Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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ETH will be pestered with Ronaldo questions throughout the season. Pundits will be lating into our players like never before after any bad game that Ronnie doesn't start. It's a sideshow the club does not need.
Will he though? That's only if Ronaldo just goes on strike or he flat our refuse to play him, both of which I don't see happening.
 
Ronaldo can still be lethal in possession based team rather than counter attacking where he needs to do lot of running.
 
Let's not turn into Barca fans, sounds much too close to the FDJ situation and the fans getting on his back.

We offered him the contract, he signed. We now have to face the consequences.

But, if he does stay, it does show money still matters more than anything to most people
Key difference here we aren’t saying take a pay cut to stay at the club.

We’re saying if your desire to leave for CL football is so strong then some financial sacrifices may need to be made on your part. Big big difference.
 
We’re just banking on another clubs desperation and stupidity now. I think we’re stuck with him.
 
Can’t see either side budging by Thursday tbh.

Ronaldo’s demands make it near impossible for any possible transfer…kinda strange they can’t see it.

I expect a few niggly injuries :rolleyes: will keep him in and out the team until the WC to spare his blushes. While a realistic solution is sorted in January.
 
He could get his status wages at Chelsea, would be a big marketing boon for them. I can see it happening despite the reluctance from our board of him playing for another PL team.

Whatever happens United board should hold firm and just offer a mutual contract termination if Chelsea doesn't happen. No way should we be paying any wages if Napoli or similar are his only options. He's 37-38 and should accept a much lower wage now if he wants to continue elsewhere and face the market value. He's either a main player in a lower team on a low wage, a bit part player in a bigger team on a lower wage or the very rare chance someone like Boehly pays for the marketing hype.

I do think a team working hard around him can make it work but obviously that can turn sour.
 
Let's not turn into Barca fans, sounds much too close to the FDJ situation and the fans getting on his back.

We offered him the contract, he signed. We now have to face the consequences.

But, if he does stay, it does show money still matters more than anything to most people

i think you’ve entirely mischaracterised what people have said about his wages.

no one is saying he’s on too much money or needs to take a pay cut.

people have been suggesting that if he Wants a move away, but his wage demands are stopping him getting that, then why wouldn’t he lower those demands, considering his personal financial security.

if he wants to stay, fine. But he needs to get on board that he won’t start every game and can’t be a negative influence.
 
Let's not turn into Barca fans, sounds much too close to the FDJ situation and the fans getting on his back.

We offered him the contract, he signed. We now have to face the consequences.

But, if he does stay, it does show money still matters more than anything to most people

We don't owe Ronaldo any money?
 
I think we need to separate Ronaldo’s exit from Ronaldo’s replacement.

If Memphis is available for ~€10m, then it’d be silly to not bring him in regardless of Ronaldo going or staying. He might not be the best for EtH, but he gives us some assurance up top, provides depth, can play a variety of positions and means we’re not so reliant on Ronaldo. It also means we’re not breaking the bank to get him in.

Ronaldo leaving is a separate issue and the ball is in his court. He either needs to bite the bullet and drop his wage demands to a point where a club takes a punt on him, or accept he will have a minimal role this season.

It doesn’t make any sense to be locked into any agreement for Osimhen at this stage. The striker market could be vastly different next summer. In any case, if we do make a marquee signing next summer then there’s no reason it can’t be Osimhen.

For me, this year is a free hit / transitional year for EtH. Top 4, Europa and deep run in the cups are gettable targets. Let’s get someone like Memphis in and then see where we are next summer.
Having Ronaldo now is like having a car that doesn't work at all but you still have to pay a crazy parking fee. You definitely need to buy a new car regardless of that you throw away that car or not.
 
