Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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What Fergie and Rio want is irrelevant, and if you read reports, even Ole was averse to him. Again, it’s a vanity signing by the idiotic Woodward.

Also, I sincerely doubt my comments on this forum will have a toxic knock on effect to the club. Just as your blind faith in Ronaldo will have a positive knock on effect. We’re not that important.

Could have sworn ole was one of the convincing factors for him to join and Ole talked about it as well.

Time to end this myth of Ronaldo as the Boogeyman
 
Once TDD is behind us, Ronaldo will buckle down and lead like a leader. No chance does he allow his reputation to be sullied by being displaced by Martial.
 
Ronaldo may be playing 4D chess here.

Piss off everyone so he gets benched, and then he can conserve his energy for the World Cup.
He loves Portugal far more than any club he's ever played for. And this is probably his last WC, so he'd want to be as sharp as possible for it.
he wont get sharp by sitting on the bench, he needs games and here is is not going to get many full games, he is a bit player now sat on the subs bench.
 
If we're stuck with him we'll just have to make the most of it. Hopefully he'll be professional as and when he's benched, which should be relatively regularly, and we'll move on next summer.
 
I think we would be better if he left and took his circus with him. But if he's staying then I'm rooting for him as well as our other players - provided he can be arsed to work on the pitch.
 
Once TDD is behind us, Ronaldo will buckle down and lead like a leader. No chance does he allow his reputation to be sullied by being displaced by Martial.
This. We can all see that it was a huge mistake bringing the guy back but here we are. I've said it before, he'll be out to prove all sorts of points to all sorts of people this coming season and, contrary to what a lot think, I even think he'll start most games. The guy get's the ball in the net better than anyone else in our team. He'll have much better service this year. Then, hopefully, he'll be gone next year leaving us more time to scout for a proper replacement. I still have too many doubts to really rally behind Rashford or Martial.

Ronaldo will be on fire inside after this recent humiliation. He will have Haaland and Kane in his sights.
 
Finally we can focus on the guy's football once again. Hopefully we can come here end of season and feel like he's still contributed despite all the summer shenanigans.

Edit: ˆ agreed with the above
 
Could have sworn ole was one of the convincing factors for him to join and Ole talked about it as well.

Time to end this myth of Ronaldo as the Boogeyman
There’s an that was doing the rounds recently that intimated Ole didn’t want him either. I’ll try and find it.
 
This. We can all see that it was a huge mistake bringing the guy back but here we are. I've said it before, he'll be out to prove all sorts of points to all sorts of people this coming season and, contrary to what a lot think, I even think he'll start most games. The guy get's the ball in the net better than anyone else in our team. He'll have much better service this year. Then, hopefully, he'll be gone next year leaving us more time to scout for a proper replacement. I still have too many doubts to really rally behind Rashford or Martial.

Ronaldo will be on fire inside after this recent humiliation. He will have Haaland and Kane in his sights.

He better not be a regular starter!

With Ronaldo in the team we cannot press from the front, so the whole pressing system falls down!

Unless Ronaldo is prepared to follow the managers instructions then he shouldn't be starting games.
 
Could have sworn ole was one of the convincing factors for him to join and Ole talked about it as well.

Time to end this myth of Ronaldo as the Boogeyman
Ole was the chairman of the board of United nostalgia, of course he wanted him.
 
This. We can all see that it was a huge mistake bringing the guy back but here we are. I've said it before, he'll be out to prove all sorts of points to all sorts of people this coming season and, contrary to what a lot think, I even think he'll start most games. The guy get's the ball in the net better than anyone else in our team. He'll have much better service this year. Then, hopefully, he'll be gone next year leaving us more time to scout for a proper replacement. I still have too many doubts to really rally behind Rashford or Martial.

Ronaldo will be on fire inside after this recent humiliation. He will have Haaland and Kane in his sights.
If martial is fit I think he starts.
So yeah ronaldo will start most games unfortunately…….
 
The point remains that most wanted him back. And yes, negative narratives and those that constantly revel in them do eventually have a cumulative effect across forums, social media, and the like. They are what expedited the departures of several post-Fergie managers.
Most?

Again, whether Fergie, Rio, or the Queen of England wanted him back is irrelevant. The only reason he is back is because of an idiotic decision by Woodward.

And again, what you and I talk about on a forum has very little real world effect.
 
Most?

Again, whether Fergie, Rio, or the Queen of England wanted him back is irrelevant. The only reason he is back is because of an idiotic decision by Woodward.

And again, what you and I talk about on a forum has very little real world effect.

Woodward was only one cog in the equation. It was a team effort to bring him back, which involved backchannels with players, Fergie and others. Most were excited that he came back and went out of their way to make it happen.
 
He better not be a regular starter!

With Ronaldo in the team we cannot press from the front, so the whole pressing system falls down!

Unless Ronaldo is prepared to follow the managers instructions then he shouldn't be starting games.
Personally, I think he will be. Saying that, and much as I disapprove of Ronaldo and acknowledge he's getting too old for what ETH wants, I have more faith in him to get results on the pitch than Rashford or Martial. Rashford has a way to go before he's 'pressing from the front' and as for Martial, well ... he has a lot to do to prove he's worth anything. Got bored of watching him ages ago. As always though, I always love being proved wrong!
 
Most?

Again, whether Fergie, Rio, or the Queen of England wanted him back is irrelevant. The only reason he is back is because of an idiotic decision by Woodward.

And again, what you and I talk about on a forum has very little real world effect.

