'Turned down big money from Saudi to stay'. Seems that we're stuck with him which is no surprise.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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No one wants him for the same reasons I think we should be actively looking to sell him.
He and Mendes must be on their knees in the Bayern office
You watch them play football on a regular basis?
Using your eyes, which player would you say is closer to being in his prime? It's a simple question (provided you have watched them both lately)?
We're not keen on becoming a retirement home for an overpaid Diva.
Only reason is because Liverpool agreed to it. They didn't create a fuss and went for an amicable exit.
Bayern on the other hand know that Barcelona will be desperate and will ultimately cave in to their price. It isn't a function of transfer fee dictating the quality of the player.
Removing Mane from the discussion, at the moment, there is no comparison between Ronaldo and Lewandowski. Lewa scored 50 goals last season. Regardless of the league and standard, that is an absurd number. Ronaldo could've hit that or perhaps done better in his peak. But he's not doing that anymore.
Both United and Juventus have regressed as teams since signing him and while correlation isn't causality, there are many strikers right now who are obviously younger and can match Ronaldo's (current) stats while giving more value on the pitch. There's a reason he's getting rejected all over the place even when the striker market is so thin. Unfortunately for us, our chance for a proper rebuild sans Ronaldo is slipping away and we will now be left with a big ego striker who doesn't press and is missing crucial pre-season to identify his role in the system.
It's not even that, it's not a matter of market size but consumer behavior within a goods market. A consumer may consider that Lewandowski is worth 50m for him while thinking that Ronaldo is worth 20m for him, the reason will be that he doesn't consider that Ronaldo and Lewandowski are perfect substitutes. It's a bit like two brand of pastas, a consumer can consider that 1kg of Barilla pasta is worth its price while thinking that 1kg of Panzani pasta isn't worth its price, that consumer will only purchase Panzani pastas if they are discounted.
Right, I dont know how it works.
Yet, I guarantee you were complaining that Manutd paid £80m for Maguire.
" Maguire was always closer to a 40m-50m centerback. 80m is Van Dijk level which is not where Maguire has ever been. "
THese are your quotes, so dont come to me saying "doesnt matter what I think" when it suits your narrative, but were quick to bash United on signing Maguire.
Clearly, you understood supply and demand.
I don’t expect you to. You’re clearly not bright.
This cnut cant return, he will never put team above himself regardless of his age or reality, will just stink up a place with his ego selfish free for all aura. WIll just make things harder for ETH, anyone thinking he will get in line is crazy.
So he rejected money, guess CL is most important thing, in that case he should drop his wage demands to the floor, there must be someone out there willing to take him on low, it doesnt need to be top 5 team.
So he rejected money, guess CL is most important thing, in that case he should drop his wage demands to the floor, there must be someone out there willing to take him on low, it doesnt need to be top 5 team.
The clubs he wants don’t want him, and the clubs that will be interested are the tier below from what he wants (Napoli; Sporting etc) — and they can’t meet the transfer fee + his salary demand. He’s fecked.
Hopefully if he comes back it’s entirely on Ten Hag’s terms. He plays when the gaffer says and on games where he isn’t in the team he’s not fecking off to Portugal in his jet.
Hopefully if he comes back it’s entirely on Ten Hag’s terms. He plays when the gaffer says and on games where he isn’t in the team he’s not fecking off to Portugal in his jet.
I have to say I feel some level of satisfaction seeing his options go down the drain. He’s one of the greatest but demanding a move so late in the window could’ve had such a destabilizing effect. It looks like he’ll stay now and play out the year. Ten Hag also seems strong enough to not play to his ego and will bench him if he fails to perform.
These are two different things.
Personally, I agree, I do not want him to stay because of the reasons you have mentioned.
However; If Bayern come in the last week saying we want Ronaldo, for 20m, we are left worse of than keeping Ronaldo because we will have 1 ST in Martial, who cannot stay fit for a whole season.
So, the longer it goes, the more valuable he becomes for us because we do not have a striker.
Bayern did well with Lewandowski who isn't a pressing machine so Ronaldo not pressing shouldn't really be a hindrance. I'm surprised they don't want him because there's not a single striker available to replace Lewy right now that's as good as Ronaldo
Send him to play with the kids. Don't want his attitude stinking up the team.
I always thought he wouldn't come out with his desire to leave without his next club already secured.
But it must have been a play to make it known to everyone that he wants to leave to drum up some attention in the hope everyone would want him...talk about failing to read the room.
But it must have been a play to make it known to everyone that he wants to leave to drum up some attention in the hope everyone would want him...talk about failing to read the room.
That also puts to bed that he wanted to leave for money. If he agrees with Bayern to play on a low salary and maybe predominantly in champions league matches, they’ll take him imo.
Guy is so full of himself, can't believe he started this drama thinking he would have teams lining up for him. Creates a stir, nobody wants him, left to come back tail between his legs to a manager and system that doesn't suit him in the slightest.No chance he takes that Saudi offer but wouldn't be bad for us if he did
Bayern probably want to do what they always do. Identify the next up and coming player from a Bundesliga rival and take them.
They‘ve already won their league 10 times in a row and have won the CL multiple times as well. So what use would Ronaldo be to them as a short term boost? They aren’t the sort of club that’s desperate for one last push over the line like PSG.
