Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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Ted Lasso said:
Think your reply to DSG or whomever is mostly fair and he/she is being ridiculous. But I do have contention with the bold. It's a bit condescending much like what you were unhappy with dealing with yourself. Especially considering the pubs outside the stadium have had fans singing Ronaldo's name all season long before matches and then chanting the same throughout the game. And those are definitely not Glazer fans because they usually sing about chopping them up right after...

It's mixed sentiment all over. And all of the opinions about Ronaldo are ok - he's done enough to be beloved and likewise enough to piss some of us off. Neither opinion should reflect the quality of fandom of the club. That's just unfair.
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I agree. However, there was a levelling of “delight” in regards to Ronaldo’s return. Yes, I was overstating the point in regards to the fans outside the stadium, but likewise it highlighted how utterly predictable we can be as a fanbase. There were fans who wanted to go buy the Ronaldo top ASAP, there was fans who were relieved that he never signed for city, there were the fans who never really got the chance to see him play at Old Trafford and now could.

However, for me the following represented the majority of fans;
While he was welcomed back (as United fans tend to do to ex-players) they still haven’t truly forgiven him for the way he treated the club. I liken it to welcoming your partner back into the relationship after they’ve had an affair. On the outside you try and pretend all’s ok, but on the inside, you know the trust isn’t fully there. You also know it will only take one incident for all the old feelings of betrayal to come flooding back.

There is a massive difference in supporting a player and being truly happy about them signing for the club. I’d bet my house that had you given the fans an option of signing a top defensive midfielder or Ronaldo the majority would have went for a defensive midfielder. Ronaldo was a signing to sell shirts and to calm the waves after the protests.
 
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Ted Lasso said:
Yes, I am triggered. I don't like my words or intentions twisted. And least of all to have that become the source of ridicule.
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I don't know how your words are twisted when you said this " We were lucky to be in a position to have him join us thanks to the 2nd place finish with Ole and having Champions League."

Then you are changing it to "We signed Ronaldo because we had CL".

Your first post implied as if we have to consider ourselves lucky to be in position to sign Ronaldo.
 
Zippycup said:
I agree. However, there was a levelling of “delight” in regards to Ronaldo’s return. Yes, I was overstating the point in regards to the fans outside the stadium, but likewise it highlighted how utterly predictable we can be as a fanbase. There were fans who wanted to go buy the Ronaldo top ASAP, there was fans who were relieved that he never signed for city, there were the fans who never really got the chance to see him play at Old Trafford and now could.

However, for me the following represented the majority of fans;
While he was welcomed back (as United fans tend to do to ex-players) they still haven’t truly forgiven him for the way he treated the club. I liken it to welcoming your partner back into the relationship after they’ve had an affair. On the outside you try and pretend all’s ok, but on the inside, you know the trust isn’t fully there. You also know it will only take one incident for all the old feelings of betrayal to come flooding back.

There is a massive difference in supporting a player and being truly happy about them signing for the club. I’d bet my house that had to given the fans an option of signing a top defensive midfielder or Ronaldo the majority would have went for a defensive midfielder. Ronaldo was a signing to sell shirts and to calm the waves after the protests.
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Top post. Speaking the truth.
 
As much as I don’t want to see Ronaldo go to another PL team, let me remind you all that if he ends up at Chelsea then do not be surprised or shocked.

This is the same Ronaldo who was about to end up at City last summer until we hijacked the deal.

At this stage of his career, a player as selfish as himself, will end up continuously surprising us all if he has a lack of options. Just like no one predicted he’d be back at United. Had United not swooped in, we would’ve seen him in sky blue.

I’m not saying Chelsea can necessarily afford him, in fact I actually don’t believe they can even if they wanted him. They just had 2 CBs leave on a free, potentially a third if Azpi doesn’t re-sign as well. (My facts aren’t up to date on Azpi though so someone please correct me if he’s already left etc).
On top of that, they just had to let Lukaku go for basically nothing after having spent a ton on him last summer. That leaves them in a huge mess.
If they’re supposedly signing Sterling, 2 CBs and potentially Raphinha, they will definitely have budget constraints after all that to be able to afford Ronaldo.

