[BlueHaze]

All these walls of text arguing over nothing. We all know he won't be here next season as we are likely to miss out on top 4. We all know he puts his records above anything else and he will want to play in the CL.

 

[bakalhau]

Unfortunately all of what you 'see' can't be proven by any statistic. There's no statistic that can measure the best attitude or most professionalism. Although judging by the other members of the squad I wouldn't be surprised if that is 100% true.

However, he has the lowest number of presses and defensive actions out of all our attackers, so what you 'see' might not entirely be true.

He also only has 6 non penalty goals in the league. So I don't know where you're getting 'he's constantly bailed us out' from.

People in here are criticising his average league performances which is quite fair. I'm sorry but maybe for you all other aspects of his game that don't translate to the actual football pitch is worth him starting but for me it isn't.

There are plenty of players in world football that have the best attitude and most professionalism but still aren't good enough to play up front for Manchester United.

I don't want to get into an argument with everyone here - I'm not against criticism on him, at all. That I made sure I wrote several times in my post. The bailouts are what you expect of him (which I also wrote), this is what he's here for to help, score important goals, as many as he can, and help the team in other areas, which he's shown he's willing to do.

The extremists just leave me baffled, and extremists are the ones saying those arguments I posted above. Nothing of what you said was in any of my points above, therefore, I don't wanna tackle your post because as much as I may agree, or disagree, it's a fair assessment from you, and it shows the minimum level of education towards him, and I commend you for that. What I don't think its fair for the dude is the insanity levels on other things that are incredibly speculative and honestly, wild by any metric of logic and reasoning.

I'll always be partial with Ronaldo too, for the good side, like some people seem to also be with him for the bad side, I love him and he's been a big inspiration for me personally - but you don't see me posting here some insane, wildly wrong and speculative things like "the team doesn't deserve him!", or "he's too good for this club", or "he's been the best player in europe this season", or personally attacking other members no matter how much I disagree, or spouting stuff in other player's threads like "he doesn't put a cross in for my dude, he sucks", "he's selfish and should've passed to Ronnie!".

The truth lies somewhere in between my view on his time here so far, and the other spectrum on the other end from other fellows here. Neither has he been as fantastic has in my own personal thoughts, neither has he been as dreadful as people make it out to be, and he's not an angel, or a perfect person with no faults, but neither is he an evil person which forces his will on everyone.

 

[the_cliff]

I don't want to get into an argument with everyone here - I'm not against criticism on him, at all. That I made sure I wrote several times in my post. The bailouts are what you expect of him (which I also wrote), this is what he's here for to help, score important goals, as many as he can, and help the team in other areas, which he's shown he's willing to do.

The extremists just leave me baffled, and extremists are the ones saying those arguments I posted above. Nothing of what you said was in any of my points above, therefore, I don't wanna tackle your post because as much as I may agree, or disagree, it's a fair assessment from you, and it shows the minimum level of education towards him, and I commend you for that. What I don't think its fair for the dude is the insanity levels on other things that are incredibly speculative and honestly, wild by any metric of logic and reasoning.

I'll always be partial with Ronaldo too, for the good side, like some people seem to also be with him for the bad side, I love him and he's been a big inspiration for me personally - but you don't see me posting here some insane things like "the team doesn't deserve him!", or "he's too good for this club", or "he's been the best player in europe this season", or personally attacking other members no matter how much I disagree, or spouting stuff in other player's threads like "he doesn't put a cross in for my dude, he sucks", "he's selfish and should've passed to Ronnie!".

The truth lies somewhere in between my view on his time here so far, and the other spectrum on the other end from other fellows here. Neither has he been as fantastic has in my own personal thoughts, neither has he been as dreadful as people make it out to be, and he's not an angel, or a perfect person with no faults, but neither is he an evil person which forces his will on everyone.

Good post. I agree, people saying he'd take a hattrick if it meant losing the game are being disrespectful tbh but I do think the majority of the people in here have fair points when criticising his league performances.

When it comes to the UCL he has performed generally, a lot better and this is the worrying thing for me, that maybe English football is a bit too much for him at this age. But when I mention this people act like I'm being blasphemous as if a 36-37 year old won't lose some of his ability over time.

 

[mancan92]

Are you implying that changes can only come from outside but not inside? Players who is already at Man UTD can't change their attitude or performance? Also we were knocked out of UCL last year and not this year, can we attribute that to Ronaldo follow the same logic?

Are you implying that other team can't change from last season? Other team can't adapt to us at all?

