Cristiano Ronaldo - Much Ado About Al Nassr

Which would be fine if he wasn’t already worth an obscene amount of money before he went there.
That’s the perspective of those who think there’s a cap on financial aspiration; for people like him, there’s ambition in advancing their worth, and doubling your career wage in a few seasons is a fantastic and logical move, which is also why Neymar went there.

It can be perceived as greed, but the people who would turn up their nose at eye-watering financial opportunities on the proviso that they ‘have enough already’ would be minuscule, when push actually comes to shove.

Of course, the other elements are vanity and denial, the latter being that retiring before you are satisfied that it’s enough is proven to be the downfall and spiral into varying degrees of depression for many a sportsperson. He wants a 1000 goals, and adulation is also a drug, so it’s all of the above, probably.
 
What the feck is he doing over there? Absolutely horrendous way to end a legendary career.
He’s just refusing to retire even though he should have years ago. No one around him is brave enough to tell him he’s way way past it. His fanboys still getting way too excited whenever he scores a penalty doesnt help. I think he’s determined to reach 1000 goals, which He’ll probably reach in Saudi in the next 100 or so games
 
I'd laugh if he has to call it a day before hitting his 1000 goals target. It must be the main thing driving him on because he'll see as one thing he can have over Messi.
 
He’s just refusing to retire even though he should have years ago. No one around him is brave enough to tell him he’s way way past it. His fanboys still getting way too excited whenever he scores a penalty doesnt help. I think he’s determined to reach 1000 goals, which He’ll probably reach in Saudi in the next 100 or so games

Why? He is obviously doing something he loves, still has goals to achieve, and is enjoying himself.
He does need to retire from the national team but there's nothing wrong with enjoying his last few years in the sport in a retirement league while being paid an absurd amount of money.
 
Why? He is obviously doing something he loves, still has goals to achieve, and is enjoying himself.
He does need to retire from the national team but there's nothing wrong with enjoying his last few years in the sport in a retirement league while being paid an absurd amount of money.

Because people who don't like him said so. Shouldn't that be enough?
 
Why? He is obviously doing something he loves, still has goals to achieve, and is enjoying himself.
He does need to retire from the national team but there's nothing wrong with enjoying his last few years in the sport in a retirement league while being paid an absurd amount of money.
I somehow no longer believe these two things. He seems more like a driven man who is desperate to score 1.000 goals. I believe he has lost his joy and passion by now. Playing in front of so few spectators can't be easy for him either. I suspect that he will have a very difficult time after his playing career is over because he simply has no idea what else to do. Probably another reason why he will play for as long as possible.
 
Which would be fine if he wasn’t already worth an obscene amount of money before he went there.
People who have lots of money, meet people who have more than them and it drives them wild. When you hav everything, the only thing left to chase is the people who have more than you.
 
If these goals count, then all of Pele’s should count.

On to 1279!
 
That 200m per year contract is a bonus. And it's good to have driven purpose in life also. Instead of just living by hanging there until they die.
 
His goals count, he is doing what he knows, he is not sulking and he still could easily play a role on many teams on any traditional league in the world.

For this last thing, he should adapt and acknowledge his age and what his team requires, "sadly" these two aspects doesn't have a place in his world.

Yet to go to the extreme of him apparently playing on a level that he should retire? nah. At his 39 he still is a more than good a Pro footballer, he never was a player to make a team tik, nor an easy going personality and quite insufferable too many times in his public demonstrations, but he still is Cristiano.

Many other players in his league aren't doing his numbers (or to the very least he is on pair with many other younger fellas in such regard) and we still can witness moments of great quality from him, he still has it, maybe he does not has it on a level to be so over the top with his antics and avoid in an easier way fans to tease him, that certainly plays agaisnt him (he always had that personality for the good and bad); but there is not a single reason on an strict football sense for him to retire if he still wants to play, given how fit he still is and his natural quality.
Yeap, I've said NATURAL, that silly stuff of him being just product of work and a very driven personality, it's just stupid, not being on a Maradona level of talent doesn't make a phenom like him freaking Martin Palermo.
 
I somehow no longer believe these two things. He seems more like a driven man who is desperate to score 1.000 goals. I believe he has lost his joy and passion by now. Playing in front of so few spectators can't be easy for him either. I suspect that he will have a very difficult time after his playing career is over because he simply has no idea what else to do. Probably another reason why he will play for as long as possible.

I mean, he obviously loves to chase records as well and I can't even imagine how it is to have such an obsessive competitive state of mind all the time.
I don't agree with some of the stuff he did, like the interview bashing ETH and Man Utd (although he was mostly right), but he did more than enough for the game and the club to earn my respect.

He is enjoying life, still playing the game he loves at a lower level, and chasing a few records to end his career.
I don't rate what he is doing in Al Nassr at all and as far as I care, he ended his career when he left United to go there.

I just wish he retired from the NT or at the very least becomes a 20/30 minute squad player because I think he can still offer something in those conditions.
 
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He's a legend of the game and for me the most driven football to have laced the boots but it really pains me to see him holding back his country now. He was finished at that level during the last World Cup but it was painful viewing during the summer at the Euro's. I'd get it if he accepted a bench role with the mindset to be thrown on as an impact sub when they are chasing games. The big issue is he demands to start and he throws his toys out of the pram if he doesn't. The whole team seems to just continue to recycle play, over and over in an attempt to create him a chance.

What he's up to in Saudi is legit fair enough for me, he's declining and has gone to a lesser league to prolong his career, nothing wrong with that at all and if it's a professional level his goals should count as well. Let's have it right the majority of these all time record goalscorers have scored far more goals in weak leagues than Ronaldo, he was at insane levels of goals from England, Spain and Italy anyway.
 
