How the feck can they train if a large portion of the squad and staff members (I assume coaching staff) is isolating
Covid Outbreak at Man Utd
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How the feck can they train if a large portion of the squad and staff members (I assume coaching staff) is isolating
This. It's going to delay our transition to a pressing team even further, we need as many training sessions as possible and the team will be rusty as feck in the next couple of games. Very disappointing.How the feck can they train if a large portion of the squad and staff members (I assume coaching staff) is isolating
How the feck can they train if a large portion of the squad and staff members (I assume coaching staff) is isolating
What's the rules on that in the UK?
The rules for elite sports have given the clubs and the PL a lot of control over how they operate.
It's sounding as if initially at least most clubs are going to return to something like they did when football restarted. Players arrive in training kit. Do a LFT on arrival - if it's negative go and train outside. Minimal contact games and bubbled groups for some kinds of training. Similar at the end of session - they may even ask them to go home to get showered/changed if they don't have space to do better.
No canteen lunches etc and restrictions on tactical sessions that would normally be done in dressing rooms, or conference rooms. Hopefully one of the big training pitches/gyms can be set up to do that kind of thing, a choice between zoom and standing around in the Manchester weather doesn't sound great.
The problem with you guys is that us "antivaxxers" do not mind if you take yours. Please do, take hundreds of boosters, take them all. FREEDOM. But you do not allow us our freedom for not choosing the same thing as you. We'll see in the end who was right, if I'm the wrong one I'll be the first to admit that. Also while I do understand covid hits everybody differently it did not effect me, or my loved ones, including grandparents in their 90's (not vaccinated back then, 2020) one bit. In fact I only know of one person who was in ICU (but he's 200+ kg). Nobody I know has had any problems. Of course covid can cause problems but it's not as bad as you, or politics or media, make it to be. for 99% of people it passes with a couple days of sickness.
Good luck with everything. I respect your opinion. Please respect mine.
I read that they were supposed to be back in training today (don't know if that happened). Our request for postponing of game was on 2 accounts I think. We were not sure of additional positives outside the small group who came out positive and 2nd, we didn't get chance to train and prepare as a result. Now, if most of the group is still negative, those can be back in training.How the feck can they train if a large portion of the squad and staff members (I assume coaching staff) is isolating
Not getting vaccinated when you have no reason not to is being selfish. I don't respect your opinion one bit because you're wrong. But that's OK, you can just rely on the majority who are doing the right thing.
If you catch Covid, you cannot leave your house for 10 full days.
People who came in to contact with you in the 48 hours prior to the onset of your symptoms or your first positive Covid result, also have to remain in their houses for 10 full days (unless they are fully vaccinated).
I'm not sure if we still have unvaccinated players/staff at the club, but it's possible that we could be without a fairly large number of players/staff until at least Thursday 23 December.
Everyone else should be able to continue to train as normal, although you would expect the club to take extra precautions to minimise the risk of spread.
Great news guys future2future has discovered covid isn't that bad!
Go tell your deceased they can wake up now
Is there any confirmation as to how many of our players & coaching staff returned positive tests? Spurs confirmed they had about 7-8 & Brighton have confirmed only 3-4 but will still fulfil the fixture against Wolves tomorrow night and not fall for it to be postponed.
You can already see in the scientific evidence who is right and who is wrong.
What sort of evidence are you looking for? Some sort of evangelical sign?
@future2future 1% of the british population is about 700,000 people. just let those bodies pile up eh.
btw, if your gonna base it on anecdotal evidence, ive lost several members of my extended family to covid, including some in their 40s. so, on your reasoning, so I not be anti-vax?
btw, if your gonna base it on anecdotal evidence, ive lost several members of my extended family to covid, including some in their 40s. so, on your reasoning, so I not be anti-vax?
People like you seriously piss me off. If you are so sure you're all good, would you sign off a waiver you don't want treatment since it's not as bad as others are making it out to be?
Or are you just chatting shit and not willing to back up your verbal diarrhea with actions?
Utter nonsense.
With the vaccine you can still transmit, you can still get it. I have a 000.5% chance, with my age and BMI, to be admitted to a hospital. 17 times less than nothing is still nothing. Let the people at risk be vaccinated, then they are protected right? it does not depend on my not taking if your vaccine works or not. The average IFR of covid (in NL) is 0.15% (more in older ages, less in younger) this is not a lot. Give the people who are at risk or afraid the chance to protect themselves. But why do I need to take a vaccine, where no one knows long term effects for a sickness that isn't remotely dangerous for almost everyone under, let's say, 50.
In my age category, between 35 and 39, 35 people died in NL between February 2020 and December 7th 2021. Only form 70 the numbers start to rise significantly. Protect them who are at risk.
Tell that to the families of those 35 youngish people.
I've had covid. two weeks ago.
So do you aks the same question to people who have been smoking, drinking, driving, skiing, motorcycling, snowboarding, jumping out of planes their whole life?
