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Right now I just want whatever is going to happen happen.

It doesn't matter what our preference is regardless of what side of the fence you sit, we have no control over it, we just need to move on and hopefully whoever wins has a top strategy to get United moving forward again
 
So Ratcliffe has set himself up to be enemy no.1 with fans if he takes over as nobody wants the glazers associated with this club for a second longer
 
bosnian_red said:
Ratcliffes method is the much more standard method of buying a business where you agree to a rough terms of a deal and then make minor adjustments in later negotiations. Qatar's method of just bigger offers is more of a joke - if you wanted it for that price, make it during the normal bidding phases, not adding 2 fecking offers after the bidding phases were done with. These 2 were both desperation offers from Qatar and it's a bit of a joke because they realized they weren't bidding high enough to start with or didn't realize the Glazers were serious about their price, or that Ratcliffe was more competitive from the start.

If the bidding process is anything to go by in terms of how we'll be run going forward, I would steer WELL CLEAR of Qatar. Because they've looked like a joke from the outside. Like Woodward trying to buy Maguire, with the exception of infinite money. That is not what anybody should want.
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I agree with this. Qatar have looked rather amateurish and arrogant from the outset. And their appeals over the heads of the Glazers to the fans seemed really bad judgement.

INEOS are just trying to find a solution by compromise and flexibility. Not saying they're the best for the club, but Qatar has increasingly worried me as a prospect.
 
Castia said:
The guy from Iceland was probably offering more money than Ineos mate

Little weasel Jim putting a premium down because he only wants 50% of the club has completely fecked this whole process up. He needs to take his bid and the fact that he will keep the Glazers on and feck right off
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The way it was explained to me, Ratcliffe has offered more money to the Glazers. The payout scheme or the timetable is completely irrelevant to them as long as they get their money. If Jassim wanted the club so much, he should have offered more than Ratcliffe. Ratcliffe simple gave the Glazers the better offer. That's the long and short of it. Whether it's best for the club or not ultimately doesn't matter.

This latest bid by the Qatari is their way to save face. I think the deadline put forward is not coincidental. I imagine Ratcliffe wants the announcement done this weekend, as a way to shit on City's treble parade, and Qatar are getting ahead of it.
 
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Ah… well that sucks.

I was getting excited at the new Jassim bid and within minutes it’s flattened.

This whole process has been pretty much analogous of the Glazers’ entire time at Utd…

Hope, HOPE - let down

Hope, HOPE - let down

And on and on.

Whatever’s happening just fecking announce it and stop wrecking ETH’s transfer window, you fecking repulsive parasites.
 
mufc_sd said:
Quoting Lawton here:

"Sheikh Jassim will withdraw from the process if his fifth and final offer for Manchester United is not accepted by Friday. That reads to me like they fear Ratcliffe/Ineos have won and they’re walking away on their own terms. That said, nothing is signed yet."
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Yep looks like it’s Ineos unfortunately.
 
bosnian_red said:
Ratcliffes method is the much more standard method of buying a business where you agree to a rough terms of a deal and then make minor adjustments in later negotiations. Qatar's method of just bigger offers is more of a joke - if you wanted it for that price, make it during the normal bidding phases, not adding 2 fecking offers after the bidding phases were done with. These 2 were both desperation offers from Qatar and it's a bit of a joke because they realized they weren't bidding high enough to start with or didn't realize the Glazers were serious about their price, or that Ratcliffe was more competitive from the start.

If the bidding process is anything to go by in terms of how we'll be run going forward, I would steer WELL CLEAR of Qatar. Because they've looked like a joke from the outside. Like Woodward trying to buy Maguire, with the exception of infinite money. That is not what anybody should want.
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I'd agree with that generally. But Jimmy changed his target from buying the whole club to buying part of the club. That reeks of desperation to me and you can't blame people for questioning his commitment to buying the club. We all know the most valuable bid will win. But never in my mind that the potential owners will let Glazers to still own part of the club to make their bid more valuable... that's dirty, for both the club and the fans. Since we wanted Glazers out.
 
kouroux said:
Can someone please catch me up on the latest ?
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Qatar are basically Woodward chasing Maguire and have submitted multiple bids after what was supposed to be the "make your best offer" bid. Ratcliffe has been negotiating finer details on a balance that gets him ownership but keeps the Glazers as minority for the time being.

Qatar just looks like they didn't expect the Glazers to be serious, didn't take the bidding rounds seriously, didn't take Ratcliffes offers seriously... Just amