who is he and why is he gaining inspiration from Duran Duran?
Im not sure if he is a friend of Moyes, an aquaintance or his lover. Hard to tell looking at the twitter feed.
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Im not sure if he is a friend of Moyes, an aquaintance or his lover. Hard to tell looking at the twitter feed.
More to the point, who the hell is he?
Michael’s experience in elite sport goes back to 1998 when he began working with snooker player Jimmy White. Since then Michael has provided elite level performance coaching to Bolton Wanderers, David Moyes and Everton F.C., Wigan Warriors, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Andrew Flintoff and three international cricket teams.
Michael is a Performance Director for Chubby Chandler’s ISM and works with their stable of European Tour golfers including 2011 Open Champion Darren Clarke.
So it appears he works with Moyes. Comes across like a kid on Twitter mind you.
You're not wrong mate but this place could have been renamed Moyescafe over the last few months since there were so many threads dedicated to the man, and the ones that weren't invariably ended up discussing him anyway.
So i would imagine the Moyes debate will rumble on for a few weeks yet until the transfer window opens and we can all unleash our inner Muppets.
£150 million
I hear you. But-jeez, we've raised a glass in his honor, had the wake and buried the body. And people are still upset that their uncle sent a crappy flower arrangement to the funeral. It's like a bad Eastenders story line.
Rest assured that Moyes will try to make it difficult for us when we visit Villa away next season.
Revenge is a dish best served cold after all!
By the time Dithering Dave decides what's going on the plate it'll be fecking stone cold
Yet more Rooney favouritism from the Moyes Mob!
What revenge would that be. Moyes managing a team that beats us?
That isnt revenge. Moyes being responsible for manchester united losing is more of a theme.
Really, mate? and just give up those millions of dollars/pounds?
Someday surely someone will be writing a book on his whole time at United.
It will be a riveting read.
"The Damn United 2".
It will be a riveting read.
"The Damn United 2".
If he goes and wins the CL with Forest now we'll certainly look very silly.
What a hoot. Bolton Wanderers and elite never belong in the same sentence.
Everytime I remember that Moyes has been sacked I get this feeling inside, and a great big smile across my face. Its really werid.
All these stories now coming out just confirm what we all knew. All you had to do was watch one of our matches this season and you could tell the players were deeply unhappy, and no surprise really.
All these stories now coming out just confirm what we all knew. All you had to do was watch one of our matches this season and you could tell the players were deeply unhappy, and no surprise really.
As long as you don't get caught reminiscing whilst walking by a school playground you should be fine.
Yes because the media always tell the truth and we must believe everything they say.
And the players, poor them for being unhappy, and I guess we must absolve them of all responsibility!Im not saying there would be many who would do it, but in my opinion its the right thing to do from a moral stand point yes.
If you agree to take on a job and get paid for that job then realize you are not capable of doing it, then you should hold your hands up.
Having said that though i know there are very few people who would be that brave and admit they are in over their head, or risk losing a big payoff.
And it was just a hypothetical discussion since none of know for sure if Moyes was aware he was actually out of his depth.
Am I the only one who hopes that I don't see Moyes ever as a Premier League manager (unless he is a manager of one of our rivals)? I think that the sooner Premier League will be free of dynosaurs like him, Pulis, Allardyce etc (who yes, they can do a job on shit teams) and replace them with progressive young managers like Rodgers, Martinez, Pochetino etc the better.
No one would do that in any kind of job, unless you absolutely hated the job and had something else lined up.
In most industries if you're not qualified to do your job you either try and learn or just blag it and hide behind someone else. Most trades have people in them when they don't have a clue what they're doing, some people even go their whole working careers getting away with it! Just the way it is.
It's all well and good speaking about morals and dignity but when there's money and a career involved then most of the goes out the window.
Maybe in an idealistic world from your stand point but in fairness to them kind of managers top teams have struggled to beat them in the past. Look at Pulis for example at Stoke and now Palace, big teams hate playing them, until that kind of football is well and truly beaten then there's always a market for it.
It's not only a hypothetical discussion, it's also a crap discussion. David Moyes did not become manager of one of the biggest football clubs in the world by giving up when everything seems to be falling apart. Nor would I have wanted him to. We agreed a contract with him, as long as the club let him stay, it was his duty to keep believing in himself and trying to turn things around. Had he just resigned, I would've thought a lot less of him for having such a defeatist attitude.
He performed his job to the best of his abbilities. Sadly for him and everyone else involved, that just wasn't enough. But I can't and never will fault the man for taking on the challenge and continuing to do so even though he looked like the wrong man for the job.
This entire thread is full of people going out of their way to find reasons to kick a man while he's down, but most of them are ridiculous attempts. I'd have this one high up that list.
Yes because the media always tell the truth and we must believe everything they say.
Of course the media don't always tell the truth but theres some stories coming from respected journos with good connections with the club that don't paint Moyes or the players in a particularly good light.
What do we do ignore anything that makes Moyes look bad while believing everything written about the players behaviour just so we can lay into them for being unprofessional, because thats exactly what some on here are doing.
I don't think anyone is absolving the players completely in all of this, well at least no one with sense is. But these players play for the team we support like it or not so criticizing them will achieve absolutely nothing.
If people were prepared to still support Moyes into next season despite his abject performance and obvious deficiencies this season then im sure they can grant the players a similar courtesy.