I obviously prefer he goes to Bayern where potential swaps are a possibility too but it’s also hard to see Bayern break their system for Ronaldo.
I mean, hell, they could’ve easily renewed Lewa’s contract but if they weren’t willing to accept his wage demands and the contractual timeline, why would they suddenly accept similar wage demands and similar contractual timeline for a player whose even older than Lewa!?
At the very least, Ronaldo would demand a 2 year contract and probably wouldn’t agree to just a one year contract, with wages between 20-25m, basically something close to his current wage if not the same amount. So if Bayern were going to make an exception, they probably would’ve succumbed to Lewa’s demands already.

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if PSG swoop in for him but it would probably only be if they can move on Neymar. Mbappe would love to play with Ronaldo (+Messi). And if there’s one thing I’m sure of even at his present age, it’s that Ronaldo would give more production over a season than Neymar ever does with his injuries etc. He would probably also cost less over his tenure at PSG than Neymar is costing them.

But anyways, the main theme of my post was to remind everyone whose statistically betting on him not ending up at Chelsea as compared to other clubs.
Chelsea are definitely not a far cry for Ronaldo. If anything, fans would marginally hate him less for going there than the blue half of our own damn city. And I’m sure he’ll have taken that into consideration as well. Sir Alex will probably not be calling him around this time if he finds out Ronaldo is headed to London as he did last summer for Manchester.

As far the clubs perspective goes, that’s the only thing that would keep Ronaldo from ending up at Chelsea even if he himself is fine with moving there. We would, end of the day, be strengthening a direct rival who, let’s be fair, will end up playing Ronaldo in place of Lukaku ffs. As old as Ronaldo may be, he’s still miles ahead of that incompetent bald head.
 
Get this sorted out immediately. This is the last thing we need to prepare for a new season. The moral and team spirit must be high and this unnecessary distraction must be avoided at all costs.

Let his ego and toxic nature go to other team.
 
sglowrider said:
And unlike Becks who is still beloved by most United fans, he knew how to manage his image post-United.
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Imo the whole difference is Becks actually loves United. I'm not a Becks fan btw.

Anyway imo Ronaldo is as good as gone. It's not like he'd care about but he has burned basically all the bridges with true United fans. His top priority is CL football. The narcissistic twat simply can't sleep if his biggest rival aka Messi play in the prestigious CL while he has to play in the Europa League. It would be killing him.

His second priority is finding a club capable of challenging for silverwares, especially CL. So Bayern, Chelsea, Barca and the likes are top of the list.

But if none of that list wants him he'll go back to Sporting with some nonsense like wanna comeback to his childhood club which he always loves. Of course he'd have to take a big pay cut but that's not a big problem given guy is fecking rich already. He's worth even more than some of the top clubs.

So, he's as good as gone I reckon. But this will probably drag on for a while as I don't think any of the top clubs would want him. They might want him if he'd accept a lesser role but that's simply impossible given his narcissistic nature and gigantic ego.
 
MrSingh2002 said:
We basically cost Ronaldo a Premier League win at 37 by not letting him join City last season.

Can't criticise him at all for wanting to move on now to try and get a trophy.
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"Not letting him join City" :lol: He was free to join City but they didn't want to pay a fee for him because they didn't think he was worth one and they weren't willing to offer him the wages United were because they didn't think he was worth those wages.

He chose the money, and convinced himself he could improve the team that had finished 2nd that season behind City. He came in, created a toxic environment, and we finished 6th and has our lowest points total in the premier league era.

Now he's throwing himself at every other club in Europe to see who would take him.
 
