outrageously self absorbed in a side where the manager has consistently bellowed on about how the system is first and the individual is second. His current style of play doesn't fit here, regardless of how good he is or isn't. It's the same issue Di Maria has had this season, and he's far less rigid in his style of play.

The bolded part, that was the point where discussion and the posted you quoted of me is in relation to. That's what akash was saying hence my post. Read back to bosnian's post which I replied to was in what reference.

About being rigid, self absorbed, system etc, I won't worry because LvG has also said that there are some special players, who when available, you should try to sign them. Of course if a player is totally unsuitable per him, he won't try so it is all a moot point.

A player of Ronaldo's ability can suit any system.There is no 'well defined' and 'same' system Real Madrid has played since he went there. How many managers did they have again in the 6 years he is there? He scored 50+ every time regardless and is only getting better goal scoring wise. In the end, goals wins matches and he scored 48 in league in 35 games. Our whole team scored 62 in 38 games. There are no such proven goal scorers available otherwise.
 
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Are you trying to tell me that creativity wasn't an issue this season? You can list names all you please but it doesn't change the fact that - as past it as they are - Falcao and van Persie, and Rooney by extension were starved of chances for a majority of the season. Memphis, creative support? He's a lot like Mata in that he is a clinical goal threat that you'd expect on the end of chances and not to be creating them.

Creativity was a problem but not for lack of talent. We already have that. Injuries and formation woes (both connected to eachother) hurt us in the final third, which was exacerbated by Falcao's underperformance and RvP's injuries. Still Di Maria, Mata, Herrera, Depay et al are more than capable of contributing creativity if Ronaldo comes.
 
About being rigid, self absorbed, system etc, I won't worry because LvG has also said that there are some special players, who when available, you should try to sign them.
Which is exactly what he did with Di Maria and it hindered both parties for a whole season. Van Gaal is not infallible, we can all miss out the logistics and practicalities when things get a bit fantasy like this.

The last part is true, but again because of his style of play. Will he be able to do the same here whilst sacrificing himself in ways for the system? Doubtful.
 
Will you find de Gea as United legend when he signs for Madrid? By that logic, he is.

Not really. If de Gea leaves this summer he has not helped us to three league titles, a CL and a CWC..
 
Not really. If de Gea leaves this summer he has not helped us to three league titles, a CL and a CWC..

He did best as any player could, it's not his fault other players didn't play that good. It's not like we would win CL with Ronaldo here in last two seasons.
 
He did best as any player could, it's not his fault other players didn't play that good. It's not like we would win CL with Ronaldo here in last two seasons.

So why bother with the ridiculous comparison to RonaldON ?
 
As mentioned earlier, there's no reason we can't do both. We already bought Depay (whoops, Memphis sorry), who apparently looks up to Ronaldo. Bringing Ronnie back would also attract other players as a sign of our intent that we're interested in betting back to where we were in the late 2000s. His fee would be easily recouped in marketing/sponsorship/trophies etc.

It's difficult for me to explain, but it is the statement in it and my opinion that he does not fit with were we are going, and that is the team over individuals.
He chose to leave us and we shouldn't be on our knees begging him to come back, you could say if he were on a free transfer and he choose us, yes then i would take him, but not at those prices currently thrown around.

I could easily change my mind if it happened and he won us lots of trophies of course, but at this moment i wouldn't be for it, luckily it is not up to me i guess :)
 
It's difficult for me to explain, but it is the statement in it and my opinion that he does not fit with were we are going, and that is the team over individuals.
He chose to leave us and we shouldn't be on our knees begging him to come back, you could say if he were on a free transfer and he choose us, yes then i would take him, but not at those prices currently thrown around.

I could easily change my mind if it happened and he won us lots of trophies of course, but at this moment i wouldn't be for it, luckily it is not up to me i guess :)

Amazing how people suspend logic where Ronaldo is concerned, and opt instead for tribal/hard man slogans.
 
Amazing how people suspend logic where Ronaldo is concerned, and opt instead for tribal/hard man slogans.

I don't know what you mean by that.

Edit: I get it now, it was the wrong way of saying it. Let us just drop this, i got my opinion on him and you got another, that's fine.

Btw, i have nothing against Ronaldo, i think he is the 2nd best player in the world, but he isn't a player who fits in our future if it was up to me.
 
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If we're spending that sort of money, I'd rather Bale purely for longevity purposes. Both are quality and will score loads, but I just do not like Ronaldo's "it's all about me" attitude these days.
 
If we're spending that sort of money, I'd rather Bale purely for longevity purposes. Both are quality and will score loads, but I just do not like Ronaldo's "it's all about me" attitude these days.
Except that Bale isn't half the player Ronaldo is. He might get better but I doubt he'll reach Ronaldo's levels of prolificacy.
 
Would come back as a striker and team would be set up to serve him

-----smalling-----otamendi---
Alves----------------------shaw
---------schneiderlin----------
----herrera-----gundogan----
Mata--------------------rooney
-----------Ronaldo-----------
 
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Would come back as a striker and team would be set up to serve him


-----------Carrick-------------
----herrera-------di Maria---
Mata-------------------rooney

-----------Ronaldo-----------


I'd go for....

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or alternatively....swapping Mata with Di Maria and Herrera with Carrick as appropriate.

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Ronaldos peak is still higher then Bale. When Bale is ready to return then why not both? :) (not this summer obviously) but we could afford it.
 
Bale has his best years still to come. I'm pretty sure Ronaldo has already hit his.
Yeah but his best won't surpass Ronaldo's best. Unless he dramatically improves his technical side of the game, he'll always be a couple of levels below Ronaldo. He'll be comparable to the likes of world class players like Hazard, Reus but he'll never be mentioned during the debates for the GOAT.
 
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