[Gehrman]

I know mate. But we could not care less, could we? He is deteriorating very fast, so needs to see the bench way more.

But that will upset his fanboys.

 

[DutchCruijff]

I'm not a fanboy but people are actually doubting Cristiano Ronaldo?

He's out of form, it happens. He'll be back.

 

[MrEleson]

I know mate. But we could not care less, could we? He is deteriorating very fast, so needs to see the bench way more.

On the bench for who exactly?

 

[Gehrman]

I'm not a fanboy but people are actually doubting Cristiano Ronaldo?

He's out of form, it happens. He'll be back.

I'm doubting that idea that his age isn't impacting his ability. His overall performances have been average across the board, but sometimes he's been able to nick a goal to cover it up. He's still got in him to be usefull, but yes I'm doubting.

 

[Deery]

2 goals in 8 games since Rangnick has taken over. 1 non penalty goal.

We haven’t exactly been banging them in since Rangnick took over.

 

[KennyBurner]

On the bench for who exactly?

I would start Elanga ahead of him because we need the body. Elanga is not technically better than Ronaldo but who cares about technique when you can’t threaten any defender? We need action and Ronaldo is just a passenger.

 

[Deery]

I'm not a fanboy but people are actually doubting Cristiano Ronaldo?

He's out of form, it happens. He'll be back.

Don’t bother they’re all Messi fans.

 

[Baneofthegame]

Don’t think he will be here beyond this season.

 

[Josh 76]

We haven’t exactly been banging them in since Rangnick took over.

Isn’t that the reason why Ronaldo is getting paid 500k a week for ?

 

[KennyBurner]

I'm not a fanboy but people are actually doubting Cristiano Ronaldo?

He's out of form, it happens. He'll be back.

He just turned 37. Do players not deteriorate at some point? Why do you think he is the same player he was at Madrid?

 

[Deery]

Isn’t that the reason why Ronaldo is getting paid 500k a week for ?

No.

 

[Gehrman]

Don’t bother they’re all Messi fans.

For a few it might be about that. For others it might just be a kind of realism. We can't pretend Ronaldo will be ageless in ability untill he retires. He'll get to some kind of form yeah, but world class Ronaldo form? Dunno about that. He'll have his moments for sure. Now that we're out of the FA cup we only have the CL and the top 4 trophy to fight for. It'll be interesting to see if he can keep his stellar record against athletico.

 

[Red00012]

Isn’t that the reason why Ronaldo is getting paid 500k a week for ?

Check your sources he’s not on 500K not even close pal

 

[Josh 76]

No.

Oh, I thought Utd brought Ronaldo to score goals, but your right, he was brought for commercial revenue.

 

[Josh 76]

Check your sources he’s not on 500K not even close pal

400k?

 

[Gehrman]

He just turned 37. Do players not deteriorate at some point? Why do you think he is the same player he was at Madrid?

It's kind weird to think because he'll still got a six pack and all that stuff to think that his ability will remain the same untill he retires.

 

[Gehrman]

Sounds like you have a very different understanding to me of what that word means in a footballing context. He’s never been a remotely cerebral footballer.

I think his reading of the game(off the ball movement) and ability to fine tune his game became really good. It just sometimes in the past he'd a bit of a selfish player taking too many needless shots from far out.

 

[Deery]

For a few it might be about that. For others it might just be a kind of realism. We can't pretend Ronaldo will be ageless in ability untill he retires. He'll get to some kind of form yeah, but world class Ronaldo form? Dunno about that. He'll have his moments for sure. Now that we're out of the FA cup we only have the CL and the top 4 trophy to fight for. It'll be interesting to see if he can keep his stellar record against athletico.

I was disappointed in him last night and think it was possibly his worst game for us, it’s great to have him here and I expect him to play better but going by the eye test it’s getting a little worrying.

 

[phelans shorts]

Don’t bother they’re all Messi fans.

I couldn’t care less about supporting a singular player.

The fact is we signed a striker who we shouldn’t for a large number of reasons, who’s been playing awful for a long time and requires everything set up to his strengths, which aren’t actually his strengths any more. It hinders any attempt at developing the squad that Ralf is making and leaves us hamstrung.

 

[Frasbul]

I honestly think that Ole would still be here, if we hadn't signed him. We'd probably on par with Chelsea and still far off City and Pool but actually solid like last season.

