Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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As much as I agree that Maguire is a problem and should not be a captain - it's quotes like that from Ronaldo that will sway a lot of fans to "he was right all the time". I guess they, Ronaldos entourage, could slip a lot of populistic quotes from Ronaldo which he "did" during last season to show that he really "cares" for the club.

British tabloids and media is such a shitty establishment in that regard.
You should read the full article then, it doesn’t really paint Ronaldo in a positive light.
 
This is going to come back to bite us. Our team firing improbable balls to Ronaldo all match long is going to be infuriating.
We've dropped him for two games so there's no reason to think he will be crowbared in
 
Difference here Antony was desperate to join us. Ronaldo is the opposite.

Absolutely clearly it has nothing to do with the fact his agent has spent around a month trying to get a deal for him to be at a CL club unsuccessfully it must just be he now suddenly is 100% top red.

It’s posts like this that make me worry for the fan base.

Well I'm coming from the perspective that I think the majority of players at the club currently and basically at most top/big clubs aren't there because of their burning passion to be there but because it's the best fit for them at the time. In the same way when a club decides they're done with a player they do what they can to offload them whether that player is keen for it or not. If you're only willing to accept players who want United above anyone else then we're gonna have a hard time getting players hence why we seem to have to be pay more wages than most.

Clearly I'd rather have players who were keen to be here as well but I also think Ronaldo is a bit of an exception in that he is so driven by his own individual metrics that I think if he does stay here I'm confident he won't down tools (he didn't last year when things were bad) and can contribute better than any replacement we're likely to get could. That said if behind the scenes he's really alienated people to the point where him being here is detrimental then I would have no issues with us getting rid.
 
Memphis isn’t the long term answer but that’s not true at all - he’s very good at linking everything up and is a very different player than when he was here. He’s not a top top level striker but he’d offer more than 37 year old Ronaldo.
Could give him another chance, yes.
 
He is if the question is what 28 year old former Manchester United player could we conceivably sign as a forward option for very little money to tide us over for a season or 2 until a younger player presents them self as a long term forward option?

Might need a bit of work but:p
We might be able to loan someone out for a season. If we could get a younger Cavani it would be nice.
 
This is going to come back to bite us. Our team firing improbable balls to Ronaldo all match long is going to be infuriating.
He doesn't have any offers. What exactly is ETH supposed to say at this point of time ? CR7 isn't good enough and I will be benching him ?
 
Doesn’t seem to be a market for a washed up 38 year old, who doesn’t offer much play wise and will need north of £350k a week. Surprise indeed!

But apparently there was one 12 months ago in which a big club was willing to pay nearly 500k a week for such a player. City were also snooping around. Sometimes its best to just let it go and get behind the player.
 
But apparently there was one 12 months ago in which a big club was willing to pay nearly 500k a week for such a player. City were also snooping around. Sometimes its best to just let it go and get behind the player.
Let’s be honest - it was a vanity signing by Ed Woodward. One of the most incompetent and out of depth individuals the football landscape has seen.

Also, I’m not sure there was any real City interest.
 
Let’s be honest - it was a vanity signing by Ed Woodward. One of the most incompetent and out of depth individuals the football landscape has seen.

Also, I’m not sure there was any real City interest.

It was widely wanted by most at the time, including much of the fan base who were very happy to see him back. Everyone from Fergie to Rio to Ole to the players and fans were excited at his return. There comes a point where continuing to criticize him has a toxic knock on effect to the club, which is why its best to move and enjoy what will probably be a very good year for us.
 
It was widely wanted by most at the time, including much of the fan base who were very happy to see him back. Everyone from Fergie to Rio to Ole to the players and fans were excited at his return. There comes a point where continuing to criticize him has a toxic knock on effect to the club, which is why its best to move and enjoy what will probably be a very good year for us.
What Fergie and Rio want is irrelevant, and if you read reports, even Ole was averse to him. Again, it’s a vanity signing by the idiotic Woodward.

Also, I sincerely doubt my comments on this forum will have a toxic knock on effect to the club. Just as your blind faith in Ronaldo will have a positive knock on effect. We’re not that important.
 
Well, hopefully this lack of interest from other clubs will have motivated him or brought some reality to his life.

If he can't be bothered to put some effort in his place, that'll say a lot about his professionalism. His ego taking a hit because no big club wants him shouldn't mean that he sulks all season long. But it is Ronaldo, and anything is possible when we are talking about a diva like that.
 
It was widely wanted by most at the time, including much of the fan base who were very happy to see him back. Everyone from Fergie to Rio to Ole to the players and fans were excited at his return. There comes a point where continuing to criticize him has a toxic knock on effect to the club, which is why its best to move and enjoy what will probably be a very good year for us.
Couldn't agree more here and trying to view everything through a Ronaldo lens, even though the same people would tell us "no ones bigger than the club". Just move forward and enjoy having him in the squad.
 
