Really hope we go for Carlo. He's surprisingly 54 (yes, 54) and he's a frigging 4 times CL winner (2 player, 2 manager)! Please lose all games until the end of the season so Real Madrid sack you and you come to us!!!
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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Yeah, agree with this. Seems like a decent choice.
Love Klopps loyalty, we should definitely force him to sign for us.
Now fix the banner at OT!
)))The Guardian reports that Jurgen Klopp seems have hammered a nail into the coffin of reports linking him to United, saying: "My commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable."saying: "My commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable."
I want him even more now.
Top bloke. Van Gaal to steady the ship until 2018, and Klopp to take over once he honours his contract at Dortmund? He also said;
"Man Utd is a great club and I feel very familiar with their wonderful fans."
in the same statement.
I didn't get that message! And 100 pages in less than 24 hours is certainly impressive. But I think we could have had more. The newbies might be losing shit in celebrations right now.
look if we are going to start forcing people to sign for us its bound to end up in a kidnapping and him moving to chelsea - we have been there before!
4 times includes his playing days, by that logic lets get Paulo Maldini.
He'd be a good choice if available though.
I hope it too (about a contingency plan in case some candidates are not available). People have been tipping about Frank de Boer, so my guess is that he may not be so out of place if his name suddenly comes up considering how many ex-United boys work alongside him now.
Oh FFS he has been coaching for a wee while now. You do understand the difference between the manager and coaches
2 years coaching experience of the reserve team is more than zero experience and you do know the difference between being manager and being one of the coaching staff running training drills dont you?.
jesus h christ....
Either he signs or Kagawa gets it?
If the request is from sir Alex, I think he will eventually!
Meanwhile Giggs will become assistant to the main man. What is even better is to bring back Rene and Phelan who have been commanding respect from playersSome reports even suggested he offered his resignation after Liverpool, these are merely reports though but would be interesting if so. I doubt it is, reports also suggested we had already approached Klopp and van Gaal however Sky Sports just said United said they are yet to approach anybody about the job.
These are just reports, but the one you are talking about, what I read suggested he was ready to offer his resignation after that bad run however the board gave him a little more time.
They wanted him to succeed and they gave him every possible chance.
Woodward was talking about lucrative friendlies or something. They seem to have a financial plan to limit the effect of no champions league football.
They obviously explored their options and took the risk they deemed most appropriate.
You are basing your entire post on reports patience ran out in February yet the board continued to let him manage because they did not want to pay severance. The same reports suggested he offered to resign at some point (thus severely reduced severance) but they let him tough it out. After the return leg against Olympiakos, they probably just thought it's worth the gamble just incase he finishes strongly because of how much they wanted him to succeed.
Anybody can look back and say in hindsight something was wrong. Only they know the risk they took and I'm sure the board are good at risk assessment therefore they probably did the right thing.
I really wanted it to work out for Moyes, stood by him as much as I could but I think it became clear the players simply weren't going to buy into his plans and the sacking became inevitable then.
despite what many think he's clearly a very capable manager but he's said a lot of weak things in the press and I wonder if he were to have his time again whether he'd be a bit more aggressive in his approach to the job. I feel he started the season off giving the players far too much respect and they've responded with laziness and arrogance. You look at his players at Everton and he's never had to handle a really big ego before, I think this has been his downfall. SAF said many times that the manager has to be the most powerful figure at a football club, Moyes never gave off any air of authority in his time here. Which is strange given he had a reputation for being no-nonsense.
wish him every success in his next post
despite what many think he's clearly a very capable manager but he's said a lot of weak things in the press and I wonder if he were to have his time again whether he'd be a bit more aggressive in his approach to the job. I feel he started the season off giving the players far too much respect and they've responded with laziness and arrogance. You look at his players at Everton and he's never had to handle a really big ego before, I think this has been his downfall. SAF said many times that the manager has to be the most powerful figure at a football club, Moyes never gave off any air of authority in his time here. Which is strange given he had a reputation for being no-nonsense.
wish him every success in his next post
What? How does that make any sense at all? I don't remember Maldini winning it 2 times as a manager.
And Carlo is proven in all divisions for all teams he has managed. Not to mention Chelsea, which proves he can do it here. And after being at Madrid, you'd imagine he could handle the pressure.
You have to respect that.The Guardian reports that Jurgen Klopp seems have hammered a nail into the coffin of reports linking him to United, saying: "My commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable."saying: "My commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable."
I want him even more now.
Still, I'm thinking: "Fecking why??"
In an odd way I kind of hope Klopp sticks to his word. He's a breath of fresh air for football.
Top bloke. Van Gaal to steady the ship until 2018, and Klopp to take over once he honours his contract at Dortmund? He also said;
"Man Utd is a great club and I feel very familiar with their wonderful fans."
in the same statement.
