He's the type of clown probably posting memes on facebook about how it's all about control, and that it's no different to a cold.
Covid Outbreak at Man Utd
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He's the type of clown probably posting memes on facebook about how it's all about control, and that it's no different to a cold.
I really hope they make the antivaxxers pay for their COVID hospital stay, it is only fair since its just a cold.
Where did you study medicine?
Which we can all do by getting vaccinated. Unfortunately a significant % don't want to do that - because logic, right?
Give this a thought. Medicine is just a small part of Health and Healthcare.
Expecting lots of games to get cancelled now unless the League comes out with some new rules to govern cancellation of games. Probably why it went till midnight before it was decided because they desperately didn’t want the game off but United did.
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Is the game officially postponed
Yeah because the "mature" members of the Caf are wishing covid upon our players
True, the original hope the vaccines can prevent the virus spreading has already vanished. COVID virus hits the sweet spot between contagiousness and fatalities. It takes days to ramping up. If the amount of antibodies in blood is not high enough, eventually the immune system will ramp up the production of antibodies from the reservoir and memory learned through the previous immunization events. This is where the current vaccines still can help greatly even though the breakthrough has occurred assuming the broad spectrum nature of the learned immunity can still kill the new variants. It takes days but will greatly help certain vulnerable people fight for life. The boosters are the first thoughts to re-boost the density of the active antibody in blood to provide the first defense line.
A lot of people have no or mild symptoms, but it doesn’t mean you are one of that group. It’s solely due to your gene and the previous infection history in your life. Statistically, it’s a matter of small probability. However, to each individual, if you are part of that group, it’s 100%. It’s eventually everyone’s own choice.
All those things aren't transmitted, it's not remotely the same.
How about this, if you want to drive a car you need a licence. Don't get one then you don't drive. Is that against your freedom?
If you want to travel you need to buy a passport. Don't get one you can't travel. Is that against your freedom?
You need a master's degree to get a 100k a year job, but you can't be arsed, so you don't get that job. Is that against your freedom?
At the end of the day a lot of things aren't given to you unless you jump through a few hoops. Vaccines for covid is one of them
According to the Guardian it is. I doubt it will be the last either.
Not sure what your point is, either you are being pedantic as feck or you're an anti vax head case too?
Feck ityes
How would you be "proven" right out of interest?
I can see how you'd be proven wrong. In that these viruses bore on for years on end as there's not enough protection en masse from them.
But genuinely can't see how you'd be proven right?
Millions having some mass health problems?
The government coming out and admitting it was all a "control" grab?
Literally every single person I've ever met thinks my favourite film is the best film ever, the entire cinema stood and applauded at the end of it and gave it a standing ovation, I've never met a single person that dislikes it so I dont know what the critics are talking about.
I kind of wish that COVID wouldn't be a reason to postpone all these clubs -
I'd have liked to see a full bunch of younger players getting a chance to impress at all the clubs effected.
I'd have liked to see a full bunch of younger players getting a chance to impress at all the clubs effected.
The ultimate way in that he/she would be proven wrong would end up in them dying, which is kind of mental to say the least.
I was thinking that. The fact the reserves played last night shows it’s an option. If a club has an outbreak, play their kids. Hardly a fair solution to one or two postponements but there’s going to be loads the way things are going.
I hope not. The game against young boys was terrible. I'd rather have it postponed until we have most of the first team ready.
I'd like my freedoms to return back to normal but they can't right now because ignorant morons refuse to take a vaccine thereby prolonging this for everybody.
I've been "impressed" enough by our performance against YB. No thank you!
nice cherry picking points thereYeah because the "mature" members of the Caf are wishing covid upon our players
Your opinion isn't worthy of respect, it deserves to be mocked, ridiculed and pulled to pieces for the ridiculous uninformed half headed horse shit it is.
FFS.Nobody with any clue about what they are actually talking about believe mRNA vaccines can change a person's DNA. This is pure nonsense to suggest it does. This is embarrassing.
Can you cite your sources on the vaccines changing someone's DNA please
Are you antivax in general or just anti booster?