Makes no sense why he won't lower his wages to go to Sporting or Napoli because the story won't be different next year. Nobody wants Ronaldo on those insane wages, this summer or any other summer
 
Can we not just cancel his contract and make him a free agent.
Extreme , yes maybe , cost us money defiantly, better in the long run, Yes I think so.
I’d like to,think if he agreed to cancel his contract and us not have to pay his wages for next year it would be allowed to happen but that is totally unrealistic. No chance will Ronaldo give him that amount of money

He wants his full wages and he wants champions league football. We can only offer him the money and the only clubs remotely interested can only offer him 6 CL games and a fraction of his wages
 
Can we not just cancel his contract and make him a free agent.
Extreme , yes maybe , cost us money defiantly, better in the long run, Yes I think so.
The club will look like idiots if he just turns round and joins Chelsea.
 
The club will look like idiots if he just turns round and joins Chelsea.

Chelsea is honestly my preferred scenario as it destabilises a direct rival for top four. Would be surprised if Tuchel is still there next season if it happens.
 
If he won't find a club before the deadline there's still the option of a mutual termination of the contract leaving him free to sign for others right? At the very least he'll always have Saudi as an option.
 
No way EtH does that.
Is there a situation where you would do that to then sell for a fee - for example, he goes on loan, plays a blinder and the loan team want to keep him - could you trigger the extension and ask for a fee vs. letting him join as a free agent?
 
Would be nice to think he'll leave and be replaced but with the end of the window approaching it looks more and more likely that we're stuck with him.

But on the plus side, him missing pre-season and then starting the season on the bench has set a nice precedent in terms of downgrading his role in the squad from what it was last season.
 
We shouldn't give a toss where he goes. He's more trouble than he's worth. Tuchel doesn't want him anyway
Chelsea is honestly my preferred scenario as it destabilises a direct rival for top four. Would be surprised if Tuchel is still there next season if it happens.
I think making Ronaldo out as a trojan horse is a remote possibility. He still has effectively 2 years left on his deal. We shouldn't be giving him to a rival for free. This is someone that scored 24 goals last year.
 
Key difference here we aren’t saying take a pay cut to stay at the club.

We’re saying if your desire to leave for CL football is so strong then some financial sacrifices may need to be made on your part. Big big difference.
i think you’ve entirely mischaracterised what people have said about his wages.

no one is saying he’s on too much money or needs to take a pay cut.

people have been suggesting that if he Wants a move away, but his wage demands are stopping him getting that, then why wouldn’t he lower those demands, considering his personal financial security.

if he wants to stay, fine. But he needs to get on board that he won’t start every game and can’t be a negative influence.
Fair point - I misunderstood the situation a little bit.

I don't know though if contractually we'd be able to reduce his wages, even if he wanted to. I also hate the idea of loaning him out and paying part of his wages too.
 
Him staying here won't be great for his World Cup, either. Not in terms of being picked because he obviously will be, but in terms of match fitness. If he stays I really can't see him playing that many games. Maybe a few sub appearances here and there, but not a run of games. And as we've already seen, he looks way off it, and the tournament starts in about 2 months.
 
If he won't find a club before the deadline there's still the option of a mutual termination of the contract leaving him free to sign for others right? At the very least he'll always have Saudi as an option.

Isn't a big part of him kicking up a fuss to do with the fact that he wants CL football? He isn't going to any team that doesn't have it. If he doesn't move now, I don't see why he would terminate his contract because he still isn't going to find a CL team.
 
Him staying here won't be great for his World Cup, either. Not in terms of being picked because he obviously will be, but in terms of match fitness. If he stays I really can't see him playing that many games. Maybe a few sub appearances here and there, but not a run of games. And as we've already seen, he looks way off it, and the tournament starts in about 2 months.

I expect he'll play in the cups and the Europa League so will get games.
 
If he stays, he will eventually start when we can’t get enough goals from Rashford/Martial.
 
Fair point - I misunderstood the situation a little bit.

I don't know though if contractually we'd be able to reduce his wages, even if he wanted to. I also hate the idea of loaning him out and paying part of his wages too.

i wouldn’t agree with asking him to reduce his wages if he’s staying, we signed a contract we should honour it. But I do think if he wants to move somewhere else, he should be willing to take a pay cut at another club.

absolutely under no circumstances should we pay any of his wages somewhere else
 
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