 

[mctrials23]

The only reason he is being indulged is because he is supposed to be so clinical. Give him the chances and he will score, the rest doesn't matter was the line from some of you. Well what about when hes not scoring. We should have been out of sight yesterday with the number of chances we had. Ronaldo could/probably should have had 3.

If hes not banging in the chances he gets then he should be used as a sub.

 

[KennyBurner]

For a few it might be about that. For others it might just be a kind of realism. We can't pretend Ronaldo will be ageless in ability untill he retires. He'll get to some kind of form yeah, but world class Ronaldo form? Dunno about that. He'll have his moments for sure. Now that we're out of the FA cup we only have the CL and the top 4 trophy to fight for. It'll be interesting to see if he can keep his stellar record against athletico.

That last sentence is exactly the problem. Ronaldos incredible athletico record came when he was still a physical specimen yet we are acting like he is that same player at 37 and so can maybe produce that same form. It’s not going to happen and many need to realize this.

We play him against athletico and we will lose due to the handicap.

 

[Deery]

I honestly think that Ole would still be here, if we hadn't signed him. We'd probably on par with Chelsea and still far off City and Pool but actually solid like last season.

No we wouldn’t, Ole still would have gotten sacked.

 

[Gehrman]

I was disappointed in him last night and think it was possibly his worst game for us, it’s great to have him here and I expect him to play better but going by the eye test it’s getting a little worrying.

Dunno, going by the eyetest, he's imo only had a few good games, but sometimes made up for it during the shit/average ones by nicking a goal. Atm his scoring record in the CL for us this season is what's keeping his reputation this season up. Best games in the PL were Arsenal and Spurs.

 

[Gehrman]

That last sentence is exactly the problem. Ronaldos incredible athletico record came when he was still a physical specimen yet we are acting like he is that same player at 37 and so can maybe produce that same form. It’s not going to happen and many need to realize this.

We play him against athletico and we will lose due to the handicap.

He's still a monster header of the ball and yes despite yesterday rarely misses a penalty. By yeah his heading ability is still one of his greatest assets. Unfortunately Wan Bissaka is terrible at crossing.

 

[Deery]

The only reason he is being indulged is because he is supposed to be so clinical. Give him the chances and he will score, the rest doesn't matter was the line from some of you. Well what about when hes not scoring. We should have been out of sight yesterday with the number of chances we had. Ronaldo could/probably should have had 3.

If hes not banging in the chances he gets then he should be used as a sub.

Ronaldo only really had one chance apart from the overhead kick, but I thought he should have done better with it.

 

[KennyBurner]

It's kind weird to think because he'll still got a six pack and all that stuff to think that his ability will remain the same untill he retires.

That is what is driving me insane. It’s like asking a war veteran at 75 to go back to the field and produce amazing results. Every sane person knows it’s not realistic yet Ronaldo at 37 which is way past retirement age for footballers we are pretending that he is the same player?

Forget the fan base but someone in management actually thought it was a good idea to bring him back as a starter? This will be a talking point years from now in a documentary.

 

[mctrials23]

I couldn’t care less about supporting a singular player.

The fact is we signed a striker who we shouldn’t for a large number of reasons, who’s been playing awful for a long time and requires everything set up to his strengths, which aren’t actually his strengths any more. It hinders any attempt at developing the squad that Ralf is making and leaves us hamstrung.

Their post says more about them that it does anyone else. Most people with half a brain don't dislike Ronaldo or Messi because they like the other one more. We aren't 7.

Some of our fans can't quite understand that football is a team sport and the team is far more important than the individual. Ronaldo is causing issues in the team with his lack of work rate and greediness amongst other things and the only way he can justify that is if he is banging in goals for fun. He isn't. Therefore...

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I think his reading of the game(off the ball movement) and ability to fine tune his game became really good. It just sometimes in the past he'd a bit of a selfish player taking too many needless shots from far out.

I’m not really talking about the ability to read the game. It’s how he plays the game. It’s all about being stronger and quicker than his opponents. He smashes the ball into the net. Wins towering headers. Beats defenders for pace. He’s never had much guile or subtlety in his game. Once his athleticism fades there’s not much left.

 

[DutchCruijff]

He just turned 37. Do players not deteriorate at some point? Why do you think he is the same player he was at Madrid?

There is deterioration and then there is "finished".

