You don't have pontificate to me about DUI's from across the pond. My point was about police brutality, which is a fact of life in the US. More so against people of color. They did not have to shoot him in the fecking back.
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You don't have pontificate to me about DUI's from across the pond. My point was about police brutality, which is a fact of life in the US. More so against people of color. They did not have to shoot him in the fecking back.
Fair enough had not taken that into consideration.
I agree its a bizarre anomaly, however, don't think posing the question is harmful.
Let's look at the facts:
You have a man who is sleeping in his car, and he is drunk. At this point, the man poses no threat to anybody - cars are driving around, he's not stopping anyone from getting their food. Then armed police go in and wake him up. They didn't find him driving drunk, they found him asleep in his car. Not a crime committed. They converse for 20-30 minutes, he's extremely courteous never swears at no point he raises his voice or pose a threat. He's cooperating, he's accommodating, he offers to walk home.
"Protect and Serve" that's the police motto. Not to write tickets, not to arrest people. Sir, why don't you get in the car, we'll drop you off at your sister, case closed. Everybody goes home.
Insulting another member
You may or may not be a bit slow so I'll just state my response to you was to highlight the irony of you accusing me of making something up, just after you yourself, made something up.
At this point in time I believe it's more than clear where I stand, I don't think we need to set the thread back a few pages...
"he got what he deserved"
"what happened was warranted"
"what did he expect to happen?"
"the guys an idiot"
Etc...
You know what I meant you just came at me with the semantics arguement... I didn't (and still don't) think it warranted much of a response.
In the video I saw you can hear the bystanders asking why he had to shoot, and saying how unnecessary it was...
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Nah. It's what he does. He gives ambiguous answers in order to save face when he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Wait, he was drunk sleeping and not drunk driving?
Good Lord from George Floyd to today we had an extra dozen cop brutality captured on video, amidst the biggest westernworldwide protest, it's as if the cops don't give a feck at all.
Good Lord from George Floyd to today we had an extra dozen cop brutality captured on video, amidst the biggest westernworldwide protest, it's as if the cops don't give a feck at all.
Remember: Keep it constructive.
There were 2 cops versus a drunk guy. A drunk person by definition is not rational. The sober cops should have used restraint. The onus of rationality should lie with the sober cops x2 not the drunk guy. Being drunk should not equate being dead.
*And I don't even drink, so don't take this condoning drinking.
You're a strange one, always trying to catch me out on something, like this an exercise in debating... Trying to make out I'm scheming. Don't seem to have a problem with that poster making something up though do you?
Oh so now you want to discuss? When it was about the topic in this thread, you just wanted to make offhand comments about me...
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Exactly.
That shooting was the picture perfect description of "Unjustified use of deadly force".
And some in here thinks the copper will sue for illegal termination.
Huh? It wasn’t the cops who didn’t show restraint (up until the shooting) or escalated anything. It’s Brooks who decided to resist a lawful arrest, fight, steal a weapon, runaway, and attempt to shoot the taser at the officer. It isn’t being drunk that he’s dead. It’s the rest of the above you conveniently left out, which led to the officer making an instinctive split-second decision to shoot/not shoot in a high-stress unpredictable situation. Cop made the wrong decision but he’s only reacting to Brooks’ multiple violent actions committed just seconds beforehand.
Well, I think we're on the same side of the pond if your location tag is right. And since your comments clearly indicate you don't understand what a DUI is or what the laws are, thought I'd be helpful. As for the cop shooting him in the back, I think everyone in this thread is in agreement that didn't need to happen nor did Brooks "deserve" to die.
This literally never, ever happens so I don't know why you keep bringing this up. The police aren't uber ffs.
It’s funny how these guys always seem to have had multiple reports about them beforehand, that no one saw fit to do anything about.
Unions and lawsuit
Also, the issue here, if reports are true, is homelessness. Locking up homeless people isn't the solution. Providing them with affordable housing is.
