Finally.
Now, that's one problem fixed. Time to get back to work
Now, that's one problem fixed. Time to get back to work
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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This is the most damning picture I have ever seen. The smirking Everton staff at the background really sums it up.
Good guy, but never a United manager.
Really? Rio and Vidic have both had awful seasons and the other three have frequently looked lost without a more confident partner alongside them. Even if we ignore injuries, which are of course unforeseen, I feel like bringing in a more confident centre back who could play a higher line could have helped us this year.
I think those Cup games against Sunderland then the crossing practice against Fulham were the turning points. I remember after one of those Sunderland games he came out after talking about the referee and saying "We've started to laugh at them" because a couple of decisions hadnt gone our way and it seemed really small time.
You've already forgotten that mate, it was £27.5M not £30M...
The Sky Sports News story sounds like a parody of football reports
or like it is by someone doing a rubbish Jeremy Clarkson impression.
They also keep showing the Sir Alex Ferguson speech, telling us to stand by the manager, but to be fair we did, even when we were losing. Bar plane-gate and on here.
or like it is by someone doing a rubbish Jeremy Clarkson impression.
They also keep showing the Sir Alex Ferguson speech, telling us to stand by the manager, but to be fair we did, even when we were losing. Bar plane-gate and on here.
Sunderland game was where I lost my patience. That was his opportunity to show everyone that he was a winner, that he could win trophies at United. He bottled it big time against a Sunderland team that were bottom of the PL. Sunderland players were motivated that day, ours weren't. It was a terrible game, Kagawa taken off after an hour and we lose all control on the pitch. Then when we make a late breakthrough and get a match turning goal in the final minute we bottle the penalties horribly. It was just a terrible, terrible performance. That match occurred a week or two after the Swansea FA Cup loss too. I remember being so angry after that Sunderland game.
"If you get the ball back you can get your job back"
-shamelessly stolen off twitter
Malcolm please stop, it's not good for your heart.
This is the most damning picture I have ever seen. The smirking Everton staff at the background really sums it up.
Good guy, but never a United manager.
No sympathy. He shouldn't be having a piss on the touchline like that.
We said the same many many many many many times when SAF was here.
That summed the man up. Running around like a simpleton who'd won a competition.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4069309.ece
@Damien can you please post that article?
@Damien can you please post that article?
It looks interesting! I want to read!
Thanks for that. That's actually quite interesting from that Bayern fan.
@Balu would be nice to get your opinions on LVG.
Aye, I thought it was a terrific post and worth reading. I think if Van Gaal does come, he'll make a number of decisions that will raise eyebrows, but he's a manager that seems to get it right. It'll be interesting to see which youth players he likes the look of!
This is all assuming Van Gaal is going to us. But his U-turn on the Tottenham post suggests we've been in touch tbh.
SSN reporting that the severance pack has not yet been agreed
I would be shocked though if the Glazers havent been savy enough to have clauses in their favour all over his contract
I would be shocked though if the Glazers havent been savy enough to have clauses in their favour all over his contract
I see a LB, a CB, two first team central MF & a quality wide player. That's five of the first team.
We can't rely on the fitness of our CB's, young as they are, particularly Evans & Jones, though Smalling too has missed a spell, requiring Carrick & even Fletcher to have a spell in there.
In midfield we've been short for years - Carrick & Fletchers time has gone.
We need to freshen up with a wide player - the ones we have are stale & we can't load everything onto Januzaj (& Lingard).
We may even need two left backs if Evra goes, as clearly Buttner is not United quality.
There's my rebuild.
Fellaini will never break into the first 11 & can you imagine what our new European Manager, is going to make of him - SOLD in 12 months.
Mata - we saw at Everton - he runs with the power of a 14 year old - SOLD in 12 months.
Well, I don't think the fact that this has occurred right after it's become mathematically impossible for us to get 4th is a coincidence. The Glazers might not know a lot about football, but they know about money, and they'd definitely have multiple performance and severance clauses built into the contract, especially one that was for six years.
The main thing really though is focusing on who our new manager will be. They won't have Fergie to blame this time if it goes pear-shaped again.
Lol, I am pretty sure that the new manager will be a football manager, not a sprinter coach.Nonsense, we will build the team around him and play to his strengths.
Just realised that this is the first day in my lifetime that United haven't had a permanent manager. Weird. Beyond the veil here!
I don't understand accusations the club have done this in a classless way.
Anywhere else the manager would have been under pressure through media leaks since November. As Vialli said, he'd have been sacked three times already. The club gave nothing but public backing and support to him. How many here held the view that regardless of what happened he'd be here next season only 48 hours ago?