If you are not implying these points above then what's the logic behind that bolded text?

I am not even here to defend Ronaldo, I think we should drop him as building a team around a 36 year old striker make zero sense, I just find your logic funny.



Personally I think Greenwood shows some very nice pass, dribbling and vision recently. He deserve a run as our main forward (of course he also needs to work very hard) as he's very very talented. Ronaldo can't keep playing as well since his body is obviously not up to it.



The fact that you think you can use number as a "solid proof" to a player's performance is just not right. If it's that simple then we should never have any argument on Ballon D'or and the like.

And comparing his stat to other like Salah for example, doesn't mean anything. We don't need stat to know Salah is better than Ronaldo right now, but Salah plays for Liverpool not us. He doesn't get selected over some of the superior striker like Salah or Haaland, or some other players you mentioned in your post.

Also, different team, different expectation, different pressure. A lot of lesser players feels at home at smaller club, they may have better stat now but that doesn't mean they will have the same good stat if they play at United.

All in all, there are too many more variables that can affect these stat that you may not consider. You said it yourself, you "haven't even mentioned the climate in the dressing room" - what if his "underperforming" is because other player is jealous of him or just don't like losing their place to him? The point is, in order to actually objectively assets something by number, it require a lot more detailed paper, especially in a game with a lot of unpredictable element like football. Why do you think just 1 post can provide an "objectively solid proof" to a player's performance and effect is beyond me. I appreciate your opinion as we all have one, but this is just not fact.



That's correct but while he himself still maintain that mentality, his body and skill doesn't show it anymore, so maybe he should changes his approach to other players a bit.

I mean no player has ever complained about Ronaldo in the dressing room so that's all pointless speculation based on absolutely nothing because he has no history of annoying teammates.

 

[Pegi]

People shouldn't expect every hyped English player will turn out to be world class. Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho, Foden, Bellingham etc. I'd say out of these 5, only 1 might be considered as the top 10 player in the world at some point, but even that is nowhere near guaranteed.

You got Greenwood, Rashford and Sancho and if you really believe that all of them will be world class and will be carrying your team for years to come, you're wrong. It just won't happen and Cavani + Ronaldo are nothing but essential for you. True pros, true work ethic and ain't playing for fashion and fame. On top of that, they have way better football brain than all those young kids.

Actually if you look at the best teams in PL, not many of them are having too many english players in their starting 11. You have like Shaw, Maguire, AWB, Sancho, Greenwood, Rashford and i'd even count McTominay on there. It just won't happen that you suddenly have all the best talent in UK on your starting lineup, because football is world wide sport and competition comes all around the world.

Fact is, Varane, Ronaldo, Cavani, De Gea, Fernandes etc. are way more professional than your english talent. Maybe that's the reason you're doing bad at the moment.

 

[Marwood]

Unfortunately all of what you 'see' can't be proven by any statistic. There's no statistic that can measure the best attitude or most professionalism. Although judging by the other members of the squad I wouldn't be surprised if that is 100% true.

However, he has the lowest number of presses and defensive actions out of all our attackers, so what you 'see' might not entirely be true.

He also only has 6 non penalty goals in the league. So I don't know where you're getting 'he's constantly bailed us out' from.

People in here are criticising his average league performances which is quite fair. I'm sorry but maybe for you all other aspects of his game that don't translate to the actual football pitch is worth him starting but for me it isn't.

There are plenty of players in world football that have the best attitude and most professionalism but still aren't good enough to play up front for Manchester United.

It's way more than that. He's being held responsible for the form of other players.

Call me crazy but those guys not performing, I hold them responsible.

 

[DutchCruijff]

He is NOT the problem. Yes, he should be pressing more, he is capable of it. But this formation and the personnel? Jeez.

His movement and acceleration is still sharp. The team needs to be creating the chances. He'd be feasting on them.

And I also think he has been shocked at how shit the standards are at the club. When he was at the club, there was SAF + Keane, when he was leaving, the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, van der Sar, Giggs, Neville and Scholes were there alongside SAF.

Who has he come back to? Maguire and Shaw? Lingard and Rashford?

Fvck off! Absolute clowns.

 

[DutchCruijff]

All these walls of text arguing over nothing. We all know he won't be here next season as we are likely to miss out on top 4. We all know he puts his records above anything else and he will want to play in the CL.

He will surprise a lot of fans and will stay on.

He doesn't have any options other than PSG and they'd be foolish to go for him. And Ronaldo will take greater pride in staying on at United and trying to drag them back to the top.

