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You think you're clever? Passing options is a thing, look for it when you watch the next match. City players have several almost at all times, as is the way of Pep since his Barcelona days. We simply don't, and this isn't a problem for Ronaldo alone, it's for all our players. The problem is the team as a whole. We can get Messi and he will look clueless.

Ok, let’s keep things simple. Compare him with another Manchester United player. The one who’s been arguably most harmed by Ronaldo’s signing. Mason Greenwood. Almost twice as many key passes per game. 50% more dribbles.

Not to mention 0.7 tackles/game compared to Ronaldo’s pathetic 0.1. And a lack of defensive effort has always been Greenwood’s biggest flaw!

I do agree with you that Messi might have looked similarly clueless. Always a risk when you sign ageing has beens.
 
Ok, let’s keep things simple. Compare him with another Manchester United player. The one who’s been arguably most harmed by Ronaldo’s signing. Mason Greenwood. Almost twice as many key passes per game. 50% more dribbles.

Not to mention 0.7 tackles/game compared to Ronaldo’s pathetic 0.1. And a lack of defensive effort has always been Greenwood’s biggest flaw!
They don’t play the same position do they? I reckon Maguire has better passing stats than both of them. Mason hasn’t been great lately, Ronaldo either. I don’t care about stats, you can build a whole agenda with them and feel good about your own opinion if you want to, suit yourself.

The problem right now is team selection and basic tactics. I’m talking about being able to beat the bottom two teams with this squad, since challenging for the title would require a huge mental overhaul around the club. That’s why I hope Rangnick isn’t over-complicating things, as no interim manager should do.
 
I think Ronaldo arriving has really stifled Bruno,I know it sounds funny but that”s how i see it.Bruno thrived on being the main man taking free kicks,penalty”s etc.Now everything seems to evolve around Ronny.
 
Don't worry, he'll score the next game and will prove us all wrong.

He has saved us in UCL, thar's a fact, but as a team, we are worse with him. I miss the Bruno of last season and i think CR7 is the main problem.
 
He´s the most lethal striker in history, yeah i agree his sulking is annoying but come on, not even one good damn pass all night? You put him in front of goal..he scores. I would be pissed off too with the quality of passing
 
Bonkers that people think he's the problem.
I know. I worry where we would be without him, where would our goals come from? Greenwood is still learning his trade, Cavani has missed a lot of matches through injury/having to quarantine after international breaks, the goals have dried up for Fernandes, Rashford is having a poor season and Martial is pretty much finished at United.
 
How about a compilation of what happens when Ronaldo actually receives the ball ?

You could make the exact same compilation of Rashford and Greenwood making runs and not receiving the ball.
 

Trying too hard to get Ronaldo on the ball every time, we need to play football get all attackers involved and the goals will come this bullshit of Bruno playing a killer pass to Ronaldo every time and losing it needs to stop.
 
Trying too hard to get Ronaldo on the ball every time, we need to play football get all attackers involved and the goals will come this bullshit of Bruno playing a killer pass to Ronaldo every time and losing it needs to stop.
There's a reason every other attacker Ronaldo has played with has less output compared to when he leaves. (Benzema, Dybala and Rooney prime examples). It's all well sacrificing when he's 27 and the best player in the world, now it's just a liability. You can't base your whole team around a 37 year old. We won't finish top 4 if we persist with this.

It may work against teams that play a more open style (as in the UCL) but in the league where the majority of teams set up to shithouse there way to a draw it won't work and it hasn't so far.
 
Ronaldo will always show every now and then why he's in the goat conversation, but he's so far past his prime that are simply better strikers than him now. But all our other forwards are underperforming as well.
 
Bonkers that people think he's the problem.
100%. The majority are talking shite in here. People saying they don’t like his throwing arms up in the air…Ronaldo has ALWAYS done that, he just wants to win, and gets frustrated when the right pass isn’t executed which would give him a chance to score. He also worked his bollocks off yesterday, so the lack of pressing thing is rubbish too.
someone posted a list of how many times players were dispossessed yesterday, Ronaldo was near the bottom and yet gets as much stick as Bruno or Sancho. It’s not his job to be a playmaker.

I’m not saying he’s the player he was 5 years ago but he is far from our main problems.
 
I've come up with a solution to the Ronaldo conundrum.

If he's not playing well, take him off.

If he is playing well, keep him on.

Will DM Ralf.
 
Hes a striker now.

Our team doesnt find space to pass a ball to a striker. If we can find that, it will become good. But the support he got last night was horrible.
 
Greenwood has played less since Ronaldo‘s arrival and has hardly scored since or played well whereas before Ronaldo this season he was our best player.

Cavani even when fit has played second fiddle to Ronaldo.

Bruno - previously our creative inspiration mostly - has now made it his sole purpose to play for Ronaldo. And even that he is not really doing successfully.

SAF has somehow declared you always play your best players (whereas he himself did not always just play his best players and rotated regularly).