Isotope said:
Yeh. I'm confused of why people can not entertain the idea that Ronaldo is as frustrated as some of us fans with how United deal with the players in and out so far? He's been reported to want out since January. Maybe he's waiting to see if United is serious to back challenging next season, and he doesn't see it so decide to leave. As many agreed, he doesn't have much time left of his career.

So far what i read is just a bunch of hysterical full of hate posts drowning any non-conforming, albeit highly possible, opinions. Surprisingly, that include some of the usually calming posters. It's truly polemic.
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Yeah I don't really get it either to be honest, if he's frustrated and wants to leave just let him go. He has limited time left and wants to win a few more trophies and we can't currently offer that. Reading this thread you'd think we'd gone back in time to the first time he left, some really upset people in here for some reason.
 
Red Company said:
As much as I don’t want to see Ronaldo go to another PL team, let me remind you all that if he ends up at Chelsea then do not be surprised or shocked.

This is the same Ronaldo who was about to end up at City last summer until we hijacked the deal.

At this stage of his career, a player as selfish as himself, will end up continuously surprising us all if he has a lack of options. Just like no one predicted he’d be back at United. Had United not swooped in, we would’ve seen him in sky blue.

I’m not saying Chelsea can necessarily afford him, in fact I actually don’t believe they can even if they wanted him. They just had 2 CBs leave on a free, potentially a third if Azpi doesn’t re-sign as well. (My facts aren’t up to date on Azpi though so someone please correct me if he’s already left etc).
On top of that, they just had to let Lukaku go for basically nothing after having spent a ton on him last summer. That leaves them in a huge mess.
If they’re supposedly signing Sterling, 2 CBs and potentially Raphinha, they will definitely have budget constraints after all that to be able to afford Ronaldo.

I obviously prefer he goes to Bayern where potential swaps are a possibility too but it’s also hard to see Bayern break their system for Ronaldo.
I mean, hell, they could’ve easily renewed Lewa’s contract but if they weren’t willing to accept his wage demands and the contractual timeline, why would they suddenly accept similar wage demands and similar contractual timeline for a player whose even older than Lewa!?
At the very least, Ronaldo would demand a 2 year contract and probably wouldn’t agree to just a one year contract, with wages between 20-25m, basically something close to his current wage if not the same amount. So if Bayern were going to make an exception, they probably would’ve succumbed to Lewa’s demands already.

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if PSG swoop in for him but it would probably only be if they can move on Neymar. Mbappe would love to play with Ronaldo (+Messi). And if there’s one thing I’m sure of even at his present age, it’s that Ronaldo would give more production over a season than Neymar ever does with his injuries etc. He would probably also cost less over his tenure at PSG than Neymar is costing them.

But anyways, the main theme of my post was to remind everyone whose statistically betting on him not ending up at Chelsea as compared to other clubs.
Chelsea are definitely not a far cry for Ronaldo. If anything, fans would marginally hate him less for going there than the blue half of our own damn city. And I’m sure he’ll have taken that into consideration as well. Sir Alex will probably not be calling him around this time if he finds out Ronaldo is headed to London as he did last summer for Manchester.

As far the clubs perspective goes, that’s the only thing that would keep Ronaldo from ending up at Chelsea even if he himself is fine with moving there. We would, end of the day, be strengthening a direct rival who, let’s be fair, will end up playing Ronaldo in place of Lukaku ffs. As old as Ronaldo may be, he’s still miles ahead of that incompetent bald head.
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Would he really strengthen the other clubs who are already in the CL? Chelsea and Bayern are obvious choices since they will be losing their key striker. Other than scoring goals -- which in my view comes at the cost of others scoring since the manager has to change the shape of things to maximise Ronaldo's key attribute -- what does he bring to the table? Tuchel is of the same elk as Ralf's geggenpressing school. Ronaldo cant do that -- never did even with the 1st version of Ronolda. He always has someone behind him to make up for his lack of tracking back.

