Not saying it should go on but surely you can take SOME risk. How many evacuations have there been over the last 20 years?
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Not saying it should go on but surely you can take SOME risk. How many evacuations have there been over the last 20 years?
You're trying to debate with a guy who thought they could close the toilets on match days! And thought i was mad pointing out that's illegal.
Whatever it is, they must find a way of getting fans into the ground. Football was meant to be this exciting, entertaining sport and without fans it is simply boring.
Having watched a few Bundesliga games behind closed doors, it fails to grip attention.
I worry that if we have to play a year without fans, football will lose some fans.
There is no excitement to the game. Yesterday's game was such a big game but didn't feel like it.
I watched it with background noise on and it was the real experience, barely any difference with a stadium full of fans. It felt real, it was done really well, actually it was great. After 10' I forgot that it was BCD and was able to enjoy it like any other game. Great addition, because the games where you can hear the players talk to each other and where it's dead quiet are indeed hard to keep your attention on.
Maybe it is something for the TV companies to come up with something to grip the viewers? Definitely something they will be looking at.
It could be the difference from people watching games and not.
5-10,000 people allowed to go to a match but observing social distancing. They will be queuing for miles. Nightmare for the cops to have a line sneaking around god knows how many streets for hours.for a 3pm kickoff you’ll be queuing from 1pm. You most definitely will want the toilet then!Good, now imagine all them entering 1 small door.
Fans are not patient, can you imagine fans actually queueing up from 1pm ? I don't think so. This will put more pressure closer to KO when most of the fans are not in the stadium.
Getting people in is manageable however; when it comes to leaving the stadium, this can be a mess. I do not believe fans will have the patience required
I actually preferred the Dortmund Bayern game without the crowd noise. The intensity of the match seemed higher with the sound of players and coaches screaming. You could feel it meant a lot to them by the volume of chatting and instructions.
The issue with the crowd noise was that it didn't ebb and flow with the match and seemed like a constant drone of noise. The player noises though matched the situation.
It was better than without crowdnoise but definitely not even close to a stadium full of people in my opinion.
Contact training will resume. Will be interesting to see how its done in parallel to testing, what infection control measures are in place and whether it diagnoses more covid cases as a result and how players will respond to that if cases start to increase.
Any news when it might start again? Feels like it is soon getting too late.
What happens when players start testing covid-19 positive? Will the league still move ahead? Or will it be stopped? Is there any chance that it might be null and voided if players start/staff start testing positive?
I read June 20th somewhere, not sure where it was. Realistically it would indeed be the weekend of the 13th or 20th in June, I'd think.
A restart is not looking good. Since they started testing in the PL there have been 8 positive tests. This has happened in a very short period of time.
I suspect there will have to be a two week isolation period before they can even consider contact training let alone starting matches. Talk of getting crowds into stadiums at this point is just a distant dream.
I suspect there will have to be a two week isolation period before they can even consider contact training let alone starting matches. Talk of getting crowds into stadiums at this point is just a distant dream.
You mean it is looking good. 8 is such a smaller number.
first it was 6/ 780
then it was 2/980
Those are clearly good signs. That is less than 0.5% being positive.
"Squads are now able to train as a group and engage in tackling while minimising any unnecessary close contact."
like what? Marking at corners, shadowing runners off the ball, pressing a defence?
like what? Marking at corners, shadowing runners off the ball, pressing a defence?
I like your positive vibe but I suspect there will have to be at least a two week period after the very last positive test result. As far as I can see they are testing players and staff twice week. That's nearly 4000 tests a week that have to remain positive. I just feel that's a bit too much when the country is getting 2,000 new cases each day. I know these cases are from people showing symptoms but there are a lot of people that are either not getting tested or showing symptoms.
I think the answer will come from more testing but I don't know if they are simply testing to see if anybody has actually got the virus or if they have ever had the virus and have antibodies.
Doubt that - Germany had more positive cases in the period between May 1st and May 16th (the restart) yet the schedule went through as planned.
Isn't the 2 week period only for the player(s) who tested positive? It would not impact rest of the players or training.
I don't even know if there is two week isolation period. I just assumed there would have to some form of isolation period.
What if a player had full contact trained with team mates and tested positive after training with them? This doesn't necessarily mean he caught the virus from them but it means he caught it somewhere and then could have potentially given it to them during training. So in those circumstances it does impact other players, doesn't it?
I think it doesn't impact other players if they tested negative. Self-isolation is only for those tested postive.
I was alot more pessimistic 2 weeks earlier. We have seen the Bundesliga go on with positive tests a week prior and no one spoke about it.
Looks like the PL still has a couple more weeks before it restarts anyway.
I don;t think they have rolled out antibodies testing in the PL yet.
