I've seen that argument used on other players and it turns out that in reality their form never returns to what it was.
I've said on here for years, players are more important than any manager. People still think our next manager will turn it all round singlehandedly.
Anybody who believes otherwise is naive , a competent manager with great players is better combination than great manager with good players more often than not .
I do see the flaws. One of it was that he couldn't find the extra push to get Spurs over the finishing line to win the league, champion league or domestic cup. Even though spurs were never entitled to that and it will be one of the greatest accomplishments in football if he won champion league with spurs, he could have maybe altered his gameplan and set up more defensively to get it done.
Can you see the flaws in Poch? Genuine question.
They had the right manager to rebuild their squad, but sacked him.
I'm hearing the same excuses Ole got where he had to outspend the opposition in order to beat them
Well maybe it's starting to dawn on people now that these managers aren't all they are made out to be.
Easily.
Exactly. But if he is given half the time and backing Olé was given at United it would have been another story. Thankfully i don't expect Spurs to be that ambitious.
Yea, I honestly taught spurs will be the one that will get the fourth spots, but now it looks like Arsenal or even United will be the team. Unless, things change fast, I don't see that happening anymore. That definitely shocked me how poorly Conte is doing at the moment.
It's a case of whoever is the least shit rather than the best.
They are still likely to get top 4 but it seems a case of other teams like us not being very good.
Yet still Spurs are not 14th...14th I tell ya, which is where they were when Poch left (or got sacked)
Yet still Spurs are not 14th...14th I tell ya, which is where they were when Poch left (or got sacked)
Poch was never close to winning the league, to say so is disingenuous but I expect nothing less from you to be fair!!
he is right, isn't he, you don't understand.
Ronaldo is almost a full decade older than Kane tbf. Don't think it should immediately point to age if a player is under 30 it's just silly. I mean there are some players just age faster, like Rooney, though I do reckon those hormone pills he had could have been reason for that (i started a joke thread about it but turned out to be pretty on the money
)Rumours the magic wand is broken but its in the shop being fixed.
Yeah Conte won't stick around with a team that he feels like can't win things
What on earth are you on about??
started well and now hit a wall in that the players are mediocre. praise the manager when things are good, but criticize the players when things are bad. We are just going in circle now because I have stated the original argument was not soley towards poch last tenure as it is not a good basis to judge due to being the end of his cycle. Yea, if you look at champ post history, you can tell how much he hates him. He is not the only one. I have been an admirer since his time at Southampton.
He did start well, and yes the playing staff are mediocre, again both truths.
Yea, if you look at champ post history, you can tell how much he hates him. He is not the only one. I have been an admirer since his time at Southampton.
Practically but ageing. Fergie also lost a title to Mancini because City had a better squad. Fergie was powerless when Chelsea and Arsenal dominated the mid 2000s with better players. Pellegrini won it with City but did nothing at West Ham. There will always be rare exceptions.
Ronaldo is almost a full decade older than Kane tbf. Don't think it should immediately point to age if a player is under 30 it's just silly. I mean there are some players just age faster, like Rooney, though I do reckon those hormone pills he had could have been reason for that (i started a joke thread about it but turned out to be pretty on the money
