[sullydnl]

Missed some great chances today, but the slagging here is OTT. The underlying problem with Ronaldo is that we’re asking too much of a player at his age.

But if we played him the appropriate amount he would unquestionably be unhappy.

 

[Bosnian_fan]

Can't do this in here apparently, you'll be painted as a butt kisser, Fan boy or any other narrative the majority in here believe because they fully blame Ronaldo on everything that goes wrong in every match.

Collectively we are crap, but it's solely Ronaldo's fault because he isn't carrying us like many either expected him to do or were really hoping he'd fail miserably at, sadly its the latter for now.

He is paid to make the difference, he doesn't. End of.

 

[Freak]

He’s done. The PL is too fast for him now. He needs to go to the US or France or Germany where he’ll still be good.

 

[Sayros]

He's done. I hope we can get him to leave and he prefers Portugal to making bank. Maybe PSG are dumb enough to pay us a fee.

I’ve seen this hoped a few times, but considering CR7 came to United in the first place because, in part, PSG didn’t consider his agent’s offer to sign him last summer, I can’t see them changing their mind after these performances.

 

[the_cliff]

So you think it is Ronaldo's fault that Greenwood raped his girlfriend, Cavani has reoccuring injuries and United decided to loan out Martial? Damn, Ronaldo really is a menace.

I think he was commenting on the fact that you said If Ronaldo wasn't 2 inches offside and if Elanga didn't clear Ronaldo's goal of the line or if the post was 2 inches more on the right he would've scored a goal.

1. Ronaldo has been offside the most in the league. Guess it's the rules fault, maybe we need to ask the FA to introduce a 'Ronaldo can't be offside rule' to counteract it.
2. Ronaldo had wide open space on the right to tuck it in, he shot it straight on Elanga and if Elanga wasn't there it would've hit the gk anyway, Ronaldo should be finishing that chance.
3. Ronaldo should've finished that chance.

In his last 10 games Ronaldo has taken 33 shots and a penalty and has scored 1 goal.

Yet, he get's the most excuses I've ever seen from a player that plays for United.

 

[-Supreme-]

He needs to be dropped, we can’t carry players in this current United team, he still demands the whole team to set up tap-ins for him, when he can’t finish and doesn’t offer much else on the pitch.

I hope we consider playing Bruno as a false 9 and push Pogba higher up the pitch, I would give Hannibal some first team appearances like Ralf has done with Elanga.

 

[Telsim]

Unfortunate, but he is utterly finished. What good is he when he can’t score? I think he can be an excellent sub, but he will never agree to that.

 

[jm99]

Never his fault.

Maybe it is his fault, but possibly the guy who's scored 40 goals a season for the past 15 years or whatever, then immediately after coming to United can barely hit 15 goals with 3/4 of the season played, in a team where pogba despite excelling for Juve and France has looked shit for most of his time, varane despite 4 champions League and a world cup looks pretty average, Di Maria when he was here was awful but great for Madrid and great for PSG, maybe we don't blame the guy who's been world class everywhere else and look at the club.

We have no idea how to manage him, rangnick should be resting him in the league games like this, coming on for the last 20 mins maybe. But we're running him into the ground because as usual with this club there's no planning. We're relying on two over 35 year olds as our only strikers

 

[Trex]

He is paid to make the difference, he doesn't. End of.

Exactly I sat there watching this game asking myself if we had Kane or Haaland playing centre forward today surely they score in a game like this.

 

[United in sin]

Missed some great chances today, but the slagging here is OTT. The underlying problem with Ronaldo is that we’re asking too much of a player at his age.

Then why sign him in the first place and make him the highest paid player in the league?

 

[evil_geko]

The amount of excuses Ronaldo gets on here is staggering, I would rather have Bebe instead of him at this point. That is how bad he is.

 

[jm99]

Would he accept a lesser role? Seen his reaction to being subbed? Or Sir Alex's comments when Ole put him on the bench? Look at his wages. Both he and the club wanted him to be the star.