In the short term he maybe a bonus to some team but in the long run, his innate ability (ie his narcissistic personality) to cause disharmony within the teams he has been will be detrimental to any club who wants him now.
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
"Not letting him join City" :lol: He was free to join City but they didn't want to pay a fee for him because they didn't think he was worth one and they weren't willing to offer him the wages United were because they didn't think he was worth those wages.

He chose the money, and convinced himself he could improve the team that had finished 2nd that season behind City. He came in, created a toxic environment, and we finished 6th and has our lowest points total in the premier league era.

Now he's throwing himself at every other club in Europe to see who would take him.
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You are responding to a fanboi. Its pointless because in their minds Ronaldo > United.
 
crossy1686 said:
Yeah I don't really get it either to be honest, if he's frustrated and wants to leave just let him go. He has limited time left and wants to win a few more trophies and we can't currently offer that. Reading this thread you'd think we'd gone back in time to the first time he left, some really upset people in here for some reason.
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His conduct has been unprofessional and selfish which is what's upsetting people, most in this thread actually want him to leave.
 
sglowrider said:
Would he really strengthen the other clubs who are already in the CL? Chelsea and Bayern are obvious choices since they will be losing their key striker. Other than scoring goals -- which in my view comes at the cost of others scoring since the manager has to change the shape of things to maximise Ronaldo's key attribute -- what does he bring to the table? Tuchel is of the same elk as Ralf's geggenpressing school. Ronaldo cant do that -- never did even with the 1st version of Ronolda. He always has someone behind him to make up for his lack of tracking back.

In the short term he maybe a bonus to some team but in the long run, his innate ability (ie his narcissistic personality) to cause disharmony within the teams he has been will be detrimental to any club who wants him now.
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I think the answer to your post is in your question only. It’s not about strengthening. It’s about getting to play in UCL first and foremost.
 
Sepukku said:
I think he will go to Bayern. Im happy for a fresh start without him. I think things will eventually pick up for everybody.
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Becks00 said:
Please take Ronaldo :(

You can also send us Gnabry if he's causing too much trouble:D

Come on Bayern, take one for the good of the game. The entire football fan base would be very grateful.
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croadyman said:
Yeah come on Bayern everybody's happy then
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amolbhatia50k said:
I think Bayern is a good fit. He can pad his stats endlessly and maybe they get his best in the CL.
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moses said:
Oh if Bayern are really interested the club will defo push for that option. Without a doubt.
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Mr Pigeon said:
If he went to Bayern then there's a possibility he can win the league and Champions League in yet another country. It would secure his legacy as the GOAT.

But he'll also secure his legacy as King of Bellends after waiting until fecking July to suddenly down tools at the last second when we're in the middle of rebuilding the squad. cnut
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There's zero chance Ronaldo joins Bayern, you can erase that thought right now. Not going to happen.

Anyway I think he'll stay.
 
Idxomer said:
His conduct has been unprofessional and selfish which is what's upsetting people, most in this thread actually want him to leave.
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Has it though? Alright, he hasn't turned up for pre-season for 'family reasons' whatever that means, but that could be genuine. The last time he said that people gave him shit and it turns out one of his kids had died so I'll chose to believe that there's a chance he's not turned up for legitimate reasons, and in regards to selfish, I'd say it's more that he has a legitimate chance of winning major silverware still at his age so why would he stay at United and hold our hand? Aren't we selfish for expecting him to just piss away the last couple of years of his career at the top to help us maybe be competitive again? From what we read half the first team don't like him anyway so maybe it's best that he goes, I don't think I can handle another season like last year.
 