That's just not true. Again, look back on Ole's interviews he was delighted to have Ronaldo back. Not only that, he kept starting him even in games that he desperately needed a win. Ole was never against Ronaldo and saw him as the final piece to his project or whatever. I haven't seen any evidence that he was.
 
That's just not true. Again, look back on Ole's interviews he was delighted to have Ronaldo back. Not only that, he kept starting him even in games that he desperately needed a win. Ole was never against Ronaldo and saw him as the final piece to his project or whatever. I haven't seen any evidence that he was.

Surely repeating something you've convinced yourself to be true, eventually becomes true ?
 
Yeah, seems like Ronnie has given up. I think his position at the club after what has gine on this summer is severely weakened.
 
Personally, I think he will be. Saying that, and much as I disapprove of Ronaldo and acknowledge he's getting too old for what ETH wants, I have more faith in him to get results on the pitch than Rashford or Martial. Rashford has a way to go before he's 'pressing from the front' and as for Martial, well ... he has a lot to do to prove he's worth anything. Got bored of watching him ages ago. As always though, I always love being proved wrong!

I think Rashford is more likely to follow the managers instructions though. A front three of Sancho, Rashford and Anthony should be the way to go with Ronaldo used off the bench if we need a goal.
 
Yeah, seems like Ronnie has given up. I think his position at the club after what has gine on this summer is severely weakened.
No matter what he does at United now, he’ll still be regarded a Madrid legend. Won’t affect his legacy at all.
 
No matter what he does at United now, he’ll still be regarded a Madrid legend. Won’t affect his legacy at all.
I am not talking about his status as a legend. I am talking about his position within the team and with Ten Hag.
 
Yeah. Let's ruin the football club for the lols.
Ronaldo is not ruining anything. You have admitted on this forum that you are a messi fan, so just keep spouting nonsense about Ronaldo here. He is a ManUtd player. You should be rooting for him.
 
Surely repeating something you've convinced yourself to be true, eventually becomes true ?
I think that's true for a lot of posters in here regarding Ronaldo. Both those who defend him and those to dislike him.
 
Ronaldo is not ruining anything. You have admitted on this forum that you are a messi fan, so just keep spouting nonsense about Ronaldo here. He is a ManUtd player. You should be rooting for him.
Personally I'll root for him when he can be arsed to make an effort.
 
Personally I'll root for him when he can be arsed to make an effort.
Ok honesty time, what gives you the impression he is not making an effort? He didn’t start the first game and looked decent when he came on. Everyone was awful against brentford. Then he had limited minutes against pool, and a bad performance against southampton again as a sub. From everything we know, he is training perfectly normally. So yes, how do you know he is not putting in effort?
 
He staying then?

We're obviously not going to get a CF to replace him so I presume he's had to stay put.

A pure rat move if he leaves tomorrow. Right on fecking deadline day.
 
Woodward was only one cog in the equation. It was a team effort to bring him back, which involved backchannels with players, Fergie and others. Most were excited that he came back and went out of their way to make it happen.

You keep making this argument.

I believe I called it a rather odd appeal to authority in another thread (or possibly this one) - and...it is.

In what world is anyone who has been involved with recent Manchester United transfer activity a plausible authority (to appeal to)? Our transfer policy has been horrible for years.

The fact that multiple people associated with Manchester United worked on the Ronaldo transfer means...what?

I'm not entirely sure what you're actually arguing here:

Fans * wanted him, Woodward thought it was a good idea, Fergie was involved, the Glazers paid for it - so it was a good idea? Is that the argument - or am I missing something?

* By no means all fans - as has been mentioned many times already, a considerable number of United fans (on here and elsewhere) did not want Ronaldo prior to the transfer.
 
Ronaldo is not ruining anything. You have admitted on this forum that you are a messi fan, so just keep spouting nonsense about Ronaldo here. He is a ManUtd player. You should be rooting for him.
I root for Manchester United. It's not in our interest to have on our books a 38 year old who is one of the best paid footballers in the world. Absurd levels or stupidity to do that.

I'm not really a Messi fan. But like many people think he's better than Ronaldo. You don't need to hold a view either way to know that we shouldn't pay a fortune in wages to Ronaldo for another year.
 
Ok honesty time, what gives you the impression he is not making an effort? He didn’t start the first game and looked decent when he came on. Everyone was awful against brentford. Then he had limited minutes against pool, and a bad performance against southampton again as a sub. From everything we know, he is training perfectly normally. So yes, how do you know he is not putting in effort?
20 mins against Liverpool is a long time not to press or run. His sub against S'hampton was another no show.
I don't hate the guy, but I dislike players not trying. If you get 20 mins of game time then you work your ass of for those 20 mins.
You try being honest. You've been impressed with his will to fight for United?
 
I root for Manchester United. It's not in our interest to have on our books a 38 year old who is one of the best paid footballers in the world. Absurd levels or stupidity to do that.

I'm not really a Messi fan. But like many people think he's better than Ronaldo. You don't need to hold a view either way to know that we shouldn't pay a fortune in wages to Ronaldo for another year.
How is it not in our interest? The guy was our top scorer. We have no reliable scorer other than him in the squad. If we signed a striker this year, I absolutely agree with you- he isn’t the future. But with the squad being what it is, it is absolutely in our best interest to have a fit and motivated Ronaldo get us 25-30 goals.

As for the Messi stuff I’ll leave that out of here, hate that debate. We’re lucky to have seen both of them play at once in our lifetimes.
 
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