He is nowhere near "finished".

His deficiency is the lack of build up play and pressing, these have been issues for many, many years now, even during at Madrid too.

 

[Josh 76]

I honestly think that Ole would still be here, if we hadn't signed him. We'd probably on par with Chelsea and still far off City and Pool but actually solid like last season.

When we signed Ronaldo and some Utd fans were celebrating like we had won the league, I said at the time, This will be the final nail in Oles coffin!

 

[phelans shorts]

I’m not really talking about the ability to read the game. It’s how he plays the game. It’s all about being stronger and quicker than his opponents. He smashes the ball into the net. Wins towering headers. Beats defenders for pace. He’s never had much guile or subtlety in his game. Once his athleticism fades there’s not much left.

Yeah, I don’t understand the cerebral talk either. He ain’t Teddy Sheringham.

 

[Zevvythered]

There is deterioration and then there is "finished".

He is nowhere near "finished".

His deficiency is the lack of build up play and pressing, these have been issues for many, many years now, even during at Madrid too.

Tend to disagree, his pace is gone, can’t remember him winning a header last night , and let’s not talk about his finishing!! Struggle to see what he brings now to the team, gutted to say this but bye bye Ronnie

 

[Gehrman]

That is what is driving me insane. It’s like asking a war veteran at 75 to go back to the field and produce amazing results. Every sane person knows it’s not realistic yet Ronaldo at 37 which is way past retirement age for footballers we are pretending that he is the same player?

Forget the fan base but someone in management actually thought it was a good idea to bring him back as a starter? This will be a talking point years from now in a documentary.

It's because of him being Seria A topscorer in the previous season and his record for portugal.

 

[Gehrman]

I’m not really talking about the ability to read the game. It’s how he plays the game. It’s all about being stronger and quicker than his opponents. He smashes the ball into the net. Wins towering headers. Beats defenders for pace. He’s never had much guile or subtlety in his game. Once his athleticism fades there’s not much left.

I guess when you mean it in that kind way then yeah.

 

[Gehrman]

There is deterioration and then there is "finished".

He is nowhere near "finished".

His deficiency is the lack of build up play and pressing, these have been issues for many, many years now, even during at Madrid too.

Well the conversation is whether his good enough now to be the main striker for Man Utd at his current level. Luckily for him there isn't much competetion.

 

[KennyBurner]

He's still a monster header of the ball and yes despite yesterday rarely misses a penalty. By yeah his heading ability is still one of his greatest assets. Unfortunately Wan Bissaka is terrible at crossing.

We are not a team setup for that. We never have so his headers are irrelevant. What we require from him is good linkup and ability to take on or drive 1v1. He is too weak on the ball for that and would rather flick it immediately when he gets it. It’s also not a secret that his passes are shite so do you see our current dilemma?

The problem I foresaw when bringing him was having to sacrifice others tactically to support him. There is no big team in the world willing to do this. Chelsea won’t even do it for their 100m striker Lukaku which has seen him struggle and they are okay with it. Every big team focuses more on their team balance while we focus on how to support Ronaldo’s career.

 

[Bobski]

As a player this year is meaningless for that concept so many are obsessed with, His Legacy. Same goes for Messi at PSG, a poor year at this stage of their career makes no difference to the perception of the player long term. So his defenders don't have to be so sensitive to criticism of him, he is losing nothing, it is ok to accept that these guys age and the sport moves on.

 

[Gehrman]

We are not a team setup for that. We never have so his headers are irrelevant. What we require from him is good linkup and ability to take on or drive 1v1. He is too weak on the ball for that and would rather flick it immediately when he gets it. It’s also not a secret that his passes are shite so do you see our current dilemma?

The problem I foresaw when bringing him was having to sacrifice others tactically to support him. There is no big team in the world willing to do this. Chelsea won’t even do it for their 100m striker Lukaku which has seen him struggle and they are okay with it. Every big team focuses more on their team balance while we focus on how to support Ronaldo’s career.

I wasn't never a fan of signing Ronaldo from Juventus unless he could 100% a team player. So yeah, I see your dilemma.

 

[Widow]

Truth hurts huh? Fecked off to spend his prime years with Real and you consider him a legend? Pathetic

Won nine trophies with us. Your tilted version of the true is nothing more than button smashing muppetry. Pathetic and immature!