I know that and I said that they can do a job. Moyes did a very good job at Everton, Pulis is doing a very good job at Palace. However, the likes of Martinez, Pochetino, Rodgers and possibly Laudrup (which sacking I didn't understand) have shown that they can do a good job while also playing progressive football. I hope that the clubs who are looking for new managers would go for those types of manager instead of dinosaurs who while proveide more safety that the club won't go down, on the other side are bad for Premier League. Imagine all small clubs having the likes of Pochetino as their manager. A few years from now and the Premier League would be undoubtedly the best league in the world, combining the players development and good tactics with the money it have. Now it is a strong league - likely still the best - but that is exclusively because of the money and the players who come from other leagues.
'Moyes sacked' is a symbolical trophy to all of the fellow supporters that wasn't easily hyped by this bullshit artist and fraud.
Sadly I trusted his judgement and abilities for a few long months.
Never again.
Sadly I trusted his judgement and abilities for a few long months.
Never again.
I think you guys might have missed the rest of the discussion that started between myself and @Red Hand Devil and read that post out of context it was about managers in general and not David Moyes in particular.
My previous posts already touch most of what you are saying, i know full well there are many people in jobs where they don't have clue what they are doing and try to blag it.
I even said in an earlier post that i understand someone in a regular job doing it if they actually needed the job and money to pay bills etc., the discussion was about whether Millionaire football managers should be dragging jobs out while running clubs into the ground just to get a big payoff. Which is a scenario i don't agree with.
Its a crap discussion in your opinion because i suspect you didn't read the rest of it, if you had read the rest of the discussion you would have known it was about managers in general and not David Moyes in particular. As i said in an earlier post if Moyes thought he could turn it around and be a success fair enough i wouldn't criticize the man for not resigning.
But if he knew he was out of his depth was likely to get sacked and was just dragging it out to get a pay off then i would criticize him for that. Hes a millionaire he doesn't need the money.
Again had you read what was actually being discussed you would know we were not even really speaking about Moyes, nor was it an attempt to kick him while hes down.
If you are so desperate to defend David Moyes there are plenty of people on here who are actually laying the boot into him, theres absolutely no need for you to read post of mine out of context and jump on it because of some perceived slight.
My previous posts already touch most of what you are saying, i know full well there are many people in jobs where they don't have clue what they are doing and try to blag it.
I even said in an earlier post that i understand someone in a regular job doing it if they actually needed the job and money to pay bills etc., the discussion was about whether Millionaire football managers should be dragging jobs out while running clubs into the ground just to get a big payoff. Which is a scenario i don't agree with.
Its a crap discussion in your opinion because i suspect you didn't read the rest of it, if you had read the rest of the discussion you would have known it was about managers in general and not David Moyes in particular. As i said in an earlier post if Moyes thought he could turn it around and be a success fair enough i wouldn't criticize the man for not resigning.
But if he knew he was out of his depth was likely to get sacked and was just dragging it out to get a pay off then i would criticize him for that. Hes a millionaire he doesn't need the money.
Again had you read what was actually being discussed you would know we were not even really speaking about Moyes, nor was it an attempt to kick him while hes down.
If you are so desperate to defend David Moyes there are plenty of people on here who are actually laying the boot into him, theres absolutely no need for you to read post of mine out of context and jump on it because of some perceived slight.
I was bored and reading some of the articles being written when he was appointed this bit really stuck out.
Moyes and SAF were such polar opposites in terms of negativity vs positivity it's a wonder he ever recommended him.
Moyes and SAF were such polar opposites in terms of negativity vs positivity it's a wonder he ever recommended him.
Not just the Glazers, the players, the fans...Don't know how any decent Utd supporter can wish him well. He was given a dream job and effed up everything from day one, ruining our club and ignoring advice from those who knew better, including Sir Alex, who still backed him till the end. (Moyes reneged on a verbal agreement not to change the backroom staff.)
Even the fans backed Moyes when it was clear he didn't have a clue when choosing to 'fix' something that didn't need fixing. This is one of the rare occasions where the Glazers actually did their job properly. He was never the right man for the job, and anyone who thinks he was needs a visit from the men in white coats. I would love Moyes to come back with another team so we can knock five past them. Let's face it, he didn't know what made our team tick so no chance of him having any inside knowledge on us.
Same here.. And Giggs vowed the same too:
Giggs: We want to put the smiles back on fans' faces
Sounds like a drunken lambasting - we've all done that - just wouldnt be doin that shit on Twatter...
Same here.. And Giggs vowed the same too:
Giggs: We want to put the smiles back on fans' faces
Are they gonna hand free E's at OT tomorrow?
Why are you so harsh on our ex employee? What has he done to deserve this? He's been with United for 5 years training our lads. I have not heard him bad mouthing United or something. His assessment of Moyes (after he's sacked) was fair. He was hard done by when he's forced to leave (when Moyes tried to downgrade his role).
Give him respect where's due.
He's Moyes' sports psychologist. Did a pretty shit job tbh.
Someone who dares not post his real face on twitter and sprout stuff in codes. What a man!
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Yes. I don't really get about this 'sympathy' thing. He's a new guy, so most United fans shouldn't have strong emotional attach to this guy. What's the different between him and those CEOs and bankers that bankrupting US economy. They all did horrible job, while getting paid well and get undeserved severance package when get laid off. Surely they all work hard and do their best to be successful.
Ding Dong the witch is dead
Exactly man!
Moyes is still a useless cnut though
Exactly
Getting ridiculous that some posters now seem to be prowling the forums ready to jump on anyone who has the audacity to suggest Moyes was perhaps a bit of a shit manager for us, or who in any way questions the great leaders character.
The fact you are not even really discussing Moyes doesn't even matter, you could be and you won't get away with it.
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