Aye, he always puts out weird training vids. I read it was because since the sparring footage of Spadafora besting him got out he keeps all the work of him (really) in camp behind closed doors.
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Aye, he always puts out weird training vids. I read it was because since the sparring footage of Spadafora besting him got out he keeps all the work of him (really) in camp behind closed doors.
And it's not I gather..?
Nope.
Probably could have used a better analogy tbf. Somewhere incredibly violent and scary, basically. Which Crumlin isn't. Just a little rough around the edges.
I was a McGregor fan first and foremost but have really gotten into MMA thanks to him (only UFC though and not Bellator and stuff). You learn a great deal when reading through the mma thread on here. I want to get into boxing as well after this event but feel like I need a young exciting fighter to get behind, not someone like Joshua (or is he regarded as exciting?).
Would be embarrasing for boxing as a whole if Conor wins tomorrow tbh. I think Mayweather will KO him in round 5 or 6.
Would be embarrasing for boxing as a whole if Conor wins tomorrow tbh. I think Mayweather will KO him in round 5 or 6.
AJ is exciting for sure. He drops bombs and stops people and also has vulnerabilities. His fight with Wlad Klit was one of the best in years at HW. There is no verbose showman like McGregor in boxing currently though, a new Prince Nas needs to arrive.
Depends on how he loses really. If he goes the distance, shows heart, manages to make it vaguely competetive or lands some significant shots on Mayweather (knocking him down, say) then he certainly leaves with pride intact. It's difficult to on the one hand argue that he has zero chance of winning and on the other argue that not winning is automatically a humiliation.
Not really. In my opinion he has no chance. In his he's going to win easily. When he loses badly in front of millions after all his bluster he's going to be humiliated.
Anyway my Facebook/WhatsApp crowd, most of them long-time MMA heads (i.e. pre-McGregor) have all convinced themselves McGregor is gonna dust him.
Yeah funnily enough I just saw this on Facebook under some footage of Mayweather Vs Canelo
"This is old footage mothertime has caught him up now When you train and fight you get to know the fight game you figure this out pretty quick your either a Lamp or a wolf ...tip for you casuals out their... be a wolf , Connor sleeps him in 5."
Dunno what's funnier..."lamp" or "casuals"
See, this is the shite I can't stand with McGregor fans. They echo and mirror everything he says and does. I have no problem with a multi-millionaire fighter being belligerent as that's the facade he's built up; I do have a problem with double-digits-IQ-Johnny who hasn't a fecking clue about anything - ever - talking shite, being ultra-aggressive in his tone, and mimicking his hero.
That only makes sense if you actually hold fighters to their pre-fight shit-talk, which would be a slightly bizarre thing to do if you follow fighting sports generally. Any informed viewer knows how the game works.
The reality is most people aren't going to demand that he wins for him to come out of the ring with credibility. If you think losing competitively means he's been humiliated then that's your opinion but I think you'll be surprised to see the majority of people actually giving him credit. Despite his hyping of his own abilities, even most MMA fans understand the reality of the fight.
In terms of personality or actual ability?
There's not many to match McGregor's personality as @Classical Mechanic points out. In terms of exciting to watch Joshua is a knockout specialist, his fight with Wlad was brilliant and they're usually entertaining but it's not back and forth action. Golovkin is usually entertainment, Lomachenko, Crawford is probably the next big thing and take a look at Gervonta Davis on the undercard this weekend. There's a few more as well I quite like watching people like Frampton fight (his 2 fights vs. Leo Santa Cruz were 2 of the best in the last few years.) The problem is none of them have the personality of a McGregor or Mayweather to get people watching or talking about them.
I'm not really a boxing fan, but I've been watching quite a lot of fights recently. Check out Vasyl Lomachenko. I'd say he's quite an exciting boxer.
A bit of both, but style inside the ring is more important to me. A bit like the Cody Garbrandt equivalent of boxing, someone who's not quite there yet but definitely has the potential to be a world champion within three to five years. I'll definitely have a look at the names you listed!
Cheers, read that name before in this thread I think. Will do!
Make sure to check out Golovkin vs. Canelo on the 16th September as well mate, that's the next big fight in boxing and has been in the works for years (typical boxing politics.) Canelo is another big name in boxing who you've probably heard of...fought Mayweather and had a brutal KO of Khan last year. It will be a good fight though.
There is a few good names in boxing at the moment, Terence Crawford on that list has just become an undisputed champion at 29 and is hugely exciting, Lomachenko is worth the watch and should be stepping up his opposition in his next few fights to live up to the reputation he's been given.
Despite a few nay sayers it is in a good place boxing. For me it's better than it's been for the last few years and there's loads of match ups that could happen that will be exciting. Boxing politics will get in the way of some of them unfortunately but that's happened for years.
Yeah I know about those politicans since I've read a book about Ali's life. Thanks for the suggestions! Let's get the thread back on topic now
That's what I thought you meant.. Beirut is supposed to be one of the best cities in the Middle East. Can't go there myself to verify, but from all I've seen on the tele and the internet, it's a great liberal city.
