Club Sale | It’s done!

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Why is that? Why does we hold a superior moral ground?

This club stands for success, were not a moral guide for anything. We're a football club and our history relies on tradition and most importantly on success.

Some people don't like the Qatar regime I understand that, but it has nothing to do with us. Not wanting Qatar because of what they represent I guess you don't consume anything from the middle east as well.

This fake moralism needs to die. I'll choose the one who has most chances of gets us back where we belong. In my eyes that's Qatar at this moment.

Very good post
 
Chairman of the QIB in his twenties…totally legit then. :rolleyes:

Were you too not a billionaire rich kid in your 20''s :lol:. Personally I was too busy getting stones and in dead-end jobs to run the bank Papa dear asked me to be chairman of :D.

Nepotism at it's finest mate, but it works for some.
 
I’m neither pro Qatar or pro Ineos. But the people throwing hissyfits about the possibility of Qatar buying us will be the same people crying in the match day threads when we’re losing to Brentford next season because we’re relying on McTominay to produce the goods from midfield. Sure, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. But be careful what you wish for is all I’ll say.
 
So you would rather burn the club to the ground and have nothing left because... umm.. Qatar bad? Jesus. You do realize we're in shitload of debt and the good wolves in sheep clothing of Elliot are going to saddle us with a hell of a lot more + high interest from which they'll drain the club till every last penny of it gets extracted?

How can you people even call yourself fans of United I'll never understand. It's insane to me this moral virtue signalling you guys like to parade about. Like Qatar owning the club is going to change anything in relation to United.
The club means different things to different people. To me it's not just about the winning, the manner in which victories are achieved matters just as much to me.

But you don't have to worry, I won't be parading anything in the (likely) case of a Qatar takeover, I'll just move on.
 
Playing youngsters from the academy, playing attacking/spectacular football, and most importantly winning.

Maybe not being owned by Qatar is a tradition as well, in that case there's about 100 clubs in top leagues that have the same tradition.
It comes from all that happened during the Busby era. That’s where the tradition and heritage of the club principally stems from and it’s this period which gave United its place in the public consciousness that it’s held ever since.

And it’s something which conflicts with the notion of state ownership. United’s above that, and it doesn’t need it either.
 
The club means different things to different people. To me it's not just about the winning, the manner in which victories are achieved matters just as much to me.

But you don't have to worry, I won't be parading anything in the (likely) case of a Qatar takeover, I'll just move on.

So in what way are you moving on then
 
Lost interest in this. They aren’t selling this is all just a waste of time. We will never be rid of them.
 
Absolutely ,

As stated in the thread earlier Qatar have always suggested they would prefer a summer takeover and it was leaked right at the start of the process so this does add up.

However I will add that this is beginning to look just like all the business deals the glazers do whether for players or anything else it will take them an inordinate amount of time to do conclude anything.
 
I’ll say it again, it’s a small market to buy United at 5-6bn, I can’t imagine there would be a market if they somehow hit this mythical 10bn, especially after annoying the one party in Qatar who probably could bid that high.

If Elliot get involved then my suspicion is they have their eyes on the lands around old trafford as the inevitable settlement when the glazers/club end up in financial difficulty down the line. They would also be whoring out old trafford for any event they could. A la spurs.
Yep. The only way I see this making sense for Elliot is them getting high interest while hoping that Glazers default on the loan, which gives them the club for less than it is worth and eventually making big cash by selling it to someone else (probably Qatar) a fee years from now.
 
Lost interest in this. They aren’t selling this is all just a waste of time. We will never be rid of them.

I am sorry but they just won't let this pass... If they mess around extremely wealthy and powerful business people then they are stuck here forever and when it does come time to sell nobody will make a move.

It is now or never for them.
 
The crazies thing in people preferring Elliot to Qatar, is that Paul Singer is a far more evil person than Qatar leaders. He essentially gives high interest loans to corrupted countries and then stripes their assets. He has given hundreds of millions to GOP, and tens of millions to Trump. He is essentially as a big donor to GOP as Koch Brothers, Ray Mercer and Sheldon Adelson.

But hey, his son is gay and so he has sympathy with gays so he is better than Qatari.
 
First it was by Easter, then by the end of March, then the end of April, then the end of the season and now the end of May

That timeline makes sense. The bidders visit Manchester the next couple of weeks or so. They get their presentations and access to more information. Then they go back and process the information. Questions gets bounced back & forth.
Then the bidders come up with their firm bid.