They count but I'd argue they aren't really meaningful.

I just don’t understand how these goals can count but FIFA decide which ones count that Pele scored?

It’s like Shearer being the PL top scorer, we just claim nothing happened before that then?

It’s all a load of nonsense.
 
I just don’t understand how these goals can count but FIFA decide which ones count that Pele scored?

It’s like Shearer being the PL top scorer, we just claim nothing happened before that then?

It’s all a load of nonsense.

Well yeah Fifa decides which goals count for everyone not just Pelé.

IFFHS does too and other football associations.

Guinness counted Pele's club friendlies then. Im not sure they would now.
 
I just don’t understand how these goals can count but FIFA decide which ones count that Pele scored?

It’s like Shearer being the PL top scorer, we just claim nothing happened before that then?

It’s all a load of nonsense.

Because in the days of Di Stefano, Pele and more prior to them, there were way too many extremely friendly matches (to in some way kind of cathegorize them).
Also like it was said before, it's FIFA what decides that for everyone.
I think of Cristiano's Arabian goals like the ones with Cosmos from Pele and I guess those counted for him, if not? it's wrong.

The thing with Cris it's that he won't "call it a day" till he doesn't reach that 1000 mark or cross it.
It looks like only some really bad injury, or extra sport stuff would avoid such moment.
 
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If these goals count, then all of Pele’s should count.

On to 1279!

That doesn't make sense because although the league is sht, they are still official games in an official league, while in Pelé's case they were counting non-official games (friendlies).
 
That doesn't make sense because although the league is sht, they are still official games in an official league, while in Pelé's case they were counting non-official games (friendlies).

Similar standard, and it’s not Pele’s fault that football wasn’t as well structured and organized. He scored what we put in front of him. He also didn’t have woeful national sides to fill his boots against.
 
Well yeah Fifa decides which goals count for everyone not just Pelé.

IFFHS does too and other football associations.

Guinness counted Pele's club friendlies then. Im not sure they would now.

Pele counted everything though, goals in friendlies, goals in exhibitions probably even the goals he scored in that match in the movie Escape to Victory.
 
Pele counted everything though, goals in friendlies, goals in exhibitions probably even the goals he scored in that match in the movie Escape to Victory.
Still better than counting 60 goals against Liechtenstein, Faroer and San Marino. ;)
 
Still better than counting 60 goals against Liechtenstein, Faroer and San Marino. ;)

Pelé himself played against his fair share of sh*t teams as well. Let's not pretend that every game in his career was against top-notch opposition in an era where there were a lot of part-time players.
 
Im glad Ten Hag got rid of him. Imagine if he is still here with Amorim in charge. Theyre both ex team mates as well. It can get ugly easily.
 
Pelé himself played against his fair share of sh*t teams as well. Let's not pretend that every game in his career was against top-notch opposition in an era where there were a lot of part-time players.
Yeah but back then defenders were allowed to use samurai swords and baseball bats on attackers. And if you cried to the ref you got booked.
 
He should move to the SPL - he'd only get about 2k a week but would score 60 goals a season for Celtic or Rangers.
 
Yeah but back then defenders were allowed to use samurai swords and baseball bats on attackers. And if you cried to the ref you got booked.

Sure, but the quality of the game overall back then was horrendous from the players. Based on the short sample of games I could find / see, your average player back then was similar to a pub player these days.
 
Yeah but back then defenders were allowed to use samurai swords and baseball bats on attackers. And if you cried to the ref you got booked.

Back in Pele's days you were able to retalliate, even worse prior to him when an attacker could even charge on the keeper, score and nothing happened there.
O Rei was quite famous for his retalliation and sometimes even being the agressor, it was common in such context (not just him), a big part of the respect he commanded it's that he was mean and strong as a bull.
He took advantage of his superior strength and athletism and got revenge or attack when it suited him, of course mostly he was the victim and just reacted to awuful fouls.
What you are describing it's mainly the late 70's and mostly the 80's, with the worse scenarios probably were the WCs, Copas Americas and Libertadores matches (these last two still are pretty rough affairs, kind of a time machine where Refs forget what year is it).
In any case constant fouling still exists and a forward protesting, even rightfully most of times, ends on with yellow card for him, that's why peoiple going over the top with diving does not get that offensive players are constantly being pushed, grab, hit, etc...if that "it's part of the game" faking it, it's too, more when you can retalliate like the old days.

Sure, but the quality of the game overall back then was horrendous from the players. Based on the short sample of games I could find / see, your average player back then was similar to a pub player these days.

It's not true either that everyone was a pub player or the level was atrocious, it was mainly different.
Players like Di Stefano, Pele, Mane, Eusebio, Best, Sivori that were special in the stamina, speed, ability department (in case of Pele or Alfredo, on everything). Had more atributes to have the edge against a tad slower, less athletic rivals, but it's just that.
On the other hand it's not that Pele or Alfredo that had extraordinary atributes for even today, with current training would make 100 metres in 7 seconds, it doesn't work that way either.

And BTW if the scenario it's like people tend to think it was, no matter how good you can be, you'll have quite a difficult time to do anything if everyone was a donkey bar you, it's a team sport. People also many times take really awuful videos in terms of quality, like the bible, without taking in account that the edition, angles and edition was mostly awuful when filming, most of those vids also have frames issues and a large etc.

So at the end of the day, every period has its differences, even if at any sport we as humans become a tad faster, more stamina etc. There are always in games like football, specially in this sport, other characterictics and different aspects to take in account that doesn't make it as black and white as a 100 metres competition.