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Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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What a hit to prick's ego. Nobody wants him despite Mendes offering him to every club like a whore.
I would laugh but now we are stuck with unhappy player which we will try to resolve with new contract i bet
I would laugh but now we are stuck with unhappy player which we will try to resolve with new contract i bet
Chelsea stated that they met with Ronaldo representatives and decided not to proceed, but you need more proof that he wants to leave
the bayern board would have never made explicit and fairly detailed statements about not being interested in Ronaldo after their meeting with Mendes, if Ronaldo wouldn't have been a prominent topic of these talks.
Chelsea themselves stated or papers?Chelsea stated that they met with Ronaldo representatives and decided not to proceed, but you need more proof that he wants to leave
Are you aware of the fact that their baby was born on 18th April, and he DID come back to the club about a week later and played for the rest of the season?
Starting to get embarrasing on Ronaldos behalf this
Unless a journalist asked them. Nothing in what they said had anything to do with Mendes
Yes, it was mid season and it was prob easier for him to carry on and hold off the personal stuff. It might have been when he slowed down that it hit.
If you knew that, why did you write this:
Weird.
Also, you are completely missing my point that IF he is on compassionate leave due to the loss of his baby boy then I'm absolutely fine with that. My issue is with you stating the following:
"All we know for sure is that he's off on compassionate leave after his son died"
Because that statement just simply isn't true.
Nobody wants him because they are smart enough not to buy the tap-in merchant who offers feck all besides goals. I'm afraid we are stuck with him. I still remember when people laughed at me when I said it was a shite signing. Good times.
Because I know what it's like to have to compartmentalise when you're in the middle of a high pressure work environment. I've seen people power through deaths and then, when there's a lull, they crash. How do you think paramedics and firefighters deal with all their shit, they put it to side and deal with it when they can.
Ok, fine, we know he's off for family reasons, we know his family are dealing with the death of a child and the birth of a child. You don't take family time if things are going good (that's paternity leave), so if he's been given extended time of, it's because the club are compassionate about his home life.
The reason it's called compassionate leave is so it can be extended to more than just family, it could be for a friend, lover, pet etc, but family leave is a type of compassion.
No, you specifically wrote that you'd have 'lost respect for him' if he had come back to the club after a couple of weeks. Implying that you thought the incident had only just happened, and implying that you weren't aware of the fact that he had come back to the club after a week or so and finished the season. Since then he's also been on holiday and played for Portugal in the Nations League.
You stated that we know for sure that he's off for compassionate leave due to the death of his child, but the fact is we don't - what bit of that are you not understanding? The only facts that we know for sure are a) that he is apparently off for 'family reasons', and b) his agent has been hawking him all round Europe. He's not mentally ready to come back to United but he's clearly OK with finding a new club during that time. To be honest, if I was distraught from the loss of a child, and unable to go in to work the very last thing I would be interested in would be finding another job and having to uproot my family, but that's just me I guess.
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Would be great if an arab club could convince him to go, as we would probably get the biggest transfer fee from them.
Nope I think he’ll start on the bench as he’s missed too much pre season, then he’ll go and see his Dad Sir Alex who will say ;
“Look Son, you’ve been one of the best of all time but your 38 in Feb and no one’s a lazy 6 yard goal hanger apart from us because like you said at Madrid , United is your home so show everyone what they could have had by scoring 40 goals this season, ps if you help us win the Europa League your guaranteed another trophy, CL football next season and the chance to show everyone in super cup final your the best on the planet cause Messi not going be playing in the CL final with PSG now is he ?”
You’re probably one of the “SIUUUUUUU” people when he scorers.
Thank you Sir Alex for the encouragement.
I don't expect him to grieve at any particular time, as I said, I understand that you can compartmentalise for a short time. But you will have to deal with it the moment you have some mental space. If he didn't do it at all, then I would lose respect.
Do you think his "family reasons" are easy things that no one cares about, or were the club "compassionate" about a tough family situation.
Being allowed off for family reasons, is compassionate leave.
And as I mentioned before, Mendes has loads of clients, doesn't mean that journalists won't ask questions about Ronaldo
I just heard that no one wants Ronaldo. If he wishes he can join the amateur team I occasionally play with. We're all way past our prime and none of us like to run after the ball so he'll be in good company.
