I'd say 'no'. The Athletic had a good article on how Ronaldo has essentially scored loads everywhere he went but the teams he was in didn't necessarily score more, just everything went to him.They mentioned Dybala's output dropping significantly, for instance. ETH is not going to do what the previous several managers did with trying to jam someone else's philosophy into his starting XI. Hopefully.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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No, if you can isolate what goes on the pitch from the dressing room . But given Ronaldo’s influence and stature (for better or for worse), its pretty much impossible I would think.
Surely if he HAS that big of influence, everyone would work harder and more determine; instead of the half-arsed performance majority of these players shown last year? It's well-known that Ronaldo wants to win trophies and plays in CL.
But instead you saw what happened to Rashford, Maguire, Shaw, AWB. Even Bruno couldn't hit a barn door, with so many open goal he missed.
Did the presence of Ronaldo make them did that? I fail to see the common sense on this. Maybe I'm just that stupid, I guess.
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Him wanting out I have no issue. Him not joining pre-season if to force a move is unacceptable.
Form and confidence dropped as a collective, but Ronaldo being here meant everyone had to change how they play, cover for Ronaldo being literally the most useless player in the top 5 leagues when it comes to defensive work (statistically, bottom 1%), doing not much else in the build up or off the ball movement... So he was just a black hole for any play. Rashford, Bruno, etc all can't play their normal games, team starts struggling, confidence plummets.
There were many other factors and not just Ronaldo, but it's no coincidence that no well run team wants anything to do with Ronaldo at this point, and that in back to back teams, they have struggled to get any success as a team with him in the team. He's 37. The time comes for everyone. But having him in the team is effectively playing with a red card until he gets the ball in the final 3rd and you hope he can score. And even there... He had a good third of the season where he was useless on the ball too.
He may have a mentality to win trophies but that doesn’t mean his influence will always be additive to the squad. Based on the reports, he seems to have wanted the captaincy. He might have thought hr would do a better job at that but ended up splitting the squad into camps. During Ralf’s intial periods, he didn’t agree with his methods based on the recent reports. Again, Ronaldo might have been right and thought he was doing it for the good but might have influenced the squad to undermine Ralf. Again, these are just some conjectures based on reports which may or may not be true
But the only actualy evidence that we have is that we regressed hugely when he came in.
and again, a bone-headed mentality monster Ronaldo of age 27 could do it all on his own so the influence might have been different with that Ronaldo. But he isn’t that anymore.
I once worked for a guy that is absolutely a narcissistic asshole. Guy is very rich, arrogant and self obsessed. The typical asshole.
The company was trying to sell several products that came from his idea. Tbh both his idea and the products are so shit that it's simply impossible to sell. We were trying our best to tell him that but that asshole flatly refused to believe. Instead he blamed everyone and fired any guy who dared to speak out.
Imo it must be quite the same with Ronaldo now.
Inter Miami and Ronaldo is a match made in heaven
Nailed it there.
I feel sad for all the fans who had bought tickets for the pre season games. He let them all down and also the sponsors who banked on him for this tour. The club would have struck a deal with him by letting him go after pre-season tour.
Isn't he fairly popular in Thailand? Too bad the folks there missed him. Maybe he will go to Leicester City. They will definitely do a summer tour of the country with Ronaldo.
I don’t think he will risk going to the USA…
He is risking being a bench warmer if he miss out on the preseason. If ETH train the front 3 on a certain style for 3 weeks in preseason then Ronaldo comes and want to break that system, then I cant see him starting any game regardless if the player upfront scores as much goals as Ronaldo or not, it is all about the squad's dynamics.
It was about squad dynamics last year as well, but he's a big star and managers are sometimes under pressure to play him.
I agree with you. I can't imagine someone that unprofessional walking in after refusing to show up to preseason and impudently demanding a starting spot and threatening to throw a tantrum otherwise.
The rot started since early of the season. That's why Ole was sacked. It's hard to believe a newcomer like him could influence the WHOLE dressing room that fast, and in weeks, made players play like buffoons.
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God how much I wish this is true, is this journalist any good?
Sorry I don't buy it. Even if he's a luxury player, it shouldn't make everyone change how they play. That's just total BS. Did we play amazing football when Ronaldo didn't play last season? Did we win many games when he didn't play?
I made example above. If Inzaghi (a well-known poacher only) play for City, would Ruben Diaz, Walker, KDB or Silva would need to change how they play?
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From what we know about ETH and his way to manage his teams, Ronaldo will be benched.
I suspect something like this. And the biggest problem of all, it'll bring the circus to old Trafford for another season and completely overshadow this fresh start.
Isn't he kinda popular in Thailand
They guy is viewed like a god in every country.
Just hope we find a team outside of England desperate to sign him.
People citing the second place finish and trying to pretend last year’s disaster was due to us buying Ronaldo will never not be funny to me.
Hopefully he's strong enough to bench and get rid players who can't perform to his standard. No more stupid United DNA or good vibe excuse.
You know more about him than I do. I hope you're right.
I dont know more than what I read about him, so I will not consider myself know more than anyone here. But from what we read about him, he will not be tolerant with Ronaldo.
Sir, I'm honoured but I am not even close to that award
. I just know that if I was him I wouldn't show up either but many people don't want to admit that they wouldn't but that's fine I will be honest .The window remains garbage and I'm pretty sure the manager isn't happy either so why are you? Are you even?
So because Ronaldo moves I will switch allegiances all of a sudden and throw away years of emotions and memories? You guys are priceless.
I didn't know our fanbase was so diverse till I came here. I learn something new every day.
You’re absolutely right that the cracks had begun to appear before he arrived, and scapegoating him for all the season’s woes is ridiculous.
I think the only individual player who has any right to point the finger at him is Bruno, whose usual freedom was certainly impeded by Ronaldo’s standing around and getting in his way. Sancho hardly seemed a good fit to be playing alongside him either; I’m not convinced Ole had ever really considered how he was going to be fitted in, but bringing in Ronaldo wasn’t ever going to help him.
Ronaldo’s lack of defensive effort did place an additional burden on the midfield though; how could it not? City’s midfield would similarly have to take on more defensively if the forwards did less.
Is Ruben Dias Harry Maguire in this analogy?
Correlation = causation sums up the IQ of most United fans. Good point that we were absolutely awful the second half of 20/21.
Seem to remember around the time we drew 0-0 with palace and thinking it was one of the worst performances I’ve seen from a United team. Also beaten at home by Leicester and the 4-2 drubbing by the scousers.
I got a feeling that we will do exactly as we want regardless of what he wants.
As much as people saying we would be much lower on the table without Ronaldo goals. Like magically, no one else would score instead.
would be pretty cool to see messi and ronaldo in the same side even just for 1 season
Yep
. Personally both extremes are incorrect. It could both be true that he wasn’t the sole cause of our woes, but also that signing him was a mistake and that contributed to our woes.And your point is obviously correct, as was proven in the season before his arrival.
I’m convinced that our poor fitness was a major contributor. Every season from Jose’s first onwards ended badly; look how terrible we were in the league when we won the Europa. The one exception was when we finished third in 2020. Surely correlation did = causation then: we’d had a nice three month lockdown break.
Which of the current Big 3 do you drop if you’re the brand new manager of PSG in order to start CR7 every match? I mean, we all know the obvious answer is Neymar but how would that work out politically?
PSG makes absolutely no sense at all.
PSG makes absolutely no sense at all.
That’s all a bit too sophisticated for the modern internet dweller. For them it has to be one or the other.Yep
Yep. Without a massive departure their end this is never happening.
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