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Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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I don’t think this has gone the way Ronaldo thought it would go. It looks like there aren’t any clubs in for him (European clubs anyway) our fans reaction seems to be “off you pop” and the media are now suggesting that it’s a good thing for United that he wants to leave. It couldn’t have gone any worse for him.
You never know. Maybe this will be good for him. Maybe it will bring his ego into check and make him realise that he isn’t the player he once was. I think most would agree that he would be a great impact player from the bench.
Regardless of all the above, we all know his ego is much too big for that. It’s a shame really.
You never know. Maybe this will be good for him. Maybe it will bring his ego into check and make him realise that he isn’t the player he once was. I think most would agree that he would be a great impact player from the bench.
Regardless of all the above, we all know his ego is much too big for that. It’s a shame really.
Messi got 5 goals in the CL last season, so it's a bit of a stretch thinking he could easily double that the next two seasons I think.
in what way did it not work out for Juve? I suppose based on CL but he brought/helped them titles and went deep in the CL. I'd take that at United right now
Hadn't Juve already won 6 or 7 titles in a row before he joined? They clearly bought him for the CL. It was a gigantic transfer fee and salary for his age.
Just checked, Juve went out to Porto, Lyon, and Ajax while Ronaldo was there, so they didn't appear to do well at all in the CL. As @Real Name says.
I'm to lazy but I even think they did worse in CL compared to before he got there.
He Joined in 2018, Juventus had won the league the previous 6 seasons, in his 4 seasons they won the league 3 out of 4 however they were awful in the CL never getting beyond the QF stage with his reported wages being £650k per week, yes he was a success but not they way Juventus imagined for their huge financial outlay, only once did they get to the QF, the other times they were knocked out in the round of 16, I would hardly call that deep when in the previous 6 seasons they made two champions league Finals Losing in 2015 and 2017, the season before Ronaldo arrived. United under Ole Got to a QF in the CL, Round of 16, EL Final and a EL SF just as insignificant I would say as Juventus are in Europe during Ronaldo reign!
That quote from ten Hag about the players needing to play an intense style of football with lots of pressing was great. Hope Crissy managed to catch it on his stream from the Algarve.
Wouldn't be ideal, but to be honest, I reckon he could probably manage 15 league goals for us this coming season which is pretty much what we paid Ronnie 500k pw to do last season. We ain't in the CL anyway so no loss there.
I think this Saudi story is probably a "Hurry up" message aimed at Chelsea.
They are the only club that meets his wishlist and is not categorically ruling out making a bid. It also makes himself look "cheaper" to them as he will no doubt be able to be sold for less money and would accept a lower salary than that being offered by the saudi's.
This is the typical ploy of Mendes...and it works because United fell for it last time.
They are the only club that meets his wishlist and is not categorically ruling out making a bid. It also makes himself look "cheaper" to them as he will no doubt be able to be sold for less money and would accept a lower salary than that being offered by the saudi's.
This is the typical ploy of Mendes...and it works because United fell for it last time.
Can see Bayern coming in for him when Lewa does eventually leave this summer.
Feels like Ronnie may be the odd one out if he returns.
Strange feeling as I'm happy for him to the lead the line for us but also very curious about a fluid-interchangeable front 3 of Martial, Sancho, Rashford.
Strange feeling as I'm happy for him to the lead the line for us but also very curious about a fluid-interchangeable front 3 of Martial, Sancho, Rashford.
They sure did. In the four seasons before Ronaldo joined Juve they reached the final twice, QF once and RO16 once. They lost both finals, once to Barcelona and once to Real Madrid. The other times they were knocked out by Guardiola's Bayern and Real Madrid who went on to win the whole thing so you could say they lost out to some very good teams.
With Ronaldo it was once QF and twice a RO16 exit for Juve. The teams they lost to were Ajax, Lyon and Porto so not exactly the best of the bunch.
I'm with you on this. If Martial gives a damn he could do pretty well for us as the primary striker, perhaps Rashford can fill in as well in a pinch.
Should be enough for this season while we claw our way back up to the Big Boys and who knows what might be available next summer.
They’ve already ruled it out.
iirc that was when they were expecting Lewa to stay.
Exactly, there is no suitable player available at the moment. Lot of the names quoted are just not good enough.
He’s gonna wait until the end of the transfer window and hope that someone gets an injury and their club gets desperate. Until then we may as well forget about him because he’ll continue doing a Cavani.
If making him stay is going to bring some negativity to the dressing room or our system then he needs to be sold.
I wonder if a properly coached team with Bruno as a false 9 might work.
It was interesting to hear ETH's tone change in the pre-match interview from Australia when asked about Ronnie: "We've made a statement nothing has changed"
I actually could not come up with a better ending if he ends up in Saudi Arabia. I would love to se it happen, but sadly probably wont happen
He'd give BVB a real chance if he went to Bayern. Why on earth would Nagelsman want a 37 year old striker that doesn't press and has the biggest ego i football? A downgrade on Lewa on every measurable parameter on the pitch.
Martial is known to be picking up injuries and Rashford scored 4 PL goals last season and has been rubbish for 3 years now
Or a return to Sporting Lisbon. Would take him having to accept a massive pay cut for that to happen though.
Yeah, take the transfer fee and wages saved and get a new striker in. I wouldn't be bothered. We have no CL. He scored 18 goals in the PL, which a new striker + in a better system should be easy to replace.
No. Once Barca finds the money for Lewandowski, Bayern will buy de Ligt and extend Gnabry's contract.
A bit of a daft question on my part but does bayern press? Is Lewa the first line of defence? I know we keep saying Ronaldo doesn’t fit them but is that really the case ?
