They've spend a fortune every single summer for eight years.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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Could it be that he has changed his mind a bit after seeing the latest transfers the club has done? Maybe he wants to stay and play with Casemiro (again) and now Antony?
That's not true. Jose Mourinhos last season was something like 50 odd million or something. Ole's 2nd season was something like 75 million. David Moyes only transfer was Fellini. Glazers only spend big when they want champions league football or are desperate. The line of they spent a fortune for 8 years is horseshit.
Well the Glazers weren't showing ambition. I get Ronaldos thinking there because our targets were fecking Arnaoutivic and Rabiot. Glazers then shit the bed after the whole Jim Ratcliffe wanting to buy the club.
1.92 billion has been spent on transfers in glazer era.
They haven’t spent anything. They’ve allowed us to spend our own money. They don’t invest in the club at all.
Seems people still struggle to get that point through their head.
Oh my freaking God. I don't give a crap. Its a freaking fact that our net spend was low in Mourinhos 3rd season, Ole's 2nd season and Moyes 1st season. There is probably more occasions but I probably can't think of them. Need to go back and actually check before making a stupid post like that
And How much money have the club revenued in the Glazer era? They spend clubs money, not their own.
I don't get it. Why are people forgetting the transfer windows when our net spend was under 100 million. Don't mean to be rude but they are idiots.
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Difference here Antony was desperate to join us. Ronaldo is the opposite.
Absolutely clearly it has nothing to do with the fact his agent has spent around a month trying to get a deal for him to be at a CL club unsuccessfully it must just be he now suddenly is 100% top red.
It’s posts like this that make me worry for the fan base.
You know what I mean.
Did we not have a net spend of under 100 million euros during the transfer windows i mentioned. Moyes 1st season, Mourinhos 3rd season and Oles 2nd season? There is probably more.
Come on, man, according to Transfermarkt we spent 75 million in 13/14, 149 million in 14/15, 55 million in 15/16, 138 million in 16/17, 153 million in 17/18, 52 in 18/19, 154 in 19/20, 64 in 20/21, 109 in 21/22 and 225 this summer. That's net spend, of which we have the highest in Europe these past 10 years.
There are plenty of problems with the Glazers' ownership. But the myth that we don't spend enough on transfers is demonstrably false and needs to die.
Right so you think 55 million, 75 million, 64 million and 62 million is a great net spend then. Considering inflation in the transfer market and that money gets you sod all even back then. Thanks you just proved my point and made yourself look like an idiot
Not many owners spend money out of their own pocket unless they're oil run state club. Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs owners all spend money from the club's profits.
Look at the bigger picture, please. Biggest net spend in the world the past ten years. It's ridiculous to pick out one or two seasons as evidence, no team spend the same about every summer. For instance, we're the only team without a positive net spend summer. Anyway, you are clearly delusional, no point discussing with you.
Your delusional in the fact your defending the Glazers. More to running a club than spending money on players. Has to be spent on the infrastructure like the stadium etc which they haven't. Plus they loaded debt on the club and took around a billion out. That billion could of spent on the playing squad and the infrastructure.
You're moving the goalposts again. I'm not defending anyone, I'm arguing against delusional people who refuse to acknowledge undeniable facts because it doesn't suit their narrative. The Glazers are bad owners – but not because they don't make transfer funds available aplenty, they do.
I still feel bad for being ignored by so many for making a thread about not wanting Ronaldo to sign a year ago.
No way to tell those people though
I just saw the latest saga about Ronaldo's show and tell in September. So I did some searches on what people were saying when he was about to be signed. And found your thread, that was subsequently and quickly closed. It mirrored the things I was saying and thinking at the time (yeah, sorry about that
).I suppose there's no cure for blind fan bias, whomever you support. You were spot on in your thread mate, except for your belief that Ole was doing the right thing(s).
Like I said, no cure for fan bias. Actually in isolation, those are low spend years sandwiched between higher spend years. So in principle yes we should have gotten something back - we got f all and that comes back to the recruitment process
what people seem to omit is how from 2002 onwards we reduced our overall spending significantly and we had an ageing team in the last decade. The likes of Rio, Vidic, Giggs etc left the club and after years of moderate spending (for bench warmers) the club needed some serious injection of cash.
Our net spend in the past 20 years is lesser than both City and Chelsea and just over Liverpool.
I just find the argument of the Glazers have spent alot to be wrong. As you said our net spend has been below City and Chelsea and just over Liverpool
Spending has not been the issue under the Glazers. It's the quality of the spending that is the issue.
And the managers and CEO take a lot of blame for that one. Di Maria, Maguire, AWB, Pogba... awful awful waste of money.
And now that Ten Hag/Murtough has spent god knows how much this summer, I hope they have a bigger clue that Woodward/Ole/Jose/Van Gaal
And the managers and CEO take a lot of blame for that one. Di Maria, Maguire, AWB, Pogba... awful awful waste of money.
And now that Ten Hag/Murtough has spent god knows how much this summer, I hope they have a bigger clue that Woodward/Ole/Jose/Van Gaal
No I am not. I am furthering my argument to say if the Glazers didn't take around 1 billion from the club, we could of spent more.
It's a bit mental people can't get the significance of us having the highest net spend in the world for a decade.
Believe this is whats called a straw-man argument.
Do people say the Glazers don't make transfer funds available? No. they cant. the club has spent a lot of money on players, but the Glazers haven't. Funds have come from within the business, not from injections from the Glazers.
A perfectly valid criticism, not delusional.
I love it when threads get derailed.
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Can we PLEASE get back on to Ronaldo and his Penis enlargement!
First thing tomorrow is going to be an Insta post from Ronnie, decrying "media lies", how he's always been a Red Devil fo life, how he's looking forward to lead the team to greener pastures, and how he hopes to be with your side to a long time to come.
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It’s an i-penis. It connects to his smartwatch and provides live bendy-ness measurements (sius per second)
Makes sense why he wouldnt want to take a pay-cut now... that sounds pricey.
100%. It also doesn’t speak highly of those who fell for it.
Oh yes, people do say that. Plenty of people do.
And no, the Glazers don't put up the money themselves ... as most owners don't. In a way that's not how a sustainable business is supposed to work, the expenditure should be generated by the revenue. You could argue the Glazers should invest their own money as compensation for the dividends they take out of the club ... but again, the real problem is that they do take out the dividends, not that they don't invest their own money.
Well, thank feck you're not rude.
We'd probably spend that on the stadium or general club infrastructure to be honest. Though the question is whether the toxic fan base would actually be happy with that, or whether they'd want it all invested in new transfers. It's clearly never enough for some people.
Please take this shit in Glazers thread.
Oh it's nice to see the amount spent on transfers just about eclipses the amount spent servicing the owners debts.
I should have put money on this...
Yeah, I don't get why City's fans aren't rioting right now, seeing as they have a positive net spend this summer. Bunch of idiots.
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