crossy1686 said:
Has it though? Alright, he hasn't turned up for pre-season for 'family reasons' whatever that means, but that could be genuine. The last time he said that people gave him shit and it turns out one of his kids had died so I'll chose to believe that there's a chance he's not turned up for legitimate reasons, and in regards to selfish, I'd say it's more that he has a legitimate chance of winning major silverware still at his age so why would he stay at United and hold our hand? Aren't we selfish for expecting him to just piss away the last couple of years of his career at the top to help us maybe be competitive again? From what we read half the first team don't like him anyway so maybe it's best that he goes, I don't think I can handle another season like last year.
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1) You're right, we need to be careful before making a premature assessment of the situation, considering what occured before.
2)If it's truly about him wanting to leave and nothing else, I can understand fans being pissed off as the news is out more than a month into the transfer window. It would feel like a lot of time has been wasted for nothing
 
He's self-serving, first and foremost. It's unfortunate that he can't accept the inevitable march of time, as far as his footballing career is concerned.

If he wants to go, he should have told the club as soon as it was clear we weren't getting CL football next season. He'd happily walk away and leave us with a big problem, and he wouldn't look back once.
 
Good riddance. Could never warm to the bloke since the slave comments and I'm glad to not have to pretend I like him because he plays for United anymore. Should've joined city.
 
Let's put Ronaldo's season into context, he scored about three goals more from centre forward than Rashford did the previous season from the wing (while injured). Was he really carrying the team? He has the worst pressing stats in the league, spending most of the season goal-hanging like a school bully who burned through more calories gesticulating than he did running. The end result was the team dropping four places and losing all coherence in a set-up seemingly designed to turn back time for one man and his ego.

Despite some fun moments for the fans and 20 or 30 seconds of additional material for Ronaldo's sizzle reel, it was an absolute disaster of a signing and a key factor in the wheels falling off last season. People suggesting he could get another Ballon d'Or need their head feeling, he's a fraction of the player who he once was and this was obvious 12 months ago. Woodward's final stab at Disneyland was no more successful than his first, delivering social media followers and shifting a ton of shirts with absolutely no consideration for football. Rio Ferdinand, Sir Alex et al should never be involved in this transfer, it's everything that's been wrong with this club since The Glazers took over.

All this nonsense about 'betrayal' and him loving or not loving the club, are you kidding me? It's Ronaldo, he's never loved anything other than himself. The 'pro's pro'? Is he feck. Does he train hard and look after himself? Yeah, professional in that respect, but look at his whining, the way he talks to his teammates, the tantrums and his late-career habit of walking out on his club. That's not a pro, that's a narcissist who's barely concealing their impending midlife crisis. Getting paid half a million pound a week and decides not to turn up to pre-season training? That's not professional, it's a disgrace.

We were nowhere near good enough to indulge in this Hollywood transfer and instead of elevating the team, it's destroyed it.

I could not care less where he goes.
 
crossy1686 said:
Has it though? Alright, he hasn't turned up for pre-season for 'family reasons' whatever that means, but that could be genuine. The last time he said that people gave him shit and it turns out one of his kids had died so I'll chose to believe that there's a chance he's not turned up for legitimate reasons, and in regards to selfish, I'd say it's more that he has a legitimate chance of winning major silverware still at his age so why would he stay at United and hold our hand? Aren't we selfish for expecting him to just piss away the last couple of years of his career at the top to help us maybe be competitive again? From what we read half the first team don't like him anyway so maybe it's best that he goes, I don't think I can handle another season like last year.
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I guess you never heard of the word contract?
 
Ted Lasso said:
Actually, no. You're just a misinformed poster who has jumped into a back and forth without knowing any of the context.

If I had to brand you as anything, it would be a trigger happy bully jumping onto the coattails of a site admin who also completely misunderstood a post and reacted with a unnecessarily condescending post @roonster09

But like I said as a newbie not long ago, this site is a mix of good people with etiquette being outvoiced by general nastiness.
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:lol:

Look at you go.
 