He’s not been expected to stay at any point this summer. Ronaldo would also be a massive downgrade on Lewandowski.
We will in all honesty be miles better off without him. ETH wants his team pressing from the front, and Ronaldo is at the age where he needs to conserve his energy to score goals, so won't or can't press like what is required.
He will hamper the new style and tactics massively. I would rather the squad play as a team rather than play for Ronaldo or be weaker tactically.
He will hamper the new style and tactics massively. I would rather the squad play as a team rather than play for Ronaldo or be weaker tactically.
Yesterday I saw a report from Germany about Nagelsmann putting emphasis on high pressing in their last training session, as he wants his team to improve in that area this season. The guy being open to sign Ronaldo would be kind of surprising, but you never know. Maybe he wants to tell his grandsons one day that he coached Ronaldo.
By the way Lewandowski was open to sign a 2 years contract in April according to reports, but Bayern only offered one and negotiations got broken. I'm just guessing here but this could be a gentle invitation from Bayern for him to leave, more or less like when they did something similar with Schweinsteiger before he joined us, they offered him a contract but apparently it was taken by the man as an insult.
The way Lewandowski is forcing his exit now (not even training properly apparently) it seems like he's been offended too, maybe with reason or maybe without it. But Bayern softly pushing him out to build a more dynamic and energetic attack could be a possibility too. They just got Mane and it looks like Gnabry is more open to renew the contract so they could have a fluid attack with Coman, Sane, Muller rotating and moving all around on the field.
Out of these two options I think Tuchel accepting Ronaldo could be more probable seeing how they're missing targets in attack, the owner wanting to introduce himself in society with something spectacular, Mendes pushing for sure with his financial propaganda and Ronaldo maybe telling them he'll try to press and he will be a good boy. Tuchel has managed stars already at PSG and he can be a flexible manager (to certain extent), so even as a remote chance I can see him bending his knee eventually even without much enthusiasm about the whole thing.
If it's not Chelsea, I said it before what I think. The only way Ronaldo can have a team moulded as his personal platform and having all kind of privileges is finding a Sporting, Monaco, Napoli where he can boss the place. No top club with CL aspirations is going to "shake up the house" to carry him both physical and tactically, and I think with ETH we're moving away from this outdated model too. Today more quotes from the man about us playing at high intensity, "pressing all day" and so on. Ronaldo is finished here.
By the way Lewandowski was open to sign a 2 years contract in April according to reports, but Bayern only offered one and negotiations got broken. I'm just guessing here but this could be a gentle invitation from Bayern for him to leave, more or less like when they did something similar with Schweinsteiger before he joined us, they offered him a contract but apparently it was taken by the man as an insult.
The way Lewandowski is forcing his exit now (not even training properly apparently) it seems like he's been offended too, maybe with reason or maybe without it. But Bayern softly pushing him out to build a more dynamic and energetic attack could be a possibility too. They just got Mane and it looks like Gnabry is more open to renew the contract so they could have a fluid attack with Coman, Sane, Muller rotating and moving all around on the field.
Out of these two options I think Tuchel accepting Ronaldo could be more probable seeing how they're missing targets in attack, the owner wanting to introduce himself in society with something spectacular, Mendes pushing for sure with his financial propaganda and Ronaldo maybe telling them he'll try to press and he will be a good boy. Tuchel has managed stars already at PSG and he can be a flexible manager (to certain extent), so even as a remote chance I can see him bending his knee eventually even without much enthusiasm about the whole thing.
If it's not Chelsea, I said it before what I think. The only way Ronaldo can have a team moulded as his personal platform and having all kind of privileges is finding a Sporting, Monaco, Napoli where he can boss the place. No top club with CL aspirations is going to "shake up the house" to carry him both physical and tactically, and I think with ETH we're moving away from this outdated model too. Today more quotes from the man about us playing at high intensity, "pressing all day" and so on. Ronaldo is finished here.
What a shame, our supporters might be the worse?
I think Ronaldo have been given a extended period off because he had a life changing experience last season. I think this is his last season if he's not considering retirement.
ETH probably wants him in the squad, and I think we need him, we won't buy 7 more players this season.
I think Ronaldo have been given a extended period off because he had a life changing experience last season. I think this is his last season if he's not considering retirement.
ETH probably wants him in the squad, and I think we need him, we won't buy 7 more players this season.
He's hardly a super presser compared to his peers - but he does press more than Ronaldo.
Personally, I just don't see Nagelsmann being interested. Surely they can fill the Lewa gap by doing something other (and more, say, progressive) than replacing him with a less productive player in what would presumably be roughly the same role.
Yes and yes. They press with high intensity and push their backline up into the opponent's half. Müller orchestrates the pressing, but Lewy is involved as well. And pretty good at it.
I wonder who next season's space goat.
What can I say, I'm an optimist. Even more now that Ten Hag runs the show.
He misses the full pre season, so he want start anyways, especially with a new manager and being 37
Nagelsmann is a very modern manager, a cross between Pep and Klopp, if Ronaldo goes there he'll have to press as hard as he'll here under ETH.
At this point its not worth it for this kind of managers.
Bayern will sell Lewandowski for 50m euros and buy Ronaldo for 20m.
That is the issue here, we are terrible at selling, both players want to leave, both 1 year yet we will get 30m less.
Well, amazed how you attempt to the degrade greatest goalsorer of all time, 5 times Ballon D’or winner, 5 times CL winner during his glorious years, by claiming him being the worst player on the pitch, stealing the limelight of his teammates, grabbing all the headlines, wasting chances after chances by shooting all over the pitch. I am sure his 680m followers are also stolen from his teammates too.
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