sugar_kane
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That is ridiculous. He’s lost the plot the silly old twat.
Nice to see a clip of a United legend (Ighalo)
That is ridiculous. He’s lost the plot the silly old twat.
Ighalo > Ronaldo. It’s almost sad but true. I think ETH can rest assured now knowing that whatever Ronaldo does in that league isn’t going to haunt him.
Yeah, staying at Madrid would have hugely benefited him, they'd have likely gotten past ajax in the champions league with him and had a decent chance at 4 champions leagues in a row. It was stupid for perez to basically prefer Bale over Ronaldo, and it was stupid for Ronaldo to waste the last years of his peak at juventus over money, particularly when you look at the amount he's earning in Saudi Arabia now
Given how good he was for Juve his first 2 seasons, it‘s possible they‘d have won 1 or 2 more with him and Zidane… Perez spent more money on useless Hazard and on paying the wages of a washed up unmotivated Bale…Nah, Perez was smart for not giving in to Ronaldo’s wage demands. Wasn’t long after he left they won another CL and just as many league titles as when he was there.
Nah, Perez was smart for not giving in to Ronaldo’s wage demands. Wasn’t long after he left they won another CL and just as many league titles as when he was there.
To where? Retirement?I think he will try to get out after this season.
How do you love him so much after the way he treated United?4 years after is quite a while and as mentioned above any money saved from Ronaldo's wages were absolutely wasted on hazard. They'd won 3 champions leagues in a row, made 8 semi finals in a row with Ronaldo in the team, then got knocked out at the last 16 the first season without him.
A more cynical man than myself would note the season Ronaldo left was the same year Barca stopped paying the refs, so maybe that was a factor in doing better in the league
He thinks he is an alien, so probably to Mars.yellow card, what a ref
To where? Retirement?
How do you love him so much after the way he treated United?
Juve were also knocked out by Ajax with Ronaldo in their team. Ronaldo typically overestimated himself thinking he could carry them to the UCL. Instead they kept being knocked out by minnows.
Given Benzema's output in the last few seasons, Real Madrid's continuing success after a season of adjustment, the fact that the spine of the team is the same and Ronaldo's lack of success post Madrid, I'd argue that he benefited more from playing for them than vice versa. Ronaldo's allround game was rapidly deteriorating in his last 3 seasons and he was pretty much a poacher who contributed little else.Yeah, I know they were, that's why I said it was probably best for both parties if Ronaldo stayed at Madrid. He couldn't take juve single handedly to the CL but at Madrid they still had a sufficiently strong team.
And it's because his first spell here has enough good memories that it's not tarnished by how he left at the age of 38. His son had died like 6 months before, and he was having to deal with suddenly not being able to play football at the same level he had for the previous 2 decades, some stupid behaviour isn't enough to tarnish it, just like I still regard van nistelrooy highly despite some stupid comments towards Ronaldo, or keane despite his interview that was in a very similar vein, or Rooney for trying to join city when we actually title rivals to them. Players that have provided great memories watching this club have a lot of credit in the bank
Given Benzema's output in the last few seasons, Real Madrid's continuing success after a season of adjustment, the fact that the spine of the team is the same and Ronaldo's lack of success post Madrid, I'd argue that he benefited more from playing for them than vice versa. Ronaldo's allround game was rapidly deteriorating in his last 3 seasons and he was pretty much a poacher who contributed little else.
None of Keane, Rooney or Ruud treated United the way he did. Keane was frustrated with the lack of success; he was passionate but crossed the line. Ruud was frustrated with Ronaldo because of his brainless football in the early years. As a striker, he suffered from lack of service. Rooney felt the club was not headed in the right direction which he was proven right about and as much as ot was wrong for him to want to join City, he never went to the lengths that Ronaldo did.
How do you love him so much after the way he treated United?
Juve were also knocked out by Ajax with Ronaldo in their team. Ronaldo typically overestimated himself thinking he could carry them to the UCL. Instead they kept being knocked out by minnows.
Came here to ask the same thing, that confused me more than Ronaldo being a dickWhat the feck is Michael Oliver doing over there?
Probably earning his EFL refereeing salary in one single match.What the feck is Michael Oliver doing over there?
Nah, Perez was smart for not giving in to Ronaldo’s wage demands. Wasn’t long after he left they won another CL and just as many league titles as when he was there.
4 years after is quite a while and as mentioned above any money saved from Ronaldo's wages were absolutely wasted on hazard. They'd won 3 champions leagues in a row, made 8 semi finals in a row with Ronaldo in the team, then got knocked out at the last 16 the first season without him.