We need to have a manager who's actually a strong personality, not just for Ronaldo but in general. As much as Ferguson is the ultimate United legend, what he thinks is really irrelevant, after his backing Moyes, any opinion he offered about the club should be taken with a pinch of salt. When Ronaldo was at Madrid, Zidane managed his minutes and the reward was the best champions League knockout campaigns of pretty much any player ever for 3 years in a row. We need someone who can do the same, a manager who doesn't let the players run the show

 

[ManchesterManchester]

Atleast after that game, the penny might be dropping for all of the deniers of Ronaldos age. Sorry guys he will never score 30 goals again, it’s not form, it’s not us, he’s just old and it happens to all of us, accept it.

Be happy you got to enjoy him here in his prime when he was younger, he’s had a hell of a career.

 

[Ali Dia]

Started off really well. Probably our most important player for the first ten games. Now fading fast into Sanchez territory (performance, little future prospect of improving, crazy wage, strong character, stuck with each other, made problems in the squad etc) just another terrible reactive transfer by a badly run club without a proper plan. Nothing to see here.

 

[hobbers]

If he wants to leave in the summer we should let him go for free. No question.

We're paying him £450k a week or thereabouts. Not worth a fraction of it for his overall contribution let alone the poor play in the box.

 

[Rozay]

Gasket blown.

 

[RedRonaldo]

He is clearly tired and should rest abit, we shouldn't play him every games. I've said it many times, we should rest him last PL match against Leeds, and we should rest him again this game. He should only start in Atletico games in the mid week. We can't play him full 90 mins every 3-4 days apart without any rest.

 

[Matt851]

I think he was commenting on the fact that you said If Ronaldo wasn't 2 inches offside and if Elanga didn't clear Ronaldo's goal of the line or if the post was 2 inches more on the right he would've scored a goal.

1. Ronaldo has been offside the most in the league. Guess it's the rules fault, maybe we need to ask the FA to introduce a 'Ronaldo can't be offside rule' to counteract it.
2. Ronaldo had wide open space on the right to tuck it in, he shot it straight on Elanga and if Elanga wasn't there it would've hit the gk anyway, Ronaldo should be finishing that chance.
3. Ronaldo should've finished that chance.

In his last 10 games Ronaldo has taken 33 shots and a penalty and has scored 1 goal.

Yet, he get's the most excuses I've ever seen from a player that plays for United.

Its because this place is riddled with pathetic cr7 fanboys who support Ronaldo over United. Many also seem to struggle with the concept of ageing, he was obviously a great player but isn't upto much anymore

 

[Jim Beam]

Would he accept a lesser role? Seen his reaction to being subbed? Or Sir Alex's comments when Ole put him on the bench? Look at his wages. Both he and the club wanted him to be the star.

True.... And pretty feckin crazy in hindsight.

 

[MichaelRed]

But if we played him the appropriate amount he would unquestionably be unhappy.

Why? He had no issues being rotated by Zidane. He doesn't like being subbed off when we're chasing a game but he never kicked up a fuss about not starting under Zidane. It also helped that RM could rotate him as they had alternatives, we do not.

 

[CloneMC16]

It's a damn shame that we have no other #9 that can play instead. He's been shocking for about 2 months now. Without Cavani, we have no other option. The only other option is to play Bruno as a false #9.

Why? He had no issues being rotated by Zidane. He doesn't like being subbed off when we're chasing a game but he never kicked up a fuss about not starting under Zidane. It also helped that RM could rotate him as they had alternatives, we do not.

The last time he got subbed, he had a massive meltdown in the stands? We were winning the game as well. A big issue is Cavani not being available. We don't have another striker to bring on.

 

[IhabX7]

He's not finished. He's extremely low on confidence in front of goal and in dribbling at the moment. The same goes for Bruno who missed the easier of the chances. Had Ronaldo or Bruno scored, which they were very very close to do, we'd have won by a few goals. The team is feeling the pressure and needed a bit of luck today. We need to get a new striker in his prime regardless if Ronaldo stays or not.

 

[MichaelRed]

Exactly I sat there watching this game asking myself if we had Kane or Haaland playing centre forward today surely they score in a game like this.

Kane?!?!?! I'm not going to comment on Haaland as we've never seen him in the PL but seriously? Kane? The guy that has less goals in more games than Ronaldo in the league this season?

 

[Adam-Utd]

He just can't move his feet fast enough anymore.