This is the first time in history where people call for medical exclusion based on their choices while statically much more people die of poor choices (cardio vascular diseases due to diet, smoking, cancer, diabetes etc)
Why has this turned into a vaccine/anti vaccine argument?
Back to the actual thread, Any news on who's affected at United?
Back to the actual thread, Any news on who's affected at United?
Just a note friend that you are asking for people to respect your choices, whilst undermining the choice of others.
The main issue with COVID isn’t that it’s going to kill us all, it’s that the rate that it spreads could cause the hospitals to be overwhelmed. It doesn’t matter if the vast majority of people get mild symptoms. With this current variant, even if the vaccines protect most against severe illness, the issue is that it spreads so quickly, all those who would need hospital treatment will all be needing it at the same time.
For the sake of a 2 second needle in the arm, you’d be reducing that risk. The risk that you might happen to need hospital treatment and with the boosters the risk you will catch it and spread it. This “it’s mild anyway so I’ll take my chances” attitude is actually pretty selfish. That’s the issue here and why your opinion is nothing but moronic, and can’t be respected.
Ridiculous, baseless nonsense. Some of you are blinded by hatred and it's fecking pathetic.
Some proper cnuty posts from @future2future
Covid discussions are the worst.
Hopefully the club and the league will take care of it, appropriately, because that is the only thing I can hope for
Hopefully the club and the league will take care of it, appropriately, because that is the only thing I can hope for
Actually, you’re just completely wrong and talking total nonsense.
Here in America, there ARE penalties for people who smoke, e.g higher health insurance premiums and a few other tax penalties.
Also, to your point of “if your vaccines work, just give it to people at risk and leave me be as I have nothing to do with it” shows how stupid and ignorant you are. Do you understand how viruses mutate? If 10 out of 10 people were vaccinated to a version of the virus they protect well against, there is FAR less likely to be a mutation. If 6 out of 10 are vaccinated, there is a far greater chance the virus will mutate and turn into a version that escapes the previous vaccine (lile Omicron in SA).
And this isn’t the first virus to mutate, so like, maybe, read up on it?
I don’t respect your opinion one bit, since it is completely wrong.
Also, your freedom lasts till about it starts infringing on everyone else’s. Lets just make that clear. Idiot.
(PS, i’m a healthy 27 year old who got covid in Jan, super mild, but still have both my doses of Moderna and a booster, because i’m not a prick).
Am I right or wrong that even vaccinated people still spread the virus? If it guaranteed I didn't spread it I'd probably take it right now. I don't even know what the term antivaxer means. I havn't taken it myself but fully respect everyone who has taken the choice to do so. Does this make me an antivaxer? My closest friend took the pfizer one and got covid twice, he's constantly exposed to it due to working in healthcare. He told me he felt no difference in symptoms from the first time he caught it compared to the second one where he was vaccinated. Both were relatively mild.
It's now a 2 second needle in the arm times 3 and with the way they're talking on the news it'll be another, then another, then another.
What long term effects could this have being boosted every 5 months.
First it was get vaccinated immediately, proven to prevent hospitalisation. Then it was first vaccination does little to nothing and only the 2 would suffice.
Now it's, 2 vaccinations are no good to any man and his dog, 3 is the only ticket in town.
Exactly, I had a friend of a friend who had a cardiac arrest. She was airlifted to hospital but the first hospital couldn’t take her in. She died on the way to the next one. If all the anti-vaxers signed a declaration that they would not seek hospital treatment if they got sick from COVID, I’d be fine with them having their “freedom”.
Think it's probably time to lock this thread....
You're not wrong but it's effectively like saying "Am I right or wrong that people who wear seatbelts still die in car crashes?" as justification for not wearing one.
Vaccinated people can spread it but are less likely to, and the effects of it are less harmful. I believe anyway.
Yeah it's just fecked up times we are living in. Sad we are even having this discussion.
This isn't true. 2 vaccines are offering protection against hospitalisation. The issue is that it's mutated to spread amongst even the vaccinated so all the people who vaccinated and might still need hospital care (as any vaccine is never 100% protection) and all those unvaccinated, will need it at the same time. Getting the booster can protect against any symptoms, and therefore reduce the spread. Getting boosters is no different to the flu every year. Viruses mutate.
Exactly this. I probably didn't need the jab for myself. I'm a 45 year old PT and pretty fit and healthy but some of my clients are obese and others are elderly. I did the right thing because the latest research said it was the right thing to do for everyones sake. I don't want to be passing something on to someone who statistically has more chance of dying from it, that would make me a tool.
This screwed up the evening plan. Stupid virus.
Yep, just got to try and stay positive with it all - if you'll pardon the pun
I’m sure I’ve read that no vaccine has ever had long term side effects in the way you’re describing. Any side effects that do occur happen within the first few months.
Oh dear.
This thread is a train wreck.
I was going to post the same thing myself, I can't actually believe some of the things I'm reading, it's as if the Caf is being taken over by teenagers.
Feck me, I know. Came in to see updates about United and walked into vaccine debate. Take it to the general already.
…& yet it seems the tripe is coming from the more “mature” members of the caf
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