 

[D. Grayson]

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Ronaldo will take greater pride in staying on at United and trying to drag them back to the top.

Just like the pride he showed last time, when he compared playing for the club to slavery... The sooner he is gone the quicker we can start getting back to the somewhat promising position we were in under Ole before "CR7" came along.

 

[Oranges038]

I mean no player has ever complained about Ronaldo in the dressing room so that's all pointless speculation based on absolutely nothing because he has no history of annoying teammates.

I was listening to some reporter on the radio, he mentioned that Ronaldo has annoyed players at the club because he has such high standards and demands so much that they feel he is asking too much of them.

Or the rumours that his apparent undroppable status is frustrating his mates.

 

[mancan92]

I was listening to some reporter on the radio, he mentioned that Ronaldo has annoyed players at the club because he has such high standards and demands so much that they feel he is asking too much of them.

Or the rumours that his apparent undroppable status is frustrating his mates.

Hilarious unfortunately I can imagine it. Probably why they are complaining about Ralph aswell.

 

[ROFLUTION]

He is NOT the problem. Yes, he should be pressing more, he is capable of it. But this formation and the personnel? Jeez.

His movement and acceleration is still sharp. The team needs to be creating the chances. He'd be feasting on them.

And I also think he has been shocked at how shit the standards are at the club. When he was at the club, there was SAF + Keane, when he was leaving, the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, van der Sar, Giggs, Neville and Scholes were there alongside SAF.

Who has he come back to? Maguire and Shaw? Lingard and Rashford?

Fvck off! Absolute clowns.

Ronaldo actually presses quite often under Ralph. It's not hard to find examples and the last couple of matches opponents have resorted to play the ball via long balls and lost it after Ronaldo started to press.

He clearly wants to adapt and help in ways he can. Not the diva/primadonna he is made out to be.

 

[pratyush_utd]

If Ronaldo thinks he should be consulted on next manager appointment then he is welcome to leave.

 

[United in sin]

If Ronaldo thinks he should be consulted on next manager appointment then he is welcome to leave.

I really dislike him. He might as well feck off already seeing as both Pochettino and Ten Hag like to press aggressively when out of possession.

Ronaldo was against Juventus replacing Allegri with Conte at Juventus for the same reasons. Mourinho branded him lazy at Real Madrid and that's what caused their rift. We really don't need his drama

 

[Smores]

If Ronaldo thinks he should be consulted on next manager appointment then he is welcome to leave.

The source is the Daily Star for crying out loud.

 

[The United]

I really dislike him. He might as well feck off already seeing as both Pochettino and Ten Hag like to press aggressively when out of possession.

Ronaldo was against Juventus replacing Allegri with Conte at Juventus for the same reasons. Mourinho branded him lazy at Real Madrid and that's what caused their rift. We really don't need his drama

You have a lot of sources. Jose was in fight with almost every big players at that point. Ronaldo might be lazy for him. But look what he and the team achieved after Jose left there. They would say good riddance to that.

 

[glazed]

If Ronaldo thinks he should be consulted on next manager appointment then he is welcome to leave.

Ronaldo is not on board the high press train. He has in fact tied himself to the tracks in front of it. I'm not for hitting the brakes...

 

[United in sin]

You have a lot of sources. Jose was in fight with almost every big players at that point. Ronaldo might be lazy for him. But look what he and the team achieved after Jose left there. They would say good riddance to that.

The crux of the matter is Mourinho found Ronaldo wanting in the workrate department.

Real could afford to carry him and let him have a free role, same as he did at United before he left, but that won't fly in the set up we're going for.

Ronaldo is simply selfish as he won't go the distance and sacrifice more to achieve the bigger win with the team. He's all about being catered to. We can't afford to sacrifice so much for a 37 year old on the way out.

 

[SonyaCross493]

Whether it's right or wrong, the media and even Manchester United fans are going to blame him for the season going badly.. he's the most famous player and is the shield for the other players to hide behind..

sad way to end his career after all the hard work and sacrifice to become the best. With the media and fans basically kicking him when he's down.. he doesn't deserve to end his career like this it's sad to see..

I hope there's still something more in there.. that fire in his belly to come back one last time when everyone has written him off to show he's a proud man and athlete against the odds defying logic and age.. and lead this team to getting Top 4 (which from this point would be a miracle in itself) and winning a trophy. And then he can retire on a happy note and not like it's currently heading..

but maybe that's just the romantic side of me.. but I would love to see it.. who wants there last memories of CR7 to be this!? It's not right..

most of these Manchester United players will go to other clubs etc so they might not care but for Ronaldo this is it.. there is no second chance it's really his last dance.. it's now or never..

