Tuchel has been successful everywhere he’s been though, it’s disingenuous to reduce his record as a manager to a CL win. Conte has done really well in Italy, and won a Premier League and an FA cup whilst taking Chelsea from 1st to 5th, I think he’s a very good manager but I don’t see him as being as good as the top 3 in the league.
Conte | Spurs Manager
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He was poached after we could get him!
If you do not want to see the intangibles he adds to a club, a team and any player working under him, then yes… any fool getting lucky with variance (not Tuchel in particular, here, who is a fantastic coach we still need to know better for his very personal style) in the most lotto-style competition in football is better than him.
Have to admit, very smart move by Levy ….sacking Nuno and pushing through Conte signing at lightning speed, while Utd were still scratching their arse wondering what to do.
I’ve literally just said he’s a very good manager, but the three I’m saying are better than him have achieved far more than just getting lucky in a CL run, people on this forum can’t help but jump to the extreme at times. Klopp, Pep and Tuchel, are for me, better managers than Conte.
Spurs are likely to improve their performances under Conte and having signed a player or two in Janury. One more rival for out 4th position. Ole will have one more strong opponent to care about.
He wasn’t ‘poached’.
He went to Spurs after the Glazers rejected him for Ole Solskjaer.
We rejected him? Link me up, i'd like to read the article.
Conte’s team made it clear he wanted Utd - he’s wanted the Utd job for a while.
The comical Utd board chose instead to keep their yes man in place after the most humiliating home defeat in decades.
They rejected Conte.
No article then. No late breakfast reading.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....as-players-doubt-solskjaer-capability-tactics
There’s loads saying that he wants/wanted the United job. I suppose they didn’t literally reject him, but by not sacking Ole during that week before Tottenham they effectively did turn down his services.
If you google Conte United job there’s lots of articles.
I wouldn't be surprised if Conte had already agreed to come when Nuno got the sack - the loss to us was just the pretext.
I'm looking forward to Everton beating Tottenham in the next Premier League outing.
Laurie Whitwell from the Athletic said as much. He links the article here.
You might be dissapointed
This is exactly why I was surprised Spurs went for him. He will be like a bomb going off in the backroom if players are not towing the line and will want them gone. He will make demands of the board and rattle the cage, he is everything I thought a club like Spurs, and more particularly Levy, would not want. Thought Spurs got exactly what they wanted with Nuno, a yes man that wouldn't ruffle feathers, not make demands and not really question player power too much.
Spurs always wanted Conte. Not because of his standards but for his profile. Levy has this notion that if top managers join Spurs then by default they become a top club. That was the thinking behind hiring Mourinho when everyone though that he was finished in England.
They chased him in the summer and Conte resisted. He didn't want to compromise so early in the window where there could be other opportunities. Halfway through the season though, the situation is very different. Conte wants to manage, wants to be in the dugout, wants to "smell the grass" as he himself has said. Also he has a relationship with Paratici from his Juventus days. They must have made him some promises and he must have met them half-way realizing fully well that a vacancy at one of top clubs isn't imminent. It is a marriage of convenience.
Terrific appointment on the proviso Daniel Levy makes funds available for Conte to strengthen a team that needs strengthening.
Feel sorry for the guy. Should be Utd manager right now.
In a video on Spurs' YouTube channel, Conte said he wants ''attractive football with lots of passion''.
Its a bit of a myth that his football is ugly, its defensive but his teams score goals, and he certainly has passion.
I think it is more of a myth that it is defensive, rather than ugly.
His ethos is all about intensity, compactness and directness.
And that's not necessarily defensive - if he's given the right personnel for that, he likes to keep a high line and commit lots of men forward.
On the other hand, when his ideal striker is Lukaku and he's taken a full year to figure out what to do of Eriksen, it's clear that for him flair and virtuosity take the backseat to brutish physicality.
This summarizes the situation well. I would also add that Levy likely has several other reasons to be very short term in his thinking right now, almost to the point of desperation. First, the club went into a lot of debt for the stadium (even if financed at reasonable long term rates) while also signing a variety of new commercial deals that likely have adjusted payments based on whether or not the club is in the CL. Its not an ownership group interested in taking losses and an extended run of years outside the CL probably doesn't work for their financial model. Second, Levy himself has a ton of personal stake in players like N'Dombele, Lo Celso, Sanchez somehow working out. To embark on a big squad rebuild would basically be to acknowledge that he screwed up the management of the squad over the last 3-4 years. Finally, another iteration of the Super League remains a possibility down the line and Levy has to know that Spurs' place in that group was very tenuous. Having another Super League formed successfully but Spurs left out of the core group would be a disastrous outcome for them both in sporting and financial terms.
I am still disappointed that we didn't get conte.
A shrewd tactician with a winning mentality like SAF coupled with being a disciplinarian.
Nevertheless, Ole has to go,
Am not a big fan of Zidane as manager.
Ernesto Valverde will do a great job at old trafford.
A shrewd tactician with a winning mentality like SAF coupled with being a disciplinarian.
Nevertheless, Ole has to go,
Am not a big fan of Zidane as manager.
Ernesto Valverde will do a great job at old trafford.
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Conte's winning mentality vs. Tottenham's bottling mentality...
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I'm so fecking glad we dodged this bullet Holt shit.
That video might be the cringiest thing in 2021 so far.
This is more like it...
Antonio Conte dealt early transfer blow by Tottenham chief Fabio Paratici
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/foo...ratici/ar-AAQhhQh?li=BBoPWjP&ocid=mailsignout
Antonio Conte dealt early transfer blow by Tottenham chief Fabio Paratici
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/foo...ratici/ar-AAQhhQh?li=BBoPWjP&ocid=mailsignout
Difficult to believe this ….I’d have thought the January transfer window would have already been discussed prior to Conte signing.
Tabloid bollocks..
It sounds like they had to work rather hard to manufacture that headline.
Paratici isn't going to come out and say the squad is badly flawed and needs reinforcement. He'll keep his cards closer to the vest.
The names being bandied about as likely Spurs signing are all ridiculous though, especially as January transfers.
The names being bandied about as likely Spurs signing are all ridiculous though, especially as January transfers.
Oh dear he won’t like that
Conte is the type to bench Kane if he fecks around like he usually has this season
Kane is a certain starter
I would assume that the transfer plans are largely on hold till the summer, when it seems that the plan might be to sell Kane and spend the proceeds on Vlahovic and some new midfielders/defenders.
All they will be thinking about between now and then is finishing 4th in the Premier League.
This is going round like an epidemic by rival fans, who can't even be bothered to authenticate what it means.
That "quote" isn't a quote, but a paraphrased summation, as typical of the Telegraph. The actual quote, from 2017, was:
The context behind it was the table looked like this at the time:
| Position | Team | P | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts |
| 1 | Chelsea | 31 | 24 | 3 | 4 | 65 | 25 | +40 | 75 |
| 2 | Tottenham | 31 | 20 | 8 | 3 | 64 | 22 | +42 | 68 |
| 3 | Liverpool | 32 | 18 | 9 | 5 | 68 | 40 | +28 | 63 |
| 4 | Manchester City | 31 | 18 | 7 | 6 | 60 | 35 | +25 | 61 |
| 5 | Manchester United | 30 | 15 | 12 | 3 | 46 | 24 | +22 | 57 |
That makes that a lot less hyperbole. Thanks for the explanation.
They’ll want him to get Spurs into Europe, ideally top 4 ….they’ll back him In January if necessary.
I've also wondered about this. And in most SciFi movies opposites - or different versions of the same person - meeting each other lead to the End of the World. That would be typical Spurs.