100%
Him and Mendes really shot themselves in the foot here
Wow, this is getting to be quite tiresome.
Firstly, you didn't say 'compassionate leave' in the general sense - i.e. the club being 'compassionate to him', you said it was fact that he was off for compassionate leave due to the death of his child. Are you able to admit that it's not factual to state that?
Secondly, whilst I'm not going to go in too hard on him in case this leave is genuinely down to some kind of serious family issue, I'm also not going to completely discount the fact that the timing is dodgy given what his agent is up to.
Thirdly you keep changing the narrative. First you would lose respect for him if he came back to the club within a couple of weeks, then you've changed to saying that actually coming back to the club within a couple of weeks is absolutely fine, as long as he grieves at some point. However you will definitely lose respect for him if he doesn't grieve at all - which in itself is a weird statement being as I don't think grief is something that you have much choice over, and even if you are able to shut it away somewhere that is likely to be down to deep-seated personal issues, and not something that you would 'lose respect' for someone over.
The mad thing is that I've been absolutely clear that if he is off due to delayed grief relating to his baby son's death back in April then I absolutely support him in that. All I've done is point out that we don't actually know whether that is the case.
You being hung up on me using the word compassionate is mental when there are loads of people in this thread calling him a cnut and a little shit and loads more, and you can't accept family reasons are compassionate reasons.
I haven't changed the narrative, I've explained why I believe he could have come back straight but still suffer from grief in the off season.
I have no idea what sources are credible and what arn’t, but anyone know if there is any truth at all to the mental offer from an unnamed Saudi Club?
And if Martial keeps working hard like last mach i rather he started anyway. (prepares for huge backlash from Ronaldo fanbois)
My guess is there is an offer. Whether Ronnie is interested is another story. If the reports of him wanting to play in CL are true, that pretty much puts the Saudi offer to bed. Would he go there and miss out on CL for the money offered? Perhaps. I just can‘t see him going to a league like that at this stage in his career. He’s still got something to offer for the right club and going there would pretty much write off the rest of his career.
Sell him to spurs for 30m. Is levy that much of a fool ?
Anyways i'd love to see the clash of ego's between ronaldo and conte with kane getting sandwiched in between.
Anyways i'd love to see the clash of ego's between ronaldo and conte with kane getting sandwiched in between.
Before Ronaldo's camp announced his intention to leave - No signings in sight. Our board seemed to be working on one signing at a time.
Ronaldo's camp makes noises - Arnold and Murtough fly their arses out to seal the deals, Eriksen verbally commits. Club is forced to finalize Martinez transfer this week.
Ronaldo's camp makes noises - Arnold and Murtough fly their arses out to seal the deals, Eriksen verbally commits. Club is forced to finalize Martinez transfer this week.
So what’s the latest? Is he joining up with the team for the games in Australia?
Ronaldo wants out, stop being a fanboi of ronaldo.
You should write CR7 fanfiction.
He will be a big problem if he stays. You don't want someone like him unhappy. I hope Bayern Munich come through after they sell Lewandowski, or maybe the Saudis who are ready to pay a higher fee.
And the PR machine started churning
Jesus. I'm not hung up on you using the word 'compassionate', I'm hung up on you saying that it is fact that he is off on compassionate leave due to the death of his son. It is not fact that is he is off for those reasons - family reasons could cover a multitude of things. It's not even fact that he's off for 'family reasons' - unless you know him and his situation personally then all we know is that that is what the club have briefed that they have been told.
And in a way it doesn't really matter, but I felt it needed calling out, because if you're berating people for being critical of Ronaldo then that is one thing - but don't state things as fact that aren't, or embellish your point with emotive language about the death of his son, when none of us know whether it's even related to that.
You literally said you would 'lose respect' for him if he came back straight away - seemingly unaware that that is exactly what he did
Ronaldo: Siuuu!!
Transfer market: Shooo!
Transfer market: Shooo!
Not to be pedantic but the line from the club is he's out for personal reasons which even widens the net for the reasons of his absence.
Yep!
He’s got egg all over his face, I really want him out even if that means Martial is our starting CF.
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