Those are not correlated. One could have been suffering from grieve and coping with ordeal, even if they are taking selfies, especially when they are public figure and need to keep posting on social media to maintain their brand. But bottom line is, you keep making judgment based on pure speculation here, which you are free to do so. But I am not one of those people who would judge someone who just recently loss their baby child, so count me out of this.
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OK RedRonaldo.
Most clubs could make use of him as an impact sub. Provided he also plays for impact sub wages, that is.
What if Ronaldo was Redronaldo's son, would you still mock him for his opinion?
I think as long as he remains within the current limit the wages would be the smallest obstacle. He does sell a ton of shirts and it would be a short term "special case" anyway.
Exactly. It just personal like or dislike afterall.
The outrageous willingness to throw any logic out the window would at least make a bit of sense of he was family!
I knew when arguments are running dry people would resorted to this. I am ok with that.
I think we all know RedRonaldo would sacrifice himself for Ronaldo's honour any day of the week.
Making judgement based on pure speculation is not necessarily a logical thing.
If thats the best you could do here, I am perfectly fine with that.
Him posting a topless workout selfie isn't pure speculation, he did it. Him skipping training isn't pure speculation, he's not with the team. The club announcing "personal reasons" for his absence just after he asked to leave isn't pure speculation, it happened.
The only "pure speculation" is you ghoulishly bringing up the death of his kid months ago as an explanation for his actions.
Ronaldo fanboys will support Liverpool if he played for them.
He post topless selfie all the time, like everyday 24/7 in social media. Doesn't reflect anything.
Just take a chill or something, ok? Those Scousers from Anfield has shown much more class than you here, the way they respond to him losing a baby child. You can hate him as much as you want, but he is still our player.
Are you monitoring the RAWK situation on Ronaldo's behalf?
Have to agree with redRonaldo on his point, everyone copes and deals with things differently.m, haven’t the time free to sit and think and process everything is probably hitting home the reality of it everything. Taking selfies is a way of perhaps masking the pain he’s feeling and not wanting to show weakness.
I don't hate Ronaldo at all, I like him. He's an incredible player and an incredible role model. His fanboys though? Yuk.
And you talk about class while in the same breath using a dead kid to justify a nonsense hypothesis, unbelievable.
I'm done with you now.
Don't have time for that. I am talking about Anfield the day after he lost baby child.
I’m not sure why everyone is so obsessed by this really, least not oppo fans anyway.
Don’t think @RedRonaldo should be getting stick as he’s entitled to his opinion. Both the club and reliable media sources have confirmed there’s some kind of personal family issue ongoing for his and we can all speculate as to what that might be. He’s not gone AWOL and the club have given him permission to be away. Just because he’s training in the gym doesn’t mean that’s not the case. It’s a silly point to jump on given he’s a professional athlete and many people use training to give themselves routine and to positively impact their wellbeing.
Obviously there’s discontent with the current situation and it’s pretty certain Ronaldo has asked to be allowed to leave if the club receive an acceptable (to all parties) offer. This may also relate to the family issues? Who knows? It could be purely for sporting matters or a mix of the a few things?
There’s zero indication at this point as to what has been said by who and why.
There’s also no indication that Ronaldo has refused to come back or go on strike.
I personally don’t see a huge issue at this point. In terms of preparation it’s worth mentioning you have players not going on tour with their clubs because they don’t want covid vaccinations for example (Kante and Loftus-Cheek etc).
Don’t think @RedRonaldo should be getting stick as he’s entitled to his opinion. Both the club and reliable media sources have confirmed there’s some kind of personal family issue ongoing for his and we can all speculate as to what that might be. He’s not gone AWOL and the club have given him permission to be away. Just because he’s training in the gym doesn’t mean that’s not the case. It’s a silly point to jump on given he’s a professional athlete and many people use training to give themselves routine and to positively impact their wellbeing.
Obviously there’s discontent with the current situation and it’s pretty certain Ronaldo has asked to be allowed to leave if the club receive an acceptable (to all parties) offer. This may also relate to the family issues? Who knows? It could be purely for sporting matters or a mix of the a few things?
There’s zero indication at this point as to what has been said by who and why.
There’s also no indication that Ronaldo has refused to come back or go on strike.
I personally don’t see a huge issue at this point. In terms of preparation it’s worth mentioning you have players not going on tour with their clubs because they don’t want covid vaccinations for example (Kante and Loftus-Cheek etc).
I don't expect people without class or compassion will understand any of this. Glad you are finally done here.