We are mostly playing with 10 men when he is on the pitch. And as our other attacking players are hardly work horses it mostly feels like we are playing with 9 men.
 
100%. The majority are talking shite in here. People saying they don’t like his throwing arms up in the air…Ronaldo has ALWAYS done that, he just wants to win, and gets frustrated when the right pass isn’t executed which would give him a chance to score. He also worked his bollocks off yesterday, so the lack of pressing thing is rubbish too.
someone posted a list of how many times players were dispossessed yesterday, Ronaldo was near the bottom and yet gets as much stick as Bruno or Sancho. It’s not his job to be a playmaker.

I’m not saying he’s the player he was 5 years ago but he is far from our main problems.

Frankly I rather think it's bonkers when I read people stating with absolute certainty that he's not the problem, or even a part of the problem. Not because I'm equally convinced of the opposite, but because basic common sense should dictate that when a team deteriorates and struggles the way we have, simultaneously with bringing in a high impact player like him, then that raises a reasonable question whether that impact has been for the good. Also, it is a relatively widespread view that he brought problems as well as benefits at his former club, and no disagreement that he is a player who requires his teammates to adapt to him. That in itself means it's always going to be a plus/minus tradeoff.

For my part, I was sceptical about the wisdom of bringing him into the mix when we signed him, I am not less sceptical today and I will probably remain sceptical for as long as our offensive game continues to look as out of sorts as it has for almost all of this season. If somebody had asked me back then exactly what sort of negative consequences I was fearing, the answer would have been approximately just what have been seeing: A loss of attacking cohesion and flow, worse performance from other key attackers, disruption of squad harmony and over-reliance and excessive focus on him. But I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that those fears were justified and correct - it is possible that there are other reasons. And I enjoy his wonderful goals and clever striker movement as much as anyone, plus he deserves a good deal of credit for stealing wins in clutch games we had no business winning.
 
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I've come up with a solution to the Ronaldo conundrum.

If he's not playing well, take him off.

If he is playing well, keep him on.

Will DM Ralf.

I'd agree, except I can think of at least two cases where I thought it was a nobrainer that he should be taken off, only to experience that he settled the game with a late goal. So I'm not really sure that logic holds.
 



Yeah. Basically, this. He tries hard all game to make himself available to create passing chances, but the same thing happens as it did in Juventus. For some reason, no one sees or makes the move to get the ball to him. I can't tell if it's lack of confidence to put a through ball, or if something else. In Madrid, they'd actually put some of those possible through balls to him, not all of them, but he'd be actively seeked when making a move. Mind you, I go against the flow on this one, but I don't think Madrid actually played for him, they played as a team and there were a lot of scorers throughout the season in the squad, and most of the 10 years he was there, there was usually another forward sitting at 20-30 goals by the end of the season alongside his 50 goals a season. But they knew how to play alongside each other *so well*, and knew when a Ronaldo move should be corresponded with service to him. United attack seems to be lacking creativity, seems to have a fear to put a bad pass in (except Bruno), and resort to sideways passing which doesn't move the attacking play forward, there's barely anyone moving in between lines or making runs except Ronaldo/Cavani, there's no flow, everyone is static. I think the biggest problem right now is psychological, team seems destroyed in confidence.

He didn't have a good game anyway, I'm not excusing that, but the problems in the team are deep.

The two chances Cavani got yesterday are actually what I want from United when it comes to servicing their forwards. At certain points throughout the game, you have movements they make that are worth waiting for and executing specifically towards them. There's a myriad of goals Ronaldo scored in Madrid where just like Cavani yesterday, at the last moment he'd drop back 2 meters from the defender's line, ditch them, and get serviced with an in-line pass or slightly angled backwards pass for a goal around the penalty spot area. There's dozens of goals he scored like that in Madrid, and Vasquez, Bale, Marcelo, Di maria, whoever, were good enough to know there's a good chance Ronaldo sets himself free, and that's when I should pass the ball to him, and it's worth watching him closely and waiting for the right moment.

So when Cavani made 2 similar moves yesterday and got serviced by Dalot, which waited, put his head up, saw the movement, and serviced Cavani, I thought, yes, we cannot play the entire game thinking only of the 2 strikers, but on these moments yeah, it's exactly what I wanted to see, a focus on their movement and ability to put a nice ball to them on said movements. Similar situation to when Rashford waited and waited for the Ronaldo movement in the box against Arsenal, and when Ronnis set himself free, Rashford immediately put a pass which resulted in a goal. If we have 2 strikers, and apparently they are pretty freaking good for a striker, and they make 50 movements all game, and we pass without looking, or don't even try to take advantage of those moves at least sometimes, it's a waste.