Moyes has been under pressure and had people questioning his job for merely a matter of hours, anywhere else it would have been weeks or months. So I think we shouldn't be too harsh on how the club dealt with it.
Anywhere else the manager would have been under pressure through media leaks since November. As Vialli said, he'd have been sacked three times already. The club gave nothing but public backing and support to him. How many here held the view that regardless of what happened he'd be here next season only 48 hours ago?
Moyes has been under pressure and had people questioning his job for merely a matter of hours, anywhere else it would have been weeks or months. So I think we shouldn't be too harsh on how the club dealt with it.
I swear the first guy interviewed is Rooney in disguise
My point, was that Nani was returning an extended lay off through injury & being thrown into that particular fixture. IF, he's going to be brought back in, then it's last 20 mins in a home game.
Won't happen. What will piss me off is seeing how they suddenly all remember how to play football, as if they had been in a straight-jacket before being turned to shit against their will.
I know it's common and there's a reason for the phrase "playing for the manager", but they play for Manchester United and that should always be enough.
Of course they are not without fault. My opinion has always been I cannot hold my view to be more valuable than the board because due to my limited information my opinion would be with greater fault.
Take the new manager, I am not conducting a thorough assessment of candidates nor do I have information that the board will have therefore I would sooner respect their appointment, whoever it might be, than not.
It is clear one season without champions league football will not harm the club. They undertook an experiment, they took a calculated gamble. The board knew very well they were taking a risk, but they understood it was worth it. They would have loved to recreate Ferguson and let David grow into the role, nobody in their right mind thought he would have finished 7th!
Considering they could take the risk there was nothing wrong with doing so because if it paid off, it would have been great business wise. I'm a firm believer in taking calculated risks, sometimes they work out and other times they do not.
I'm not an expert on our financial situation and to be honest, I don't have a problem with them because I would sooner owners who don't get involved too much than an Abromovich or somebody who wants to sell the old trafford name or change our kit colours or even the club name!
Also, I don't comment on that because I do not know what Ferguson's true opinion on the matter was. We seem to be financially healthy and a £100m investment appears to be realistic therefore I do not know whether the board refused Ferguson funds or whether he was content in not spending them until the right players became available.
Our squad is not bad, Moyes under performed. A centre back, left back and two central midfielders is all we need to be competing on all fronts. Had Vidic not left, the centre back would have been less of a concern, had Patrice not shown such an obvious decline, we could have been more patient there too and Moyes got his central midfield signing wrong.
Every United player has to have the ability to track back & cover. Mata will never be able to do this. My son has shin splints right now & runs just like Mata. He's a wonderful footballer but he's no United player - I actually wonder if he'd make much difference at any EPL club, purely because the game is so physical here now.
I think that's harsh. The only way they would have not looked a pile of crap is if they openly revolted against the managers tactics and instruction and the mutnity would have landed them in more criticism.
I don't think what we've seen is players not playing for a manager at all. It's been a manager incapable of finding a system to suit the players he has. If there was two or three really crap performers this year then an argument can be made that they've switched off. But when a whole team switches off I think you can either think they've all spontaneously decided to do so, or it's merely a consequence of what they've been instructed to do since August.
Aye I'd be pretty stunned if it wasn't Van Gaal.
I swear the first guy interviewed is Rooney in disguise
He is a perfect cross of Rooney and Mata. But yeah, the resemblance is uncanny.
Welcome to the world of the managerial merry go round! You all celebrate now, but this is just the beginning.
You know that actually the new manager (highly rumoured to be Van Gaal) is more interested in the football aspect, rather than how fast or strong players are. It's football, not american football. Scholes was never strong or big or fast or physical but he is the best central midfielder on the history of our club.
Mata would be integral to Van Gaal's plans, mark my words.
Then we'll be carrying a passenger. Even Cantona & RVP have been back to make clearances off the line - Mata is not athletic enough & so despite his skills, his vision, he'll be a passenger. He can't break forward at pace either - & that IS, the United way IMO.
How have we got all them points then? I know how, they played the way they knew in the first half, and Rooney was playing for his contract.
His tactics didn't stop them doing a reasonable job against Bayern. What was the difference between those two games and all other games before, after and in between?
Van Gaal will probably try to keep Kagawa and form the partnership with him and Mata. Not sure what will happen with Rooney as recently he has looked a bit of a problem, Im not too sure which players will be happy or sad to see Moyes go.
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