Much of that is perfectly valid opinion / interpretation. Not necessarily all correct, as we all tend to be inconsistent by interpreting similar actions positively or negatively depending on whether you like or dislike the person performing them, etc.
The point about a new direction and developing a team ethos under ETH is spot on. But that applies to a lot more than Ronaldo given he's only been back for one season and there's been complaints about our players attitudes and 'turning on every manager post Fergie' for years.
But I mostly want to pick up on the comment about how he should now accept being "(a) a rotational player and (b) an impact sub when you are chasing a goal. But that value could only ever be extracted if he had humility about his decline."
I agree with 'rotating' him in the same way that the likes of Salah, KDB, have to occasionally be rested as well. But this 'decline' is way overplayed on here. He's scored 60 goals in the last two seasons, in Serie A and the PL. That's great numbers by anyone else's standards that that few can still match (top Serie A scorer in 20/21, 3rd in PL last season). The idea that any player still doing that needs to 'accept his decline and accept he's only good for an impact sub role now' is ludicrous.
Just because Ronaldo used to get 50/60 a season in his prime, and is now 'only' averaging half of that, doesn't mean he's now an impact sub level. 60 goals over two seasons is still phenomenal scoring, and that player is still a regular starter level in the PL, not a bit part impact sub.
He lost a baby in April just 3 months ago.
Now I honestly couldn’t give a monkeys about What Ronaldo does or doesn’t do, but it is not ghoulish or manipulative to suggest the many might still be grieving with his partner and need some extra time off.
Posting a selfie of himself working out is not ridiculous either, he needs to be fit.
it maybe all about leaving and money, I just do not know. But you can not write off losing a child it is the most devastating thing that can happen to a family. I would certainly not be over it after 3 months.
There are plenty. This isn’t 2015 anymore.
Not sure if reliable.
I never said posting a selfie or working out is ridiculous, did i? The idea that's he's off work due to grief (something only a few fans have suggested, not him and not the club) but is posting topless gym selfies does strike me as incongruous. I'm not knocking Ronaldo at all here for posting the selfie, if I looked like him I'd never put a shirt on.
This guy is being followed by Fabrizio. No idea who he is though
Posts like these really do rattle me. Yes, I really do despise Ronaldo, for reasons I can’t get into on a public forum due to apparent libel issues.
Well then go and get Schick as replacement, also still keep tracking this Osmihen for next summer. Whatever we do don't sign Antony leaving us with no proper number 9 in the squad.
A lot of posts completely ignore this, very legitimate, reason to despise the man.
Who has publicly leaked that he wants to leave and hasn't shown up for pre-season (perhaps family reasons, but the whole pre-season?).
I don't know that he's particularly hated but he's disrespected the club and fans, and they're responding in kind, plain and simple.
It's not like he doesn't have form with this sort of behaviour anyway.
Bayern wouldn't go from Lewa to Ronaldo would they? That seems like a strange downgrade. They would be far better off paying Lewa higher wages than paying Ronaldo those wages.
Yes Bayern do it please.
Whether you choose to suck Ronaldo off at every opportunity you get is up to you but surely you can see he has acted towards United and the fans with a lack of respect?
How so? He just asked to leave. Why’s that a lack of respect?
Maybe not turning up to pre-season training is a valid argument but still the club has officially maintained that it was for personal issues. If it turns out it wasn’t, then yeah you can say for sure it was disrespectful of him. Till then not really.
Incorrect interpretation by the guy writing this tweet surely. Tuchel was referring to a 'nice try' by the journalist getting him to answer the question rather than a nice try by Chelsea to sign Ronaldo.
He was referring to the journalist.
Maybe he will move to Bayern, some journalist posted that its on.
I really suppose the "good and positive" convo ETH had with him was a bit more of a "feck off and find a team" kind of talk.
Then he goes to the press, says we don't match his ambition and tries to move.
It might be a long shot but I'd love ETH for such a thing.
Ronnie is Ronnie and he'll score 30 with ease in a very functional ETH setup, but he won't play all the games and we all know that will lead to him acting like a kid and fecking up the dressing room. I'd like him gone, and asap.
Sometimes, romances are good to be let go.
Then he goes to the press, says we don't match his ambition and tries to move.
It might be a long shot but I'd love ETH for such a thing.
Ronnie is Ronnie and he'll score 30 with ease in a very functional ETH setup, but he won't play all the games and we all know that will lead to him acting like a kid and fecking up the dressing room. I'd like him gone, and asap.
Sometimes, romances are good to be let go.
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