To end my thoughts, I liked seeing Cavani/Ronnie together once again. They seem to work wonderfully even in games where they don't link up. The 2 chances Cavani gets, one ends up in a goal, Ronaldo drags the 2 central defenders along with him, because that's just the fear he creates in opposition defences. Cavani then is free of marking. It's just with Cavani, he is a wonderful striker, and can just read the game as a striker in a way Rashie/Greenwood don't seem able to for now, and can see the defenders getting dragged along, and knows how to take advantage, and creates the right movement to receive a shooting opportunity from a teammate.

I'd like to see both of them start together next game. They can create space for each other in shooting positions in a way no other United pair of players can.
 
I've come up with a solution to the Ronaldo conundrum.

If he's not playing well, take him off.

If he is playing well, keep him on.

Will DM Ralf.

It's not that you need to DM Ralf -

You need to DM Ronaldo.
 
There's a reason every other attacker Ronaldo has played with has less output compared to when he leaves. (Benzema, Dybala and Rooney prime examples). It's all well sacrificing when he's 27 and the best player in the world, now it's just a liability. You can't base your whole team around a 37 year old. We won't finish top 4 if we persist with this.

It may work against teams that play a more open style (as in the UCL) but in the league where the majority of teams set up to shithouse there way to a draw it won't work and it hasn't so far.
I’m not opposed to Ronaldo getting the most goals in the team but the team itself need to get in and around the box and Ronaldo getting tap in’s. This craic of having Ronaldo 30 yards from goal by himself running onto balls over the top is crazy, he’s better off coming in late on the left wing and getting a tap in.
 
Here is my take: He is not our main problem/issue but I wish we hadn't bought him in the summer and had used that money for a CM or even an RB or something. Maybe we would've sacked Ole earlier and gotten Conte.
 
Don't worry, were on track to lose UCL. No need to let him go, he'll leave us.
Unless we make some serious activity in the transfer window, I’d say we definitely won’t make the 4th place. Spurs and Arsenal both look better than us. In the end, maybe it’s a good thing for both parties if he leaves. I certainly don’t think he’s the root cause of our issues, and he’s basically carried us to the CL knockouts. But if we aspire to be a well drilled pressing unit, maybe he doesn’t have a place next season.
 
Unless we make some serious activity in the transfer window, I’d say we definitely won’t make the 4th place. Spurs and Arsenal both look better than us. In the end, maybe it’s a good thing for both parties if he leaves. I certainly don’t think he’s the root cause of our issues, and he’s basically carried us to the CL knockouts. But if we aspire to be a well drilled pressing unit, maybe he doesn’t have a place next season.
Spurs will be good for the rest of the season. Need to see how Arsenal does vs City before saying they've fully turned the corner. West Ham are still hanging around. By the way, Norwich are down 3-0 at HT to Palace. We barely beat them in our "new manager bounce" period. That's how crap we are.
 
Reading through the last few pages and am so glad to see that most people have rightly identified Ronaldo as the problem. Finally people are judging Ronaldo on his current performances and not historical. He needs to go if he not able to accept a role on the bench.
 
I would happily let him move on in this upcoming window and begin the rebuild.

Only reason to keep him was if you think we have chance of winning the CL.
 
I would happily let him move on in this upcoming window and begin the rebuild.

Only reason to keep him was if you think we have chance of winning the CL.

Wow.
Personally, having Ronaldo here is the only thing that has made this season not feel like an absolute waste of time.

There's so many issues to sort out before Ronaldo. Centre mids who can't pass it, Maguire, Shaw and Wan Bissaka's form dropping off a cliff so badly that people miss Lindelof, and we have Telles and Dalot regularly starting (!).

Rashford looking miles off the pace, Sancho having given only glimpses of being one of the best youngsters in Europe.
Cavani can only play about 1 game in 8.

Sigh.
 
I would happily let him move on in this upcoming window and begin the rebuild.

Only reason to keep him was if you think we have chance of winning the CL.

Ronaldo will be pointless against any good team in the CL.
 
Wow.
Personally, having Ronaldo here is the only thing that has made this season not feel like an absolute waste of time.

There's so many issues to sort out before Ronaldo. Centre mids who can't pass it, Maguire, Shaw and Wan Bissaka's form dropping off a cliff so badly that people miss Lindelof, and we have Telles and Dalot regularly starting (!).

Rashford looking miles off the pace, Sancho having given only glimpses of being one of the best youngsters in Europe.
Cavani can only play about 1 game in 8.

Sigh.

Yes, there are a ton of issues to solve before we are challenging again, and Ronaldo won't be here to be a part of it. I would rather invest in Greenwood, Sancho, try to get Rashford back to somewhere close to where he was. May as well get a start on it as soon as possible.
 
I love him but I hope he leaves at the end of the season, he makes everyone around him a worse player, I genuinely see why Juventus fans were glad to see him go. Go and be a star in America or Qatar
 
I love him but I hope he leaves at the end of the season, he makes everyone around him a worse player, I genuinely see why Juventus fans were glad to see him go. Go and be a star in America or Qatar
I'd love to know -- how does he make everyone a worse player?
 
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