Are United the only prem team to have never had an overseas manager? Anyway, Klopp or Simeone for me, I can't think of anyone else. I can't see those two leaving though, so who is left realistically?
Hardly.
I feel very sorry for the man - but why, in God's name, could he not see the mistakes he was making, even when the world and his wife were pointing them out. Three No. 10s, no wide play, Kagawa rarely used where he shines - the list is endless.
And injuries aside, it's ridiculous that he never put the the same team out twice.
And thus the merry-go-round of sacking and hiring managers begins.
I am glad he's gone but I'm terrified of the future.
I am glad he's gone but I'm terrified of the future.
Fantastic news at last. After a season defined by dithering and indecision and dismal performance those in charge have moved decisively and I am OVER THE MOON that Moyes is gone. The club was imploding and there can surely be no legitimate qualms about his removal. I struggle to understand sympathy for him. He has fallen short in every possible sense and damaged this club no end in the process and I shudder to think what would have happened if he had been allowed to remain for the start of a rebuild. Thankfully we remain robust enough as a club to roll with this and I hope that lessons are learned primarily that there is no room for complacency. Thats whats handicapped us here - the idea that SAF could summararily appoint a likeness as his successor and all would continue to be paradise in the garden. I congratulate those involved in having the guts to get this done and that includes the players who have contributed too.
I'm sure he will do well at a club at his level but his shot at the big time is now over - at least he is several million quid richer to assuage the hurt.
Seeya Dave and best of luck Ryan (and Nicky) for the remainder of the season.
I'm sure he will do well at a club at his level but his shot at the big time is now over - at least he is several million quid richer to assuage the hurt.
Seeya Dave and best of luck Ryan (and Nicky) for the remainder of the season.
Has Jupp Heynckes name come up yet??
Well we knew Moyes was going to be the manager a long time before he was officially appointed so I'm just going to say Van Gaal.
Does that matter to you.
I feel for Moyes. I feel for the club. I feel for SAF. I'm just so relieved it's over.
Moyes never asked for this job, you don't say no to Sir Alex, especially if you're a dour Scot.
It should never have happened in the first place. We need a proven winner or someone who has clearly shown signs of a great footballing philosophy and improving teams ten fold (Martinez, Simeone, Rodgers pre-LFC come to mind). Moyes was never any of that.
Here's hoping we get the right man and the right signings in and out this summer and start from scratch next season.
Moyes never asked for this job, you don't say no to Sir Alex, especially if you're a dour Scot.
It should never have happened in the first place. We need a proven winner or someone who has clearly shown signs of a great footballing philosophy and improving teams ten fold (Martinez, Simeone, Rodgers pre-LFC come to mind). Moyes was never any of that.
Here's hoping we get the right man and the right signings in and out this summer and start from scratch next season.
Like if said he'd be a good choice if available, but as a manager, he has won 2 CLs, like Mourinho and Guardiola, no need to exaggerate his managerial achievements.
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Sets a precedent for players who sign a new contract and think that they can just break it to move elsewhere. I think Klopp likes to lead by example, and I really respect him for that. Also, don't forget that Dortmund are a huge club, 90k passionate fans watching attractive attacking football every week. Difficult to give that up, even for a team like United.
I though of him but he's basically retired isn't he? And doesn't he still have some official affiliation with Bayern?
Don't worry. It can't get worse than what we've seen this season. It will never be this bad again.
I somehow get the impression, Dave asking the Glazers for massive funs this summer for a rebuild, didn't help him on the decision to oust him prior the summer.
Am I a bad person for being in a happy mood this morning over this news?
I know I shouldn't celebrate someone losing his job really but atm this just feels too good, too liberating.
I know I shouldn't celebrate someone losing his job really but atm this just feels too good, too liberating.
From the daily mail, i can't believe there are still people who think he should be given another season.
This @Vato1979
Course not. Every five minutes I remind myself that he's gone and do a Tim Henman style fist clench
Don't get this hysterical reaction.
Chelsea chop and change every season, they've never fallen to the embarrassing level we have this season. We have the finance, the players, the structure to continue to be successful. Why do people think a competent manager can't come in and fix things.
Why do people think firing the worse performing manager this season by a country mile constitutes as "chopping and changing".
I really really really don't what more Moyes could have done to justify his sacking. It's the most appropriate and understandable sacking in the history of the PL.
If he does, that's incredibly petty. Sacking Moyes is in the best interests of the club and those interests are more important than that of SAF's.
this was a big fear of mine and one of the reasons I backed Moyes to the end, despite feeling he'd ballsed it up in the end. I know its part of the modern game but I don't want to turn into one of these clubs who hires a new manager every time they lose 2 games.
you also wonder just how powerful our players are feeling right now, if they don't like the next guy are they gonna hound him out too? just keep putting in half assed displays until someone they like gets the job
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