 

[Bebestation]

Whether it's right or wrong, the media and even Manchester United fans are going to blame him for the season going badly..

sad way to end his career after all the hard work and sacrifice to become the best. With the media and fans basically kicking him when he's down.. he doesn't deserve to end his career like this it's sad to see..

I hope there's still something more in there.. that fire in his belly to come back one last time when everyone has written him off to show he's a proud man and athlete against the odds defying logic and age.. and lead this team to getting Top 4 and winning a trophy. And then he can retire on a happy note and not like it's currently heading..

but maybe that's just the romantic side of me.. but I would love to see it.. who wants there last memories of CR7 to be this!?

most of these Manchester United players will go to other clubs etc but for Ronaldo this is it.. there is no second chance it's really his last dance.. it's now or never..

Ronaldo will retire at Sporting Lisbon. He is not going to retire at United in my opinion.

 

[Rojow]

Ronaldo will retire at 40 at least. He wants to secure his records.

 

[KingCavani]

If Ronaldo thinks he should be consulted on next manager appointment then he is welcome to leave.

John Cross and the Daily Star.

 

[SonyaCross493]

The season is still salvageable in the 2nd half of the season.

Getting Top 4 and winning the FA Cup or CL would be a good season. Considering we wasn't favourites to win the league at the start of the season anyway we was always 3rd or 4th favourites nobody expected United to win the League even with Ronaldo. City's Oil money that's got them an amazing squad is too difficult for even Liverpool to complete against. The only way United will be able to compete with City is with new owners that can match City owners in terms of wealth, otherwise we are not competing on the same level playing field. City are making the League a joke it's not entertaining to see them running away with it. There's no pride in it surely knowing you only achieved it through Sheikh and Oil money.. yeah you might enjoy the moment as a fan but when you look back on it you know City would be nowhere near where they are without the Sheikh it's emptiness. It's like a Chav winning the lottery.. it must feel great but there's no sense of achievement there.

if Ronaldo can be a massive part of United getting Top 4 and winning a trophy, he can repair his reputation which has taken a hit recently.

and I hope he does as I feel sorry for him.. nobody wants the career to end like this on a whimper especially someone like him it seems wrong he doesn't deserve that.. and the Dossers in the team are hiding behind Ronaldo and blaming him for the poor season and getting off with it Scot free while Ronaldo takes all the blame from the press/media and fans. Spineless Cowards getting away with murder need calling out.

 

[Ladron de redcafe]

The season is still salvageable in the 2nd half of the season.

Getting Top 4 and winning the FA Cup or CL would be a good season. Considering we wasn't favourites to win the league at the start of the season anyway we was always 3rd or 4th favourites nobody expected United to win the League even with Ronaldo. City's Oil money that's got them an amazing squad is too difficult for even Liverpool to complete against. The only way United will be able to compete with City is with new owners that can match City owners in terms of wealth, otherwise we are not competing on the same level playing field. City are making the League a joke it's not entertaining to see them running away with it. There's no pride in it surely knowing you only achieved it through Sheikh and Oil money.. yeah you might enjoy the moment as a fan but when you look back on it you know City would be nowhere near where they are without the Sheikh it's emptiness. It's like a Chav winning the lottery.. it must feel great but there's no sense of achievement there.

if Ronaldo can be a massive part of United getting Top 4 and winning a trophy, he can repair his reputation which has taken a hit recently.

and I hope he does as I feel sorry for him.. nobody wants the career to end like this on a whimper especially someone like him it seems wrong he doesn't deserve that.. and the Dossers in the team are hiding behind Ronaldo and blaming him for the poor season and getting off with it Scot free while Ronaldo takes all the blame from the press/media and fans. Spineless Cowards getting away with murder need calling out.

We were 2nd place without him last season. Regressing and getting 4th spot wasn't the target when he was signed and his fanboys wrote paragraphs of text claiming he'll win the league.

If he wants to repair his reputation (as you put it), he needs to elevate his play because he's been a massive disappointment.

 

[Ladron de redcafe]

Unfortunately all of what you 'see' can't be proven by any statistic. There's no statistic that can measure the best attitude or most professionalism. Although judging by the other members of the squad I wouldn't be surprised if that is 100% true.

However, he has the lowest number of presses and defensive actions out of all our attackers, so what you 'see' might not entirely be true.

