Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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He’ll score an insane amount of goals for you lot if he does sign. I can’t see it happening though.
Football wise he'd be a clear downgrade and I don't want him anywhere near my club. Luckily Salihamidzic put out a statement, that they are no interested.
 
Loads would want him. 99.9% of those can't afford him or he wouldn't want to join them.
It's the handful that could - and that he'd join - that are ruling themselves out.
Hopefully that continues, and he stays with us for another season while we address the other areas this summer, and the first choice #9 situation next summer.

Who do you think is better fit to replace him next summer out of Schick & Osmihen
 
Loads would want him. 99.9% of those can't afford him or he wouldn't want to join them.
It's the handful that could - and that he'd join - that are ruling themselves out.
Hopefully that continues, and he stays with us for another season while we address the other areas this summer, and the first choice #9 situation next summer.
So he thinks he’s a lot better than he actually is. I see.
 
I'm going to be furious if he leaves us now. We should have given him 2 weeks to find a club and if he didn't find one, he wasn't going anywhere.

Otherwise this puts so much pressure on us during the transfer window, trying to find a FW. And no, Antony isn't his replacement whatsoever.
 
So he thinks he’s a lot better than he actually is. I see.
60 goals in the last two seasons - leading scorer in Serie A followed by 3rd highest in PL. All for a player 'past his best and in decline' - all because that prime involved getting 50/60 goals per season. He's clearly still good enough to be playing regularly in the PL and CL with goal tallies like that.

I can go along with the new manager, new system, time to think long term points. But the argument he's past it, and only good enough as an impact sub or for lesser leagues is crazy after 60 goals in the last 2 seasons in two of the best leagues in the world.
 
60 goals in the last two seasons - leading scorer in Serie A followed by 3rd highest in PL. All for a player 'past his best and in decline' - all because that prime involved getting 50/60 goals per season. He's clearly still good enough to be playing regularly in the PL and CL with goal tallies like that.

I can go along with the new manager, new system, time to think long term points. But the argument he's past it, and only good enough as an impact sub or for lesser leagues is crazy after 60 goals in the last 2 seasons in two of the best leagues in the world.
Interesting. You’d have to wonder why clubs aren’t willing to pay him what he wants given how supposedly brilliant he still is.
 
Who do you think is better fit to replace him next summer out of Schick & Osmihen
Either would be quite good additions. Depending on the formation and style ETH wishes to play then he may prefer one to the other. But both have good ability and could perform well at this level if used correctly.
 
Many top sides would still be interested in someone of his capabilities but the one major thing holding Ronaldo back is his ego. He still expects to be the main man and the 1st name on the teemsheet.

Luckily for them though its not going to be their problem, its going to be ours/Hag's.
 
But the argument he's past it, and only good enough as an impact sub or for lesser leagues is crazy after 60 goals in the last 2 seasons in two of the best leagues in the world.
At his age it is a bit dangerous to quote what he has done 2 years ago and in another league. Last season he had 15 non-penalty league goals in 2,500 minutes.
 
Interesting. You’d have to wonder why clubs aren’t willing to pay him what he wants given how supposedly brilliant he still is.
Because there's only about a handful of clubs who could afford it, and who he'd consider moving away from us for, and they're doing very well with their current group, and signings made prior to Ronaldo's decision to leave, so don't need a big wage signing like Ronaldo. Same as they're not currently in the market for other top talent - such as de Jong. Doesn't mean he's not a quality player.

Only Bayern out of those really need a #9 and they don't have a history of signing late 30's players on huge wages. The fact that Ronaldo only wants to move away from us to a certain size club - of very limited numbers - is what's reducing his chances of moving. If it was just 'I'll go anywhere' he'd have no shortage of options. Which is why I disagreed about no one wanting him. It's just none of the handful of CL clubs he'd consider leaving us for.
 
His goals are fine.

The problem is that if you buy him you're also buying his negative impact on general play, his unwillingness to sit out big games, the inclination towards public displays of petulance and the circus of attention and scrutiny that accompany him. All for short-term gain and the challenge of having to manage him and his ego out of your club again relatively soon. Oh, and you'll be paying him small fortune for the privilege.

No shit a lot of top clubs aren't interested.

And that's without even taking into account whether they actually need a player in his position, whatever position that is given Rangnick told us Ronaldo doesn't actually want to play as a lone CF.
 
If his wish is champions league goals and he has no other option he’ll drop his wage demands, if it were about money he’d be off to Saudi. He’s a millionaire many times over and would still make huge money from other avenues outside his club wage,

Still. He's a fecking virus in the dressing room. No one wants that
 
You said he wasn’t any good but the numbers prove otherwise.
I’m sure you can cherry pick the numbers you want to paint your hero in a good light. The numbers I prefer are the ones that say 10 of his 18 league goals came in 4 matches, less goals and assists combined than Pukki in 2022, scored 3 goals in 13 games spanning a period of nearly 3 months, and from mid December to mid April scored in just 4 games in all competitions for club and country.
 