A more cynical man than myself would note the season Ronaldo left was the same year Barca stopped paying the refs, so maybe that was a factor in doing better in the league
Barca was annihilating Madrid during the Ronaldo era without needing penalties. The head to head improved a lot more after he left when surprise surprise other players aren’t being held back by Ronaldo like Benzema was much like rashford now.
ronaldo fared MUCH worse without Madrid. Took a team that was making 2 of the last 3 finals in CL to not even getting past quarter finals and losing to the portos and Lyons of the world. Madrid were getting better and better each year since Ronaldo left as Ronaldo made teams worse and worse since joining as each season went on. Neither Juventus or united would’ve taken Ronaldo back.
Madrid would’ve made the same move on letting him walk 10/10.
Yeah Madrid did much better without him than he did without Madrid. He joined a Juventus team that had won 4 doubles in a row (7 or 8 league titles in a row) and reached the UCL final in 2 of the previous 4 seasons.
They spent a boatload of money on him as he promised them he was the final jigsaw piece that they needed to take that extra step. Instead, they immediately regressed overnight. Never came close to a UCL final again and never sniffed a league and cup double again.
Given how good he was for Juve his first 2 seasons, it‘s possible they‘d have won 1 or 2 more with him and Zidane… Perez spent more money on useless Hazard and on paying the wages of a washed up unmotivated Bale…
He's so shit it's crazy
Barca was annihilating Madrid during the Ronaldo era without needing penalties. The head to head improved a lot more after he left when surprise surprise other players aren’t being held back by Ronaldo like Benzema was much like rashford now.
ronaldo fared MUCH worse without Madrid. Took a team that was making 2 of the last 3 finals in CL to not even getting past quarter finals and losing to the portos and Lyons of the world. Madrid were getting better and better each year since Ronaldo left as Ronaldo made teams worse and worse since joining as each season went on. Neither Juventus or united would’ve taken Ronaldo back.
Madrid would’ve made the same move on letting him walk 10/10.
It wasn't really the same team though that made the finals, you had an ageing midfield and defence. They probably could have spent the 100m on a more urgent position but at the same time look who juventus have gotten worse since Ronaldo left, even after replacing a 35 year old with one of the top strikers in the world, they've scored less goals got less points.
And there was a few seasons where Barca won the league by a handful of points, during a time we know they were paying referees. Whether it impacted on the clasico results themselves is irrelevant, it's whether the payment to referees resulted in 3-6 extra points a season, which I'd be really surprised if they didn't, because otherwise why the feck pay them?
Clearly though, you just despise the guy, I can understand people criticising his time at juventus or his second spell here, but trying to pretend he held Madrid back while he was there is ridiculous. They won 4 out of the last 5 champions leagues before he left, then they've won 1 in 4. They reached 8 semi finals in a row before he left then got knocked out at the last 16, it's a real stretch to try and pretend he held them back
Vince McMahon might be looking to sign him after those moves.I think he will try to get out after this season.
Barca never paid the refs, you keep getting it wrong. It would take a lot more than 7 million over 20 years to buy off a ref.
If the refs were paid off then they did a terrible job.
Ronaldo was aging, Perez was very smart to dump him. No Madrid fan, Juventus fan, or united fan wants Ronaldo back. Think about why that is.
you had a meltdown during the WC. Ronaldo is a toxic element. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t a great player back in his day. Being the second best player of his generation is nothing to scoff at. But he was a headache and teams continue to flourish without him as he made one bad decision after another starting with his desire to chase money.
Ronaldo has fared horribly since leaving Madrid. They were running on fumes in 2018, once zidane left it was over for a bit. Ronaldo can’t even get past Quarterfinals without modric and even Porto and Lyon would knock his teams out. Not CL winners or finalists.
madrid’s defense was shambolic they wouldn’t have won CL even with him as the 2019 team was the worst defensive Madrid side they had.
wherever he goes, he hears "Messi, Messi!" from the crowd it was the same after yesterdays loss. he will never have peace.
on top of that, he could actually end up winning nothing again. only 6 games left to play, his team has 3 points less than the league leaders while also playing one game more than them.
madrid’s defense was shambolic they wouldn’t have won CL even with him as the 2019 team was the worst defensive Madrid side they had.
How do you love him so much after the way he treated United?
Juve were also knocked out by Ajax with Ronaldo in their team. Ronaldo typically overestimated himself thinking he could carry them to the UCL. Instead they kept being knocked out by minnows.