2/3 times he got the ball into his feet and couldn't shift them quickly enough to get passed his man or get a shot away.

It's really sad as you can tell he's thinking to himself wtf is going on?! why can't I do this anymore?

There was a moment he sat down on the touchline in the first half where I think you can tell he's thinking.... yeah this might be a bit too much.

If we manage to put the ball directly to his feet he can still get a shot away, but it's just not enough.

 

[MichaelRed]

The amount of excuses Ronaldo gets on here is staggering, I would rather have Bebe instead of him at this point. That is how bad he is.

Bro same. Bebe is lighting it up with 0 goals in 25 games this season. Take your vitriol somewhere else.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Time to be put out to pasture i feel. Prime ronaldo would have had a hatrick today.

 

[MrEleson]

4 games in 12 days has its toll on most, especially a 37 year old. Not a good performance though.

 

[Himannv]

I think he'll be more effective if he limits the time he spends on the pitch so that he's fresher and sharper. Too bad we don't have many alternative number 9s. Maybe Bruno as false 9 or some youngster can rotate with him.

 

[captaincantona]

Kane?!?!?! I'm not going to comment on Haaland as we've never seen him in the PL but seriously? Kane? The guy that has less goals in more games than Ronaldo in the league this season?

I would say you are literally the only person in this forum and in the world who would not swap Ronaldo for Harry Kane...neither in form...but one clearly capable of still performing at the highest level - did you watch Kane’s performance against City? And then did you watch Ronaldo running on to Bruno’s through ball and falling over at the end of the first half? Ronaldo is actually embarrassing to watch. Like a once great boxer being battered...it looks like the really ordinary defenders he plays against are almost feeling guilty to out muscle him so easy.

you are deluded.

 

[sullydnl]

Why? He had no issues being rotated by Zidane. He doesn't like being subbed off when we're chasing a game but he never kicked up a fuss about not starting under Zidane. It also helped that RM could rotate him as they had alternatives, we do not.

The appropriate amount for him to play at this point in his career involves him not being in our best 11 and not starting the biggest games but instead being an actual squad player. I don't for a second believe he'd happily sit out our major CL games, for example.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Kane?!?!?! I'm not going to comment on Haaland as we've never seen him in the PL but seriously? Kane? The guy that has less goals in more games than Ronaldo in the league this season?

Kane is levels ahead of current Ronaldo, just watch any of their last few games. He stopped playing for a while after he didn’t get his City move in the summer but he’s back on it now big time.

 

[Sandikan]

I've still loved having him back here, it's literally been the one highlight of the season really.

But we have a huge decision to make in the summer. Ralf has already said we need a striker in the summer, which is obvious with Cavani certain to go (he's kind of half gone already in fairness!), Greenwood finished and Rashford worrying us all that he's on a quick fire track to Everton/West Ham starter.

I think if he stays he needs to be more of a second striker off the main guy, and rotated as is appropriate. Whether Ronaldo fancies that is anyone's guess.
I do still think I'd want to see him under a new manager though, rather than Ralf's fire fighting 6months.

 

[Gavinb33]

Maybe it is his fault, but possibly the guy who's scored 40 goals a season for the past 15 years or whatever, then immediately after coming to United can barely hit 15 goals with 3/4 of the season played, in a team where pogba despite excelling for Juve and France has looked shit for most of his time, varane despite 4 champions League and a world cup looks pretty average, Di Maria when he was here was awful but great for Madrid and great for PSG, maybe we don't blame the guy who's been world class everywhere else and look at the club.

We have no idea how to manage him, rangnick should be resting him in the league games like this, coming on for the last 20 mins maybe. But we're running him into the ground because as usual with this club there's no planning. We're relying on two over 35 year olds as our only strikers

He has been rested plenty and subbed off and he throws a fecking hissy fit or the narrative is can't believe he left Ronaldo out etc

 

[Pyroblazer]

3 goals in the last 14 games if I didn't count wrong. One of them a pen.
In the same timeframe Bruno and Elanga scored more goals from open play. Sancho and Rashford in bad form the same amount of goals.
All of them bar Bruno played much less minutes and are regularly dropped. None of them are played as striker and took as many chances. They obviously also offer more in their all-around game.

