I never said anything else, was just trying to follow the logic of your posts. Or lack thereof.
Conte | Spurs Manager
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4 losses in last 7
Ralf would get strung up
Ralf would get strung up
What you'll probably get is Conte leaving, Poch returning and Levy deciding that's good enough.
United haven’t had to play Chelsea three times.
You said that Spurs aren't struggling right now, but obviously they are compared to when Pochettino was in charge before his last season. They just loaned out few or their players the bought recently, 40% possession at home to Southampton and as noted 4 loss in 7 is poor.I never said anything else, was just trying to follow the logic of your posts. Or lack thereof.
We actually have a great record v Chelsea! Saying that Chelsea’s only good run of form is against Spurs over the last few months…
If you turn it around and win the league next season i will hold my hand up and say i was wrong, but the signs arent good. 40 percent possession at home against Southamton is not good enough for spurs.
We did for a while. Last three have been draws and we haven’t won any of the last four. Though this thread is for laughing at Conte so I’ll stick to that.
Big time. Glad the love in has wound down for a few days.
So another loss from the manager that would be much better option than Ralf who knows nothing.
I do like RR and he may yet have some success. But it’s idiotic to compare him to Conte a four time Serie A winner and Premier League winner.
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Come on now, of course it's not direct comparison, it's about going after the moaners who judge managers so early.
Yet people here seem to think that the United management doesn't know their arse from their elbows -- and were all up in arms when they skipped on Conte and decided on Ralf.
We’ve lost about one in 10 or something stupid and constantly get a result at SB these days. I’d say that’s a good record! We definitely wouldn’t roll over for them as Spurs did
But they are not struggling in comparison to where Poch left them in his last bit part season...was it 14th place if I remember correctly??
Conte needs to work with what he has on hand. Spurs needs an overhaul, just like Arsenal is doing at the moment. Conte knows it is a difficult rebuilding job with limited resource. It is up to Levy in the end.
RR may be a good DOF( i have no idea to be honest), but he has prove nothing in his coaching career to be better than Conte.
He's playing a 343 at the moment, with 5 actual defenders and Hojberg. How much more does he need to tighten up?
a chelsea team out of form with strikers in worse shape than ours basically pissed on spurs & their genius boss 3 times
It wasn’t even close
We got a result there at least & wont fear them at home
That doesn’t actually tighten up your defence. It leaves gaps between the CB and WB so the midfield is stretched across.
That formation is great for outnumbering the midfield and freeing the WBs but if you don’t have the players for it then you become static when not in possession. You end up with a back 6 and no foothold in midfield
we need a midfielder who can actually hold the ball and dictate the pace of the game.
Is the players he is using currently not used to playing that formation though? Where do you think the weaknesses are?
Without knowing that much about him, do you see Bentancur being that man?
The width is their problem imo. Their entire focus is to get subpar wingbacks into space who need Son etc wide for help anyway. Their entire middle core is stretched because of it
Our result there had nothing to do with Ralf Rangnick though. We may not fear them at home but then, did we fear Wolves at home?
From his short cameo and reading about the guy it seems so, il be honest I don’t watch much Italian football.
I thought Reguilon was seen as a good attacking wing back, I know he was getting spoken well of last season, has the view of him changed?
I remember looking into Emerson Royal when Arsenal were linked with him, and generally the view from Spain seemed to be he was a decent defensive full back but not great going forward, which I agree is an issue in the wing back role. For the full back in a back 4 I'm glad we ended up with Tomiyasu.
Regulion is decent going forward but he is average defensively so gets caught in two minds. Maybe Conte can coach it into him but he’s either too deep or too far forward and the shape becomes disjointed imo.
Then you have a flat 6 so the angles to pass out from the press decreases which means they struggle there as well.
I really think a WB needs to be able to swing a great cross in rather than get to the byline
It's beyond tedious at this point. What sane person could be bothered writing the same point over and over again, day in, day out?Will never understand why Spurs went with Conte instead of some one like Ralph. They're last good manager was at Soton. They last good DoF was at Soton.