He also only has 6 non penalty goals in the league. So I don't know where you're getting 'he's constantly bailed us out' from.

People in here are criticising his average league performances which is quite fair. I'm sorry but maybe for you all other aspects of his game that don't translate to the actual football pitch is worth him starting but for me it isn't.

There are plenty of players in world football that have the best attitude and most professionalism but still aren't good enough to play up front for Manchester United.

Excellent post. I would add that many don't consider throwing your arms around and whinging non-stop while contributing next to nothing to team play leadership, but that's subjective.

 

[Siezard]

I really dislike him. He might as well feck off already seeing as both Pochettino and Ten Hag like to press aggressively when out of possession.

Ronaldo was against Juventus replacing Allegri with Conte at Juventus for the same reasons. Mourinho branded him lazy at Real Madrid and that's what caused their rift. We really don't need his drama

Wait till you win the Champ League!

 

[pratyush_utd]

The source is the Daily Star for crying out loud.

John Cross and the Daily Star.

Source is David McDonnell who is United Correspondent for Mail. If i remember correctly he was the one who broke Mourinho story before Newcastle game

 

[VanDeBank]

Ronaldo left Juventus so i assume Juventus is much better this season?

Yep Juve is still hot garbage.

Also how is Dybala not pulling up any trees. I thought Ronnie was holding him back?

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Dybala?

I haven't exactly followed Juve closely this season, I assume he hasn't been overly impressive like the rest of the team.

He seems to have scored more already than he did last season, though.

In the league he has 5 goals in 14 games. During Ronaldo's stay at the club he had:

5/30
11/33
4/20

The season before Ronaldo arrived?

22/33

Arguably not the greatest example to pull out if the intention is to portray Ronaldo in the best possible light.

 

[troylocker]

Whether it's right or wrong, the media and even Manchester United fans are going to blame him for the season going badly.. he's the most famous player and is the shield for the other players to hide behind..

sad way to end his career after all the hard work and sacrifice to become the best. With the media and fans basically kicking him when he's down.. he doesn't deserve to end his career like this it's sad to see..

I hope there's still something more in there.. that fire in his belly to come back one last time when everyone has written him off to show he's a proud man and athlete against the odds defying logic and age.. and lead this team to getting Top 4 (which from this point would be a miracle in itself) and winning a trophy. And then he can retire on a happy note and not like it's currently heading..

Dear Sonya,
First of all, I have no hate for Ronaldo. He has been a fantastic football player and I think his career, goalscoring record, trophy room and legacy will make him stand out in football history for decades after he retires.
He's earned hundreds of millions playing football for a living and has lived every young footballers dream, so no matter how he retires, it's hard to feel sorry for him. Every footballers career ends eventually and Ronaldo has already been playing football on the top level way past when most retire from the top level. Can't see how he deserves to be undroppable or get a free pass from critisism when he and his team underperforms.
36 year old Ronaldo isn't half the footballer or goalscorer he was 7-8 years ago, and there is absolutely no shame in that. No one should expect a 36 year to take a major club with ambitions to the next level, he just isn't that good anymore, so it should not come as a surprise that he isn't. A 36 year old past his prime player should never have been our top paid and most used attacking player in the first place, it was bound to cause some disturbance no matter how good or adorable that player was.

It's obvious that we (Manchester United) have been struggling this season, and when I see a problem or a change in results and performances like this, I like digging deep into all the statistical material out there, analyse it thoroughly and try to find likely root causes for the negative changes in our results and performances. It is obviuosly not down to one single cause, where you can fix that one thing and all will be fixed. I think it is safe to claim that most of our outfield players have been subpar so far this season, and Ronaldo has been far from our worst performing player. I still think there is enough statistical evidence out there that points towards Ronaldo being one of or the biggest factors for the negative changes in our results and performances this season to at least investigate and try other options over a bit of time.

One thing is certain: You can't do the same thing you did yesterday and expect a different outcome. Things needs to be changed and Ronaldo cannot be holy grounds in that process.

 

[Name Changed]

Ronaldo is a fantastic player, a fantastic individual player. He will probably score 25 goals this season playing in practically every game.

I really believe he makes the team worse though. We have become even more predictable and one dimensional. We were far better last season when a fit Cavani was the focal point.

If Greenwood played every game in Ronaldo's position, how many do we reckon he'd score? Would he score 20? I'd still rather have Greenwood because his teamwork will be better and it gives far more options.