Cristiano and Mendes and figuering out little by little that they climbed on a very tall tree and now they're trying to figuere out how they can climb down from it.
Cristiano is seeing that no club is waiting in line for him especially ones who would want to pay him the salary that he wants in his particulary age.
And with the report about the Saudi offer - Mendes is trying to paint it as "Look what kind of offer Cristiano refused to accept in order to stay in Manchester United"
Cristiano is seeing that no club is waiting in line for him especially ones who would want to pay him the salary that he wants in his particulary age.
And with the report about the Saudi offer - Mendes is trying to paint it as "Look what kind of offer Cristiano refused to accept in order to stay in Manchester United"
Wait, you think current day Lewandowski being better than current day Ronaldo is an opinion?
Current day Lewandowski is about as close as there is to a perfect modern centre forward, with his only drawback being his age (which is still four years younger than Ronaldo).
Anyway, Bayern don’t want Ronaldo so it’s moot. They won’t want him because they know what they’re doing. There is one reason they could theoretically want him and that’s to use his image, but Bayern Munich don’t need him in that way either.
Said that myself last night. Seems quite obvious that’s what that was to me.
Lewandowski scores more (product of his team) than Ronaldo but I genuinely don’t see anything special about his game. But honestly, I don’t watch him that often. Just in the klassiker matches and UCL.
"Nobody wants me?"
I can't lie, I find it funny seeing how this is ending in fiasco for Ronaldo.
I said earlier in this thread this summer could be a wake up call for him: None of Europe's elite want to spend £500k a week on the 37 year old version of Ronaldo. None of Europe's elite want to spend half that. Its not clear that his on the pitch upside is big enough for that.
Instead he's going to have to accept that he is not the same player he was 5-10 years ago, accept what that means in terms of being able to throw his toys out of the pram, come back to Manchester and do things Ten Hag's way.
Can anyone here see Ronaldo playing the type of role Zlatan did at Milan?
Secondly, Lewa is supreme at holding the ball and using his strength up against CBs. Ronaldo although playing up front prefers to drift into wide areas and the channels. That's why he would like a strike partner. He doesn't want to do donkey work. They are very differnt players.
Lewa still works harder off the ball than Ronaldo . A lot harder if we are being fair Ronaldo is in the bottom 1%. I am sure he can work harder but is he willing at this stage of his career in the most physical league in the world?
Secondly, Lewa is supreme at holding the ball and using his strength up against CBs. Ronaldo although playing up front prefers to drift into wide areas and the channels. That's why he would like a strike partner. He doesn't want to do donkey work. They are very differnt players.
Someone here got played, Mendes made a pretty bad calculation. But either way the team will end up paying the price if we can’t get rid of him now.
We aren't getting top 4 if Ronaldo starts more than 25 games next season, you can quote me on this.
Mate I think if you ask the community here who they’d rather have at this moment, willing bet at least 80% says Lewa over Ronaldo.
It should be common sense to find a taker before announcing he wants to leave right? What did Ronaldo and his agent think?
I am still a big fan of Ronaldo but honestly, I would love for us to sell him now. There's no point building the whole attack based on a 37 year old striker.
I am still a big fan of Ronaldo but honestly, I would love for us to sell him now. There's no point building the whole attack based on a 37 year old striker.
The fact that nobody wants him gives ETH leverage, I'll be milking it 100% if I were in his shoes, fall in line or feck off!!
Yeah Ofcourse. Doesn’t mean anything though.
Let's make it clear, it doesn't matter what you think when you are talking about Bayern's consumer/seller behavior, the only thing that actual matter is how they evaluate their needs and the goods available to them. There is no point where they have to consider that Ronaldo and Lewandowski are substitutable. For that reason when it comes to supply and demand there is no reason for them to consider that Ronaldo and Lewandowski are worth the same price.
Now regarding Van Dijk and Maguire, it didn't matter what I thought, United estimated that he was the equivalent of Van Dijk, I disagree with that but it was their evaluation which is how consumers determine how much they are willing to spend. When it comes to prices in goods market, the behavior of a singular agent isn't that telling, that's why it relies on atomicity.
And the Football transfer market, isn't a regular market, it doesn't follow the logic of common goods and is closer to the Art market.
If you ask every manager at a top club who they'd rather have currently, it would be 100% Lewandowski.
Said it from day 1, huge mistake to bring him back. Now this onntop kills it for me. Let him sit on the bench, the EtH train departed without him
He would hardly push for a loan somewhere as as last resort if he doesnt want to join Sporting ?
I hope Erik doesnt take any sh!t from him if he needs to be dropped or rested.
I hope Erik doesnt take any sh!t from him if he needs to be dropped or rested.
Can't we just terminate the contact if he remains awol?
I mean, this was one of the big reasons I didn't want him back. There was always going to come a point where he wanted to leave or we wanted him gone and the two were unlikely to coincide so it was always going to get messy. The guy is getting old but his ego is bigger than ever. It was always going to end badly.
Ronaldo would never score that goal that Martial did. I'm not saying Martial is better, but he at least is young and fast, and can learn how to press. Ronaldo on the other hand will never do that.
He’s dealing with personal issues , remember they lost a child not so long ago so I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment in that it’s not linked to him wanting to leave .
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