This is precisely my biggest gripe with these stories, and why there's not enough crackdown on the exaggerated police reports. It just seems like a script to write "resisting arrest" "fearing for my life" after almost every altercation.
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This is precisely my biggest gripe with these stories, and why there's not enough crackdown on the exaggerated police reports. It just seems like a script to write "resisting arrest" "fearing for my life" after almost every altercation.
It's only going to get worse
Which is dangerous for multiple reasons. The biggest one obviously being the blatant lies to try and cover their tracks against their actions against innocent people.
But also because it sets this negative image that almost sets up a "boy who cried wolf" story in people's head when officers deal with actual people actively resisting arrest.
But also because it sets this negative image that almost sets up a "boy who cried wolf" story in people's head when officers deal with actual people actively resisting arrest.
I wish I didn't agree.
Same old story, over and over again.
this. I wouldn't trust the cops to tell the truth unless their life depended on it. Maybe that's how they see control over the populace, but to me it's just OTT policing.
No doubt their job can be tough at times, dealing with drunks, druggies, and just shitty people in general - but they have to be better about discerning the difference between the bad guys and everyone else.
Just shows how perceptions are ingrained in some people, even if it's not intentional. Black man with a hoodie working on a car is a suspicious activity?
This video plays the woman's 911 call.
Edit: It gets worse. One officer tells him he's lucky he did not shoot him.
Edit: It gets worse. One officer tells him he's lucky he did not shoot him.
Some police officers are really stupid, they have a dashcam in their cars and they still do stupid things.
Why did he get out of the car?
That's what I couldn't figure out. Why get out of the car? Never get out of the car, it's just so incredibly stupid. The police are going to interpret it as a sign of aggression.
so now its his fault? 
The first thing a cop will ask you is to step out of the car, so he can see you all the time for his own security.
that's what he did... with both hands on the air.
The first thing a cop will ask you is to step out of the car, so he can see you all the time for his own security.
that's what he did... with both hands on the air.
so now its his fault?
The first thing a cop will ask you is to step out of the car, so he can see you all the time for his own security.
that's what he did... with both hands on the air.
Regarding the bolded, I've never asked anyone to step out unless I'm investigating a DUI driver.
If someone steps out on a traffic stop, I'm directing them to get back in the car straight away.
In the past 2 years, the Justice Department has released scathing reports on misconduct and a pattern of discrimination in the police departments of Cleveland, Baltimore, Chicago and Ferguson (suburb of St. Louis). Common through each report is a tendency for the justice system in which police officers, prosecutors, judges, parole officers and community boards to discriminate against minorities, even though it is very possible that individuals in these systems may have the best of intentions.
even if it's an identified suspect of robbery, who could be potentially armed? interesting...
If it it's a felony stop, sure. Your comment seemed to paint a broad stroke against every possible contact in a vehicle, in which the overwhelming majority will never be told to get out of their vehicle.
No, I'm talking about the video in question.
Getting out of the car with something in your hand is 'What not to do in America 101' in regards to traffic stops.
for sure. He was clearly lucky not to be shot. He probably had his phone (to record just in case) or his documents...
probably if it were only one copper (scared to death) he would have shot right away, but because they were like 10 feckers they were feeling safe and went for the beat down instead.
Well it still stands. You'd direct them out in a set of clear steps and instructions, not just tell them to hop out and come on back for a chat.
Well yeah, he did rushed out of his car.
Still unwarranted police brutality though.
Imagine a confused white senior citizen do the same (step out of the car)... i doubt he would receive a beat down.
And if this wasn't a student at a prestigious university it wouldn't receive the same amount of outrage. There are double standards through and through.
Doesn't change the fact a cop in Chicago is well advised to take zero chances. That city has problems...
You must be from U.K. Because here everybody knows don't leave the car until the officer tells you to do so and if he does tell that person to step out then means he suspects that person has a few too many drinks or has drugs in the car. I had a friend who was the police chief of my town and he told me they rarely made mistakes (well with the Portuguese was easy after 10pm they already had too many
)But chances with what. The only way he could be less threatening was if he was dead.
It wasn't a cop, it was a gang of them.
What a cnut. Goes on like a hard man yet pulls a gun on a few kids, should this cop not be up on some serious charges. If I was a parent of one of these kids that coward would have made an enemy for life and I don't give up. Cowardly fecking cnut.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...29?b1n19gal7u1bgldi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...29?b1n19gal7u1bgldi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Had he identified himself as a cop at some point in the event prior to firing the shot?