At his age it is a bit dangerous to quote what he has done 2 years ago and in another league. Last season he had 15 non-penalty league goals in 2,500 minutes.
So we're excluding goals scored more than 12 months ago, and excluding penalities. And even by doing that he still scored 15 PL goals last season. Where does that place him on the list of PL scorers last season - excluding everyone else's penalties from the list as well, of course? He's still joint 6th with 15, even if you only take away his penalties but no-one else's.
 
Least he might get some better delivery from our new signings. Look at that one from Tyrell to Marcus yesterday, also we know Lisandro & Christian can both put in quality balls as well.
 
I’m sure you can cherry pick the numbers you want to paint your hero in a good light. The numbers I prefer are the ones that say 10 of his 18 league goals came in 4 matches, less goals and assists combined than Pukki in 2022, scored 3 goals in 13 games spanning a period of nearly 3 months, and from mid December to mid April scored in just 4 games in all competitions for club and country.
Wow, is that true? That is terrible considering he offers little else other than goals. We seriously need to get rid so Ten Hag can get on with the job with the whole team pulling in the same direction.
 
So we're excluding goals scored more than 12 months ago, and excluding penalities. And even by doing that he still scored 15 PL goals last season. Where does that place him on the list of PL scorers last season - excluding everyone else's penalties from the list as well, of course? He's still joint 6th with 15, even if you only take away his penalties but no-one else's.
It was me countering your „he scored 60 goals in the last two seasons combined“ narrative. He scored a goal every 170 minutes in the league last year while being the focal point of United’s attack. That isn‘t good for neither 500k pw nor 200k pw.
 
I’m sure you can cherry pick the numbers you want to paint your hero in a good light. The numbers I prefer are the ones that say 10 of his 18 league goals came in 4 matches, less goals and assists combined than Pukki in 2022, scored 3 goals in 13 games spanning a period of nearly 3 months, and from mid December to mid April scored in just 4 games in all competitions for club and country.
You’re talking about cherry picking stats but you just went and cherry picked stats.
 
Wow, is that true? That is terrible considering he offers little else other than goals. We seriously need to get rid so Ten Hag can get on with the job with the whole team pulling in the same direction.
Yes, you can find the data on WhoScored. His goalscoring was inconsistent and patchy beyond belief. Some stat padding at the end of the season when we barely had anything to play for can fool people who are blind but any objective viewer can see he was rubbish.
 
No, I simply provided some context to the “he was our top scorer! How can he be bad” shite that his fans peddle on here.
That's not quite the point, is it? A striker can be 'top scorer' of a poor team with, say, 4 goals. Ronaldo was top scorer in Serie A two seasons ago, and 3rd top scorer in the PL last season. That's not the same as saying he was just 'our' top scorer. A person achieving that clearly isn't bad. He's still good.
 
Would you have thought that Martial would fit the system? look at how well he's doing though. ETH will make it work.
We've played a couple preseason friendlies, it's a bit early to be concluding Martial is a success in the new system, or any player for that matter
 
The most annoying thing is how predictable it all was that a declining 37 year old, undroppable player on £500k a week would be a problem just a year down the line.
 
I’m sure you can cherry pick the numbers you want to paint your hero in a good light. The numbers I prefer are the ones that say 10 of his 18 league goals came in 4 matches, less goals and assists combined than Pukki in 2022, scored 3 goals in 13 games spanning a period of nearly 3 months, and from mid December to mid April scored in just 4 games in all competitions for club and country.

Think the stat I saw was that across 12 games of that December to April run you mention he scored 2 non-penalty goals from 40 shots. Along with 10 shots and no goals in our FA cup defeat to Middlesborough.
 
That's not quite the point, is it? A striker can be 'top scorer' of a poor team with, say, 4 goals. Ronaldo was top scorer in Serie A two seasons ago, and 3rd top scorer in the PL last season. That's not the same as saying he was just 'our' top scorer. A person achieving that clearly isn't bad. He's still good.
Given Ronaldo is 37 years old, two seasons was a lifetime ago. And I don’t think it’s very impressive being the top scorer in Serie A. Immobile was the top scorer last season and I don’t think you’d find anyone mentioning him in a conversation about the best attackers in the world. As for the PL, he scored 15 non penalty goals which is hardly an amazing achievement. It was matched by Vardy in far fewer minutes and it was a low scoring season for most forwards anyway, if you go back a year players like Bamford and Calvert-Lewin matched or bettered Ronaldo’s tally of 15 non penalty goals in much worse teams.
 
Think the stat I saw was that across 12 games of that December to April run you mention he scored 2 non-penalty goals from 40 shots. Along with 10 shots and no goals in our FA cup defeat to Middlesborough.
Also didn’t have a single shot on target in 2 legs vs Atletico.
 
I feel it would be detrimental to the team if Ronaldo stays. He has a too big ego. He doesn’t want to train so feck him, he is not bigger then the club.
 
I feel it would be detrimental to the team if Ronaldo stays. He has a too big ego. He doesn’t want to train so feck him, he is not bigger then the club.

Totally agree if we had Schick lined up, clearly no one is willing to take put on Belotti either
 
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