If something isn't broken, don't try to fix it.
Too many words for saying that Poch is awesome and elite manager. Just lay of it man, it's getting too obvious
Yeah, I've just answered my own question.
He's doing well considering their godawful squad. People still think this is the same Spurs who finished 2nd under Poch. The reality is Spurs have been shit ever since Poch last year and it must have been for a reason.
They need to rebuild.
They need to rebuild.
wolves was our only real loss under Ralf
Our interim manager who most of us agree isn’t exactly gonna be taking us into the future
Conte has lost 4 already this year I’m just pointing out that he would have problems at United too
I never wanted him here though
Sounds familiar.
It is very familiar because this has been the case for the last 2 years.
Familiar in that United fans feel similarly about our own side. Except we've been saying that for a lot longer then 2 years
Too early to judge him. Let him have a full pre-season and I'd imagine he'll get a tune out of that Spurs squad with a few additions. If he can somehow manage top four this season, then he's done an excellent job. Let's be honest, no-one is taking a command of the top four position.
It's between Spurs/United for me. I don't think United are too far of turning into a good enough side, there is signs of improvement from RR in key areas but also just sort hitting in a brick wall in others which if they overcame they'll be winning these games. A lot of poor finishing and poor defending in moments has cost them. It's a lot of 'ifs'' but you'd expect Ronaldo/Fernandes/Rashford to be finishing the chances they have been missing recently.
It's between Spurs/United for me. I don't think United are too far of turning into a good enough side, there is signs of improvement from RR in key areas but also just sort hitting in a brick wall in others which if they overcame they'll be winning these games. A lot of poor finishing and poor defending in moments has cost them. It's a lot of 'ifs'' but you'd expect Ronaldo/Fernandes/Rashford to be finishing the chances they have been missing recently.
Pretty much. The problem is that Levy won't commit to a real rebuild because he desperately wants back into the CL, even for a single year, given the finances surrounding the new stadium. So they're trying to have it both ways, hiring a manager on an 18 month contract, who has stayed two years or less in 7 of his 8 jobs in management, to oversee a rebuild. And they're rebuilding around two star players who will turn 29 and 30 in the summer and realistically have maybe 1-2 years left as truly top players.
Familiar in that United fans feel similarly about our own side. Except we've been saying that for a lot longer then 2 years
Fair enough. This summer is going to be incredibly important for us - basically make or break not only for Conte but probably for the club's hopes of retaining any chance of being a Champions League club for the next 5 years. barely any context in that post and if you looked at the table then, they were only a few points away from top four. Moreover, There is a big difference between comparing a manager toward the end of his cycle to a manager that is beginning his own. Regardless, that wasn’t even the point that was made at the time. Not even sure why I bothered responding to this post.Not sure why you bothered making the original post to be perfectly honest, you were trying to compare the current Spurs situation with that of Pochettinos reign bar his last and very poor season.
Selective memory, as Spurs were in an awful position when he left, they are in a much better position under Conte right now.
That's the context, however you may not like it. I think they were 9 points off top four
Re read the original context of the post which didn't begin in this thread to get a better idea. That is why I made the original post and if you knew the original context, you will have a better idea. The comparison was never toward the last tenure where most players mind was not in it. You try coming into a debate that you had no idea what is about, which is weird thing to do. People who did have an idea already agreed with my assumption in the original thread.Not sure why you bothered making the original post to be perfectly honest, you were trying to compare the current Spurs situation with that of Pochettinos reign bar his last and very poor season.
Selective memory, as Spurs were in an awful position when he left, they are in a much better position under Conte right now.
That's the context, however you may not like it. I think they were 9 points off top four
Sorry, I'll just reuse a retort that's been posted to you previously as I think it sums it up perfectly:
'I never said anything else, was just trying to follow the logic of your posts. Or lack thereof.'