I love Ronaldo, but his time is coming to an end. He is becoming more of a hindrance on the pitch than an advantage.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Ronaldo is a fantastic player, a fantastic individual player. He will probably score 25 goals this season playing in practically every game.

I really believe he makes the team worse though. We have become even more predictable and one dimensional. We were far better last season when a fit Cavani was the focal point.

If Greenwood played every game in Ronaldo's position, how many do we reckon he'd score? Would he score 20? I'd still rather have Greenwood because his teamwork will be better and it gives far more options.

I love Ronaldo, but his time is coming to an end. He is becoming more of a hindrance on the pitch than an advantage.

I can acknowledge the arguments that says Ronaldo's presence in the team is problematic, I even agree with it to some extent, but one thing that is 100% not Ronaldo's fault is the issue of sloppiness on the ball and bad touches/passes/crosses etc.. that is something that cannot be attributed to Ronaldo's presence on the pitch, it happened a lot vs Wolves, and it happened a lot through out the season, and it must be addressed ASAP.

Even if Ronaldo is benched, if the team continues to be terrible on the ball, it will be the same, no control on the game, very little chances created, and opposition countering us once they dispossess our players.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Ronaldo is a fantastic player, a fantastic individual player.

Is he still though? I'm not sure people outside of Ronaldo fanboys will agree to that anymore.

He's losing the athleticism that made him great, his first touch has been very poor at times - and he's swinging and miskicking the ball more times than Bebe managed.

He can't hold the ball up very well, and keeps trying stupid first time flicks and tricks. If you didn't know him as Ronaldo, you wouldn't say he's a fantastic player on what we've seen so far.

The weird thing is on his debut against Newcastle he actually played quite well.

IMO playing him with a strike partner is actually making him worse. He was much better with Bruno in the team feeding him.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

Ronaldo is a serial winner. He came into a squad of mainly losers who have won very little in their careers. Of course these losers aren't going to like Ronaldo's demands to raise standards and expect more. These lot would rather hide, blame managers and take the easy life on the excess wages they are on.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Trevor Sinclair on Talksport , yes I know he is City through and through, thinks they dodged a bullet with Ronaldo. He said Ronaldo came to us because he did not want to play second fiddle to Pep. I mentioned elsewhere that City work well because no player is bigger than the manager, as it should be. Ronaldo worked well at United before, not just because he was younger, but we had SAF who did not let egos get out of hand, when they did they were gone. This club is run by people who are terrified of the players and are like star struck schoolboys in their presence. The tail is wagging the dog, that has to stop.

 

[VanDeBank]

Is he still though? I'm not sure people outside of Ronaldo fanboys will agree to that anymore.

He's losing the athleticism that made him great, his first touch has been very poor at times - and he's swinging and miskicking the ball more times than Bebe managed.

He can't hold the ball up very well, and keeps trying stupid first time flicks and tricks. If you didn't know him as Ronaldo, you wouldn't say he's a fantastic player on what we've seen so far.

The weird thing is on his debut against Newcastle he actually played quite well.

IMO playing him with a strike partner is actually making him worse. He was much better with Bruno in the team feeding him.

He still leaps like a salmon.

 

[Gordon Godot]

Trevor Sinclair on Talksport , yes I know he is City through and through, thinks they dodged a bullet with Ronaldo. He said Ronaldo came to us because he did not want to play second fiddle to Pep. I mentioned elsewhere that City work well because no player is bigger than the manager, as it should be. Ronaldo worked well at United before, not just because he was younger, but we had SAF who did not let egos get out of hand, when they did they were gone. This club is run by people who are terrified of the players and are like star struck schoolboys in their presence. The tail is wagging the dog, that has to stop.

He was never going to City, Utd just played by agents again. No way Pep would tolerate a static prima donna who thows their arms in the air every time their run is not picked out.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

He still leaps like a salmon.

Which is fine if we had lots of great crosses coming in. It does make us rather one dimensional.

 

[The Plump Poet]

Ronaldo is a serial winner. He came into a squad of mainly losers who have won very little in their careers. Of course these losers aren't going to like Ronaldo's demands to raise standards and expect more. These lot would rather hide, blame managers and take the easy life on the excess wages they are on.

What he's done in the past, and won in the past is completely irrelevant to the player he is here and now. People need to learn to separate the two.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

He was never going to City, Utd just played by agents again. No way Pep would tolerate a static prima donna who thows their arms in the air every time their run is not picked out.

Agree. Klopp wouldn't either. How many time do United act like they have hit the jackpot and it falls flat.