The UFC’s cut will be separate from the fighter earnings. Floyd could apparently make 200-300m
I think they mean Beirut in the 80s
If he loses in the manner I expect him to he's going to be completely embarrassed. If he does well of course he's going to get credit.
That's a different story.
They both signed a confidentiality agreement regarding their purses so we can only speculate. What we do know is that McGregor is under contract with the UFC and this fight is only happening because of their say so.
Yep definitely. Conor has said he will be quadrupling his net worth with this fight so make of that what you will. Floyd has also floated the 200-300m figure in separate interviews and the possibility of this being a $1B fight.
Are you buying it out of interest? For 20 quid over here it's not to badly priced...just stateside the price is ridiculous! NOt as bad if get a few people to chip in and make a night of it.
Not sure. Its $100 here so haven't decided yet.
Has anybody ordered box office on Virgin before? I'm going out to watch it but my brothers are staying home to watch it, just wondering if you can order it through virgin and watch it online (laptop/PC) or does it have to be through the TV box?
YEah fair enough, it's a bit steep really just seems a ridiculous price and if anything prices people out (it's cheaper to go out and watch it!)
I've not watched on laptop or PC but I have ordered on the box downstairs and watched it on the box upstairs so it could be the same thing. You can't record box office on it though.
I'm not even going to watch. Can't be arsed getting up in the night for such a fight.
I am tempted to stay up but I'm not paying to watch it. Couple of fights on the undercard are interesting. Cleverly vs Jack is a decent match up.
Us UFC fans are used to the 6.30am bedtimes at this stage
I would like to get a couple hours kip before getting up for it but that's unlikely to happen.
This is the big difference between the sports, Dana would have stacked this card.
UFC should have controlled the undercard, the octagon / ring mechanics be damned
UFC should have controlled the undercard, the octagon / ring mechanics be damned
Floyd not having any of Ariels typical shit stirring on the IV stuff
Yeah, it was great watching him shut him down.
There's also an extended version that's about 6-7 mins and that's where Conor looks putrid. In 6-7 mins it's often hard to determine how good a guy is but it's easy to spot someone who's bad and Conor is awful. As a Boxer he's a bum. He's the worst fighter to ever feature on a Showtime or HBO card for me and by far.
Van Heerden said his power is average, that his left is respectable but easy to see, time and counter. He also said he gets a look on his face after two rounds that suggests he doesn't want to be in there and is totally discouraged.
Lomachenko and Terence Crawford are the two best boxers right now. They will be around a while. Both are complete boxers with mean streaks.
Young talent there's a guy called Erickson Lubin in the 154lbs division who fights for a title soon (as an underdog b a good champ in Charlo), Oscar Valdez at 126 is very exciting and young. Naoya Inoue from Japan is a young phenom too amazing puncher.
A good start point will be September 9th-24th
Sept 9th the best triple header in a long time
Roman Chocolatito Gonzalez v sor Rungvisai - Chocolatito is the most entertaining fighter of recent times and a legend this is a re-match to a fight he got robbed by controversial decision. All action.
Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras - both went close v Chocolatito and have been good world champions the winner of this meets the winner of above. I've been really high on Estrada but he's had some injuries and inactivity and Cuadras is a big personality and spirited fighter.
Inoue fights also in his US debut on the card.
September 16th Golovkin v Canelo - nuff said.
September 23rd
Jorge Linares v Luke Campbell - Linares throws beautiful punches and combos but is vulnerable enough that his fights always have added excitement. Campbell is a live underdog from the U.K. with good amateur pedigree.
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Well everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess.
Keep in mind he was brought in to mimic Nate Diaz, tall and rangey. You can see in the video that Connor is at half speed and looking for options other than properly fighting. It was a walkthrough. It's also been mentioned many times it was a walkthrough by pundits and analysts.
We'll see how good or poor his boxing is on Saturday. Right now I'm more interested in seeing him vs Paulie as I just think that would be a better fight.
It's amazing how he gets away with such sloppy technique in MMA. I had some very basic boxing training a few years ago and had it beaten in to me how important it is to protect your chin with your trailing hand when you throw a punch. McGregor leaves his chin constantly exposed. It will be a piece of piss for Floyd to time him and land clean shots.
I don't know much about striking in MMA. Maybe he gets away with it because the risk of kicks and takedowns means they engage at longer range and almost never trade up close? Whatever. He will have had to completely retrain his muscle memory to iron out flaws like that. Which is a huge ask over such a short period of time.
Andy Lee is bang on the money IMO.
He also said (in another interview) that all the Mallinggnagi (spelling?) drama was just him trying to create a beef so he can have a big pay day, fighting Conor after he loses to Mayweather. Which is probably also spot on.
He's right about his technique. In the brief footage with Paulie he's throwing slaps with the inside of his fist quite a bit.