Oh doctor, didnt see you there.
I love people who give themselves a diagnosis or are saying the same stuff which were said in 2020 - ooh it affects only older people, we young ones are ok.
It isnt far from people who think that if they live healthy and do sports they probably wont get the virus. The more the virus spreads more people end up in hospitals and are in danger of dying. Both old and young people. Friend of mine didnt want to get the vaccine cause he claimed he has a lots of antibodies based on doing sports a lot (as if antibodies work like that) and he most probably wont get the virus and if he got it it wouldnt affect him. He got it and had few bad weeks after it, couldn't breath properly and got tired easily. And that's nothing compared to some other stories. The other friend vomited while he was sleeping and few times when he wanted to say something couldnt remember the word as if he's learning his own language again or he has Alzheimers. Virus messes up with the brain and nerves.
Also you're aware that by getting a vaccine you protect those who are at risk?
It is remotely dangerous for people under 50, I heard lots of really bad side effects and post corona syndroms which people have months after they had the virus.
Your freedom should be respected as long as it doesnt affect other people's freedom, health and ultimately life.
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I would say I pity some of those in this thread talking utter nonsense, but I find often the most ignorant are the most happy, just going along in a strange bubble of stupidity.
I can see why anti vaxxers get lost. The vaccination isnt vitamins and yeah maybe just maybe you are fkd if you get it. Problem is once you get into this mindset where do you stop. Do you trust the chemicals in your house? There is massive issues with building materials and the toxics affects they have. Do you trust your car? Do you trust your phone? Do you trust any medicines or hospitals or doctors? Do you trust your water or your food? And on and on.
Then at its core - what information do you trust? Twitter? Facebook? Youtube? A small handful of doctors that are anti vaccine? The government? The media? All dubious sources. So who are you left with.
This rabbit hole you go down leads to nowhere. Im not saying just do as you are told. The Nazis shouldn't have listened. But choose your battles. What are the odds that 99 percent of scientists, all governments, all media, all around the world are in one big conspiracy to change our DNA and make money and fk us up? Never say never. But whats the odds? On this one its probably ok to just take the vaccine. Even if you are low risk just do it for society even if you think they are wrong. Sometimes its just the path to peace.
What I am saying is that this cannot be ruled out. Actually, this is a field in biomedical science and engineering a lot of people engage to make it happen so that we can have a breakthrough treatment to many diseases. One of the recent publications is (preprint)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33330870/
The PI is this guy,
https://biology.mit.edu/profile/rudolf-jaenisch/
If you live on your own island, you do what you want. If you want to live in our society, you do what we want.
As much as this sucks for supporters, especially those who made travel plans and accommodations, an abundance of caution warrants the postponement.
I think the issue you ignore here is that people have different risk aversion level. Some are highly sensitive to risk even though their probabilities are tiny as almost surely zero. I respect that. It’s actually part of the factors contributing to the diversity of human-beings.
We have Covid threads in several places on the Caf. Let's keep this one for specific comments about the United Covid problems.
Except this isn't the first time in History that this has happened. Over 100 years ago you weren't allowed to board the Titanic or other ships travelling to America without proof of vaccination against small pox.
10 years ago I travelled to Asia but had to get shots first and have my passport stamped to prove I had gotten them. This is nothing new, its a measure to protect people's health which is long established.
Anyway hopefully everyone from the squad/staff make a quick recovery without spreading it to their loved ones. Definitely the right decision to cancel the game. Hopefully we can get back on the pitch soon.
I mean in terms of the patients I see, I’d say a lot of it is down to poor technique. People think they are doing it right until you watch them do it and they are definitely not reaching back far enough.
Not sure whether footballers do it themselves or whether someone who is actually trained/competent to do it.
And then there’s always a decrease in reliability with rapid testing - goes for most if not all medical tests. If there are two ways to test, one quick and one taking longer, chances are the latter will always be more reliable.
What's the chances of Brighton being called off? I'm travelling up from London and rushing around for Covid tests specifically for it.
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