What Fergie and Rio want is irrelevant, and if you read reports, even Ole was averse to him. Again, it’s a vanity signing by the idiotic Woodward.

Also, I sincerely doubt my comments on this forum will have a toxic knock on effect to the club. Just as your blind faith in Ronaldo will have a positive knock on effect. We’re not that important.

The point remains that most wanted him back. And yes, negative narratives and those that constantly revel in them do eventually have a cumulative effect across forums, social media, and the like. They are what expedited the departures of several post-Fergie managers.
 
Delighted he is staying and gets a chance to play alongside Antony for a season. Old Trafford will always be entertaining with the two of them :D.

Hopefully no last minute sting in the tail - I've a feeling Chelsea go for him.
 
He doesn't have any offers. What exactly is ETH supposed to say at this point of time ? CR7 isn't good enough and I will be benching him ?
There isn't anything differently anyone can do/say in this situation other than Ronaldo taking a paycut. I just don't think it will be healthy for the team.
 
Didn’t we terminate Keane’s contract after the season had started? I vaguely remember it being at a weird time mid season after he’d been slagging off our players
 
He has probably requested to not play in Europa League games
I highly doubt it. Two minnows in there who he can score a bunch against and get his season goal tally up

Also I can’t genuinely see Ronaldo asking not to play matches

Going to be so weird seeing Varane, Casemiro and Ronaldo (3 staples of that dominant CL serial winning Madrid team) in the Europa League this season
 
Well I'm coming from the perspective that I think the majority of players at the club currently and basically at most top/big clubs aren't there because of their burning passion to be there but because it's the best fit for them at the time. In the same way when a club decides they're done with a player they do what they can to offload them whether that player is keen for it or not. If you're only willing to accept players who want United above anyone else then we're gonna have a hard time getting players hence why we seem to have to be pay more wages than most.

Clearly I'd rather have players who were keen to be here as well but I also think Ronaldo is a bit of an exception in that he is so driven by his own individual metrics that I think if he does stay here I'm confident he won't down tools (he didn't last year when things were bad) and can contribute better than any replacement we're likely to get could. That said if behind the scenes he's really alienated people to the point where him being here is detrimental then I would have no issues with us getting rid.
And I’d be inclined to agree with that initial perspective but also that’s not really what I was arguing against more the comparison between the two players. I am a United fan so I have little issue with players desperately wanting to join us.

I’ve never once said I only want players who want us above anyone else I’m merely pointing out that the situation between Ronaldo wanting to leave desperately then suddenly failing to do so and essentially putting up with being here isn’t in anyway the same as Antony as realistically I largely don’t care about Antony forcing a move to us but I’d be more annoyed at a player trying to force an exit (although personally I’d be happy for Ronaldo to leave)

I agree if (and it’s an if that gets bigger for me as this goes on) Ronaldo can get in line and get behind what ten Hag is trying to build then a reasonably respectable end to his United association can be had and given we have no choice but to keep him now I hope this is what happens.

My concern with this going forward is how someone like Ronaldo navigates being a possible bench player for 5/6 months minimum in the build up to a Wwhen everyone is fit in a system not designed just for his benefit with a manger who has already dropped him.

Regrettably I think we’ll be having months of camera pans to Ronaldo every time a shot goes wide etc and I just don’t think the drama is now worth the output (even if a lot of it could just be media malarkey)
We might be able to loan someone out for a season. If we could get a younger Cavani it would be nice.
Any suggestions for this mythical loanee?
 
Ronaldo may be playing 4D chess here.

Piss off everyone so he gets benched, and then he can conserve his energy for the World Cup.
He loves Portugal far more than any club he's ever played for. And this is probably his last WC, so he'd want to be as sharp as possible for it.
 
Ronaldo may be playing 4D chess here.

Piss off everyone so he gets benched, and then he can conserve his energy for the World Cup.
He loves Portugal far more than any club he's ever played for. And this is probably his last WC, so he'd want to be as sharp as possible for it.
You don't get sharp by sitting on the bench.
 
Ronaldo may be playing 4D chess here.

Piss off everyone so he gets benched, and then he can conserve his energy for the World Cup.
He loves Portugal far more than any club he's ever played for. And this is probably his last WC, so he'd want to be as sharp as possible for it.
Or does he love the idea of winning the one thing Leo never has
 
You don't get sharp by sitting on the bench.

I'm sure he's gonna get games/game time, but he won't be getting run down like when Rangnick was playing him 2x a week.

Or does he love the idea of winning the one thing Leo never has

Yeah, that too. But I don't wanna risk triggering another CR7/Leo debate. I only have 5 posts, after all.
 
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Ronaldo may be playing 4D chess here.

Piss off everyone so he gets benched, and then he can conserve his energy for the World Cup.
He loves Portugal far more than any club he's ever played for. And this is probably his last WC, so he'd want to be as sharp as possible for it.

He has zero goal contributions in world cup knockout stages and Portugal have not won a single knockout match since he took over as the best player.
 
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