The man was driving while under the influence, passed out at a drive tru and staff were unable to wake him. He then resisted arrest, stole an officers taser and fired it at the police. But yeah, the coppers should have just tucked him up in bed somewhere; he seems like he was in a great frame of mind! A man who is likely already wary of possible discrimination is just going to hop into the coppers car and ride away with them...
You'll have certain posters desperate to conflate the actions before and after they attempt the arrest in order to push further blame onto policing where it simply isn't needed of warranted. He wasn't shot because he was arrested, much in the same way he wasn't shot because he was drinking and driving. He was shot because he resisted arrest, assaulted an officer and then the officer made the hideous and inexcusable decision to draw his gun and shoot.
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It's crazy because when I think about the stuff that I've done when pissed up. It's kinda unreasonable to put blame on him reacting unpredictably as the cause of death. But that's my opinion... It's played a part sure but the police officer takes the majority of the blame for me.
They aren't killers either are they? I know what option sounds best even if it does leave an officer feeling like an Uber. I'm not even saying the cops should drop him home, it's just not as ridiculous a suggestion as some of you make it sound. Bearing in mind we are now talking about a death, a charge, and all of the fallout that entails...
What's the difference of posting this and posting that a victim of a police shooting has a long rap sheet to make them look bad?
One of them is a murderer who shouldn't have access to firearms, let alone be a cop.
We expect that police forces have controls and oversight in place to keep problem officers away from public interaction?
Is this a serious question?
One is a police officer? That probably should not have a gun on the street with that type of record...
“Reacting unpredictably” is really downplaying it. He wasn’t even passively resisting. His actions were downright aggressive and dangerous. He already showed by assaulting the officers and using a weapon against them that he would do anything to escape custody. I hate to think what he would’ve done if he took the officer’s gun. I don’t know how you are when you’re piss drunk, but do you honestly see yourself capable doing the things Brooks did? Unpredictable is one thing, but this is way more than that IMO. Ultimately he pulled that trigger so if you think he takes the majority of blame then fair enough, although i disagree.
Well an assumption is being made about the cop's record here
Not to mention that his question compared a cop killing someone to the victim of police brutality.
“What’s the difference between highlighting a shit cop who murdered someone has a history of brutality and pointing at irrelevant history of a murder victim?”
I mean for feck sake.
A few bad apples
Call me crazy but I think police should be held to a certain standard.
I hear you, but I recall starting a fight with a bouncer twice my size, and driving a moped of a cliff into the sea... You can do things you'd never normally do when you're drunk is all I'm saying. I'm not trying to downplay anything.... and as I said earlier, in the video I watched the bystanders seem to think that the cop overreacted. We are just here judging from video...
I know it's the Mail but it doesn't seem like an assumption. Here is the original piece:
https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law...imanded-for-use-force/dOTu99Lym4SjkmXmkt0P8M/
Seems that the Atlanta Police released the disciplinary record information so your assertion that this is an assumption is bogus. Controls and oversight that are supposed to keep citizens safe clearly failed here.
Bang bang, don't disrespect me is how it went. Multiple violent actions committed my arse. What have you got to say on the individual police officer? Bit of a fecking cnut wasn't he. Your brotherhood is full to the brim with people like that and you guys do fecking nothing.
They screwed up by not turning off the body cam. When it's five cops' testimony vs only one of yours, it's easy to guess who the judges would believe. It's sad that it took nationwide protests for things like this to come to light, and makes you wonder how many more cases are unheard and forgotten. And then there are the people that sweep these incidents under the rug, and regard them as collateral damage, because those cops probably beat up and catch the right guys most of the time.
fecking hell.
Fecking hell, any serious injuries?
Wow you’re reckless!
No luckily, huge bill though as it was a rental.
Well it was 20 odd years ago, would not recommend itWow you’re reckless!
There’s a small possibility that any of the “founded” disciplinary actions against him resulted in getting placed on probation. And that he can be terminated for any reason thereafter as a condition. Like it was mentioned a couple pages back getting complaints is normal, but for a 6-year veteran that’s quite a lot of complaints.
nonetheless if he isn’t on probation then the termination was premature and he can sue.