That's got to take at least a month for conclusion of Stage Two. That would be end-April by then.

Then I am sure they get to do an auction process between the final bids to push the prices up. And not before more questions are asked between the bidders and Raine/glazers for a final, final offer.

That wil be sometime in late May before that's concluded.
 
I don't get why Elliot are been given the red carpet treatment when they don't want to buy the club, but merely offer some sort of financing deal instead.

Surely sharks like this will be lining up to lend the money if they can get the return they are looking for.
 
I imagine Elliot are only being kept in the mix to help give the Glazers some form of bargaining power by maintaining pretence they can take on such a loan and stay in control. The reality is it would be extremely high risk for the Glazers as well as the club to get involved with them, they have around £5bn at stake so why take such a gamble now.

Elliot are just offering finance, SJR and the Qatari’s don’t need them. There are supposedly 2 other buyers and if either of them wanted Elliot’s money then they wouldn’t be having to go to Raine group directly. The fact we keep getting leaks about Elliot but no one else other is also a sign that Glazers want to use their interest as a bargaining tool.

The Glazers have said all along they are looking at options other than a full sale so if they only took offers of a full sale to the next stage it would just be admitting that was nonsense.
 
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I don't get why Elliot are been given the red carpet treatment when they don't want to buy the club, but merely offer some sort of financing deal instead.

Surely sharks like this will be lining up to lend the money if they can get the return they are looking for.
The other bidders are going to OT next week, starting on Monday with Qatar.
 
The other bidders are going to OT next week, starting on Monday with Qatar.

I get that, just confused as to why Elliot are been given the same treatment, they're not offering to buy the club, but are just loan sharks as far as I can see.
 


What will it take for you people to understand that targets and deadlines are not divine law in sales such as this one? There are almost always hiccups, hurdles, delays. More discussions, more due diligence, more bids... It's common and nothing is going to happen if they miss the given target by a few weeks or a month. If the Glazers believe they can get a better offer they are not going to cut the process short out of some principle, particularly when the club is a hot property with many bidders. Not everything is "negative", it's just what's common and reasonable. Could it happen Q1? Sure. Could it draw well into Q2? Also likely.

Called it two months ago and some didn't believe me. Q1 was never a realistic timetable. Let's actually hope it can get done by June/July.
 
In Al Thani we trust and look forward to the prospect of legitimately wealthy and ambitious owners I speak for everyone when I welcome them with open arms and warm smiles.
 
Called it two months ago and some didn't believe me. Q1 was never a realistic timetable. Let's actually hope it can get done by June/July.

Unfortunately its going to ruin our transfer strategy.
 
Glazers determined to run our sale same as they run the transfer strategy. Ugh.
 
Glazers won't care where the money comes from, as long as it meets their value it could come from anywhere.

Who are Elliot financing then? It can surely only be Joel and Avram to buy out their siblings and fund the infrastructure update, and then the same arguement over a deal like this making no financial sense for them comes up again.

I just don't get it, it's almost like they're in on it with the Glazers, and have made it through to the next round to spook SJR and Qatar into bidding that little bit more.
 
Who are Elliot financing then? It can surely only be Joel and Avram to buy out their siblings and fund the infrastructure update, and then the same arguement over a deal like this making no financial sense for them comes up again.

I just don't get it, it's almost like they're in on it with the Glazers, and have made it through to the next round to spook SJR and Qatar into bidding that little bit more.
So they can leech off us like the American banks did (JP Morgan was it? I can't remember who financed the Glazer bid) off the loans they'll give us. And these loans in particular are high interest ones. Elliot wouldn't care if this team is fighting for relegation, so long as they take their interest.
 
Who are Elliot financing then? It can surely only be Joel and Avram to buy out their siblings and fund the infrastructure update, and then the same arguement over a deal like this making no financial sense for them comes up again.

I just don't get it, it's almost like they're in on it with the Glazers, and have made it through to the next round to spook SJR and Qatar into bidding that little bit more.
Whatever bidder wants to use them to finance a bid. They’re open to everyone
 
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One of the most important reasons for delaying the United deal is that the team’s owners are procrastinating to get more money, although the Qatari offer is the highest and most complete offer in all respects, and they will soon agree to it.
 
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