So fair to say our team beeing useless and not creating anything is a bit of a myth when players around him can do the same output with less opportunities. Our team isn't firing on all cylinders, everyone knows that, but a decent striker would help us more than the other way around. I am not even talking about a world class striker who carries the team, no one is expecting that from Ronaldo either way.

When I look at his wages and status in the team it's kind of weird to say we shouldn't expect too much from him. Our club made the stupid decision to buy and play him all the time, but it's not like Ronaldo himself would accept to be dropped or not treated like he is atm.

 

[Sandikan]

Kane is levels ahead of current Ronaldo, just watch any of their last few games. He stopped playing for a while after he didn’t get his City move in the summer but he’s back on it now big time.

Kane has had 2 or 3 quality games after most of the season looking more shot away than someone a decade older.

 

[Zlaatan]

I think he was commenting on the fact that you said If Ronaldo wasn't 2 inches offside and if Elanga didn't clear Ronaldo's goal of the line or if the post was 2 inches more on the right he would've scored a goal.

1. Ronaldo has been offside the most in the league. Guess it's the rules fault, maybe we need to ask the FA to introduce a 'Ronaldo can't be offside rule' to counteract it.
2. Ronaldo had wide open space on the right to tuck it in, he shot it straight on Elanga and if Elanga wasn't there it would've hit the gk anyway, Ronaldo should be finishing that chance.
3. Ronaldo should've finished that chance.

In his last 10 games Ronaldo has taken 33 shots and a penalty and has scored 1 goal.

Yet, he get's the most excuses I've ever seen from a player that plays for United.

Yea the excuses are getting to a truly ridiculous point now. It used to be that a CF could have a fairly average game and then pop up with a goal and most would be fine with it, but with Ronnie it's turned into some sad version where for some people he only needs to make one or two good passes or make some runs that aren't picked out to supposedly do his part.

It's telling that the highest praise his most ardent fans can come up with every game is "he was involved in one of the goals" (meaning he made the 5m pass to the guy who passed to the guy who made the assist) or "he would've scored if X had happened".. I mean if that's the best you can do for the leagues top earner who is guaranteed to play 90min every single game for United then it's pretty obvious that he's pretty fecking shit.

 

[Lay]

He’s awful. Get rid.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

I think he was commenting on the fact that you said If Ronaldo wasn't 2 inches offside and if Elanga didn't clear Ronaldo's goal of the line or if the post was 2 inches more on the right he would've scored a goal.

1. Ronaldo has been offside the most in the league. Guess it's the rules fault, maybe we need to ask the FA to introduce a 'Ronaldo can't be offside rule' to counteract it.
2. Ronaldo had wide open space on the right to tuck it in, he shot it straight on Elanga and if Elanga wasn't there it would've hit the gk anyway, Ronaldo should be finishing that chance.
3. Ronaldo should've finished that chance.

In his last 10 games Ronaldo has taken 33 shots and a penalty and has scored 1 goal.

Yet, he get's the most excuses I've ever seen from a player that plays for United.

It is funny today too there’s no Maguire to blame for the result either, that had moved onto the next blame shifting agenda. In Ronaldo’s peak, that Watford team would have been seen as a hat-trick opportunity, never mind one goal. That’s his career bread and butter and he can’t even do it against Watford or Middlesbrough anymore. We managed to buy ‘one of the world’s best strikers’, play him all the time and somehow end up scoring significantly fewer goals. But ‘he’s not to blame’.

 

[jm99]

He has been rested plenty and subbed off and he throws a fecking hissy fit or the narrative is can't believe he left Ronaldo out etc

Well the manager needs to be strong enough to deal with it, Zidane was able to do it at Madrid and got the best out of Ronaldo as a result. Ole obviously was never going to be a strong enough manager to do so, but rangnick should, he knows he's going upstairs in the summer anyway, so he doesn't have to worry about Ronaldo trying to get him sacked or whatever.

Really the issue is we don't have an alternative, cavani is permanently unfit and rashford has been useless. Martial probably shouldn't have been loaned out, although the greenwood situation obviously didn't help at all

 

[WR10]

Let me make it clear.

We would have been challenging for the league title without Ronaldo this season