I don't know, even if he did it seems it was all over some kids walking through his yard. A few minutes in he said the kid threatened to shoot him and you can hear the other kids immediately say that he did not say that. When he said that it sounded like the infamous "he's going for my gun" excuse. Even if there was a threat he should of called the police to deal with it as at that moment he is a private citizen, not on duty. Notice where he pulls the gun from and the shot goes out a few second later. It's a shame he didn't blow off that obvious little pecker in his trousers.
In the video you can hear the kid explaining that what he actually said was "I can assure you", which the cop misheard as "I can shoot you". I'm sure the kids were being dicks but that's a masterclass in how not to deescalate a potentially violent situation. Which is amazing when you think that he's doing a job in which he's supposed to have specific training in how to do the opposite of what he does in the video. Seems to be a recurring theme with American cops. I think this is mainly because the country is so fecking swamped with guns they're all constantly terrified about being shot, so get massive adrenaline dumps at the first hint of confrontation and stop thinking rationally.
Let's be fair, he probably didn't understand what assure meant and was going to shoot the kid for making him look stupid.
It's madness and totally the opposite of how a community police force should function in society. This old chicken cnut has a lot to do with it.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization
The way he had his gun in his pants and nonchalantly pulls it out to threaten those kids is fecked. He definately felt disrespected though, you could see that. I got a slap from plenty of cops at that age for stupid things but pulling out a gun is so fecked up.
Probably did not help the situation when the kids tried to tackle the cop and one threw a punch at him. Which is why I was wondering if he had identified himself as a cop. The cop failed at deescalating the situation, if he grabbed the kid over the kid walking on his lawn then there never should have been a situation to begin with, so the cop was wrong to create one. He should have just called on duty cops to take care of it. He should have been telling the kids over and over that he was a cop, and to back up and let him do his job (even if he was doing it wrong). The whole thing never should have even gotten to a point where the one or two other kids were attacking the cop and that falls mostly with the cop though if he had properly ID'd himself as a cop then the other kids share some of the blame. You fecking don't throw punches at a cop no matter what country you live in.
The cops in the US are also in large numbers, massive dickheads. Their response seems to be come in shouting and when that does not work shout louder and make things worse. For many they think that they have to command respect by trying to bully people, instead of commanding respect by doing their job properly. Yes in many situations the people they deal with are going to have zero respect for them no matter what they do, pull someone over for speeding, they are still going to blame the cop even if they were doing 120 in 60 zone (actual situation a coworker had and all she did was complain about the cop stopping her and giving her a ticket, even though she admitted to be going well over 100mph with her kids in the car).
just to offer some light comedy relief -
watch this sovereign citizen retard get owned
watch this sovereign citizen retard get owned
What the hell? I'd never even heard of sovereign citizens before. Then ended up down this rabbit hole:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1188499537930602&id=454739867973243
Usually I'd pride myself on the professionalism and restraint of the Irish police but - just this once- I kind of wish they'd put a cap in his ass...
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1188499537930602&id=454739867973243
Usually I'd pride myself on the professionalism and restraint of the Irish police but - just this once- I kind of wish they'd put a cap in his ass...
Serious - Sovereign Citizen are unique in that, whereas most of these anti-govt nutjob groups are exclusively white, the Sovereign Citizens also have significant black membership.
There are hundreds of videos of them being absolute dicks.
There are hundreds of videos of them being absolute dicks.
Sovereign citizens have been a recent hot topic in law enforcement for the past several years. Took a couple training classes on it and seen that video. There's a video of 2 Memphis police officers getting killed by a father and son duo that I've seen at least a dozen times, highlighting how dangerous they can be. But for the majority of the time, seems they're just annoying nutjobs looking to push people's buttons and make things difficult when contacted by police.
I've never encountered one myself, but a few colleagues have. Thing is, they're usually very well drilled in their doctrine and sound very knowledgeable and intelligent, more so than your average joe cop.
I've never encountered one myself, but a few colleagues have. Thing is, they're usually very well drilled in their doctrine and sound very knowledgeable and intelligent, more so than your average joe cop.
As to the anaheim incident, the cop (or Joe citizen at that point) was being stupid the whole way through. There were a dozen other things he could've done instead and he chose the wrong one. It looks on the video like an AD or ND (accidental discharge or negligent discharge) for which his department will most likely not back him and could throw him under the bus esp. in today's political climate, leading to suspension or even termination.
God knows why he even lives in AnaCrime as a white police officer. If he wasn't already a target by the gangs and scumbags before, he will be now. If he lives with family he better start on his housing search
God knows why he even lives in AnaCrime as a white police officer. If he wasn't already a target by the gangs and scumbags before, he will be now. If he lives with family he better start on his housing search