Revaulx said:
#MeToo

And I’m not a Ronaldo hater in the slightest; I wish him all the best, though I do think his insistence on playing every minute will make him a burden to his new club. His fanboys are something else though :eek:
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I'm not a hater also, on the contrary, was happy when he returned and supported him all season. But this is a dick move, if he wanted to leave he should have announced right after the season ended. Acting now means we need to change plans 4 days before the preseason tour and I wouldn't be surprised if he missed training the whole week. Yet some would say he's a pro's pro or something. He's a pro's pro when he suits him and his agenda, always acts above the club wherever he is. All right he's the best or one of the best in the world, some would say in history but that doesnt give him the right to act like a grade A primadona and to fek the club he supposedly so loves (according to his fans) like this.

Anyway I dont see him going to Bayern, they always seems sensible with their spending and transfers and getting Ronaldo would be complete opposite to that.
 


I am starting to think he was genuinely ok with staying until he was told by ETH he will not be a starter. I hope he leaves, cant stand him.



Goldbridge burned by Phiiiiil :lol: .
 
crossy1686 said:
Yeah I don't really get it either to be honest, if he's frustrated and wants to leave just let him go. He has limited time left and wants to win a few more trophies and we can't currently offer that. Reading this thread you'd think we'd gone back in time to the first time he left, some really upset people in here for some reason.
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Him leaving per se isnt a problem, timing is a problem. And the fact he wont even talk face to face to ETH it seems.
 
Giggsyking said:


I am starting to think he was genuinely ok with staying until he was told by ETH he will not be a starter. I hope he leaves, cant stand him.



Goldbridge burned by Phiiiiil :lol: .
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Oh the good old he's waiting to see who we will sign and does the club have ambition stuff.
 
I’ve been giving this matter some thought. The conclusion I’ve come to is Ronaldo is going nowhere. No matter how much crying he does.
Why?
Under the Glazer regime, Manchester United PLC shares have never been lower.
At a time when commercial interest is deteriorating to such an extent that they are struggling to hold on to current deals let alone find new ones. When the release of the new kit had to be put back due to the perceived lack of interest, the club’s inability to get even the most basic of transfer over the line, a player like Ronaldo wanting to leave will hamper that further. But more so and probably most importantly, the continuous bombardment of attacks on the clubs’ commercial partners doesn’t seem to be dwindling nor does the matchday protests.
Because of that there is no way in hell they are going to allow their two poster boys in Pogba and Ronaldo to leave the club at the same time.

The only saving grace could be a “star” signing but what big name player is going to join the s**t show that we have become?
Ronaldo is going to have to bite and bear it. However, an unhappy Ronaldo in the dressing room will create more problems than him leaving ever would.
 
It's annoying that pre season will be disrupted by everyone giving the self obsessed moron so much attention. All eyes should be on Ten Hag and an exciting new era. Can't wait for the first press conference where every question is about Ronaldo
 
crossy1686 said:
If you’ve got to pay someone to love you then I would suggest you’re a fool for thinking it’s ever been genuine.

I’m sure Ronaldo is fond of United, but if people think a player loves any club over the potential chance to become the greatest player ever to grace the game then you’re kidding yourself. How many players have ever had that chance and took it?
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Which goes back to my original point, which you commented on, CR7 hasn't ever really "loved" United and that narrative is tiresome.
 
I just don’t see him going to Chelsea. Bayern I get but Chelsea makes zero sense.
 
Real Name said:
Him leaving per se isnt a problem, timing is a problem. And the fact he wont even talk face to face to ETH it seems.
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Yeah the timing is a bit shitty, but then again everyone's been on holiday so there wouldn't have been much movement. I suspect Mendes has been speaking to clubs on his behalf for a while though, he's just decided to go public now most likely.
 
If he goes to Chelsea he’ll get booed like crazy when he comes to old Trafford.

from constant viva Ronaldo to that. Doubt he cares though.
 
red thru&thru said:
Which goes back to my original point, which you commented on, CR7 hasn't ever really "loved" United and that narrative is tiresome.
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Have people been saying he does? I think we all need to move past this notion that players 'love' clubs. They'll go where ever they get paid the most and have the best chance of winning stuff.
 
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