Only a few months without football and you act like you'll die without it. Will it kill you to wait for next season before even considering letting thousands of people gather at one cramped place where They'll be shouting and their droplets will fly all over the stadium? nobody in their right mind would want to wait till the virus is gone 100% because it's simply impossible, but let's wait and see and not make such a rushed decision. In my mind it's better to wait, even till next year, if that means the decision would have considered all the plausible options and opted for the best one. And not from "I'm bored" point of view, but to save lives and reduce the burden at hospitals.
What's the difference anyway, at least for supporters, you can still watch those matches at home. No fans in attendance would mean smaller chance of Virus spread caused by football. Less people = less risk. Football clubs can stream matches and charge money. Win win solution. If Premier League does resume, I'd prefer this option. I swear, all these 'tough', impatient fans wanting to go out to watch football because They're bored, not used to this, etc but I bet all it takes is one kid beside them coughing and sneezing and They will shit themselves. Imagine going home from the stadium and tell your wife "Honey, there was this kid who sneezed at me at the stadium, do you think I should take the rapid test now?"
Wife : "Get out and don't talk to me, feck you and your shitty sports you bellend"
Meanwhile in the real world contact training about to resume and nothing looks as bleak as presented in your post.
There is a 0% chance that the league will be null and voided. The league will either be finished behind closed doors or on some sort of points per game basis.
The League will come back either on the 12th or 19th of June behind closed doors. If players test positive for covid 19 they will have to self isolate.
No chance.
It's already been 'gifted' to Liverpool* by the FA, the Media and Liverpool* themselves, or else!
Thanks for letting sound the voice of reason, even though it falls on deaf ears more often then not.
After a slight decline it’s doubled. Frightening stuff. Do the right thing.
How will this play out with the track and trace starting from tomorrow if a player tests positive following contact training
Positive numbers
Yeah 4
Tbh last 2-3 weeks I've been finding this thread increasingly hysterical, the sheer lengths some of the anti restart brigade are reaching to try and find holes in any and every aspect of football returning is hilarious, from some strange Britains got talent comparison to trying to concuct a sexism storm.
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Some club will have 4 or 5 people in isolation at some stage.
Maybe not necessarily from the one test, but with isolation overlaps periods.
Maybe not necessarily from the one test, but with isolation overlaps periods.
We hate football sure
- What I meant was it is same country. I was wrong writing association but it is still same country. Even if it is run separately they are connected. PL can't do what they want, neither EFL. Without talking to eachother. Just look at all the talk about promotion / relegation.
- Consulted maybe. Then voted. That is not the same as that they all wanted to play.
- The main reason is only money. Nothing more, nothing less. Ofcourse money effects football. From top to bottom. Nobody has said anything else.
- If you want you can say that there is a gender issue. Women are treated differentley. Lot of Premier League teams have teams in Womens League. To say that there is no resources for women to continue but there is for men is funny. Yes, there is more money in mens football, we all know that.
- Yes, all those countries have started planing or playing. But you forget to mention those countries who have deicded to stop leagues.
It looks like Premier League football will resume at some point next month even if there are sporadic cases of COVID-19 in many clubs. However, organisers will be confronted by this big dilemma if there are several positive cases from one particular club and none from any other. I know it is vile thinking, but what if that team is a title contender, or a top-four contender, or a team battling to avoid relegation? Will that team be forced to play with such a great
handicap?
The German have astounded all those who were sceptical of an early restart of club-football, but the English machinery is certainly not as efficient as theirs. Will "the number of positives" have any bearing on the continuity of the games? Or is the strategy simply to resume the games with a lot of testing and isolation without addressing any "hypothetical" question?
handicap?
The German have astounded all those who were sceptical of an early restart of club-football, but the English machinery is certainly not as efficient as theirs. Will "the number of positives" have any bearing on the continuity of the games? Or is the strategy simply to resume the games with a lot of testing and isolation without addressing any "hypothetical" question?
Take into account that these tests are not 100% accurate, and even if all players are healthy, you would still expect a very few to come out positive. Please correct me if I´m wrong.
Well I think they'll just have to treat them as injuries. Clubs also have a responsibility to keep their players in check to ensure they do';t find themselves short of quality when the league resume. A lot of these players were breaking quarantine as we kept reading and now some are coming back infected. When the league resume, which is probably almost a month from now, I'm assuming by then they'll have isolated all the positive cases and all the participating players won't be infected(plus by then the current positive cases would have recovered).
From that point Clubs should start doing their part to endure and remind their players to follow new guidelines of safety to avoid risks of infections when they go home. Get their players to not go party and do things which would increase the likelihood of infection like we've seen during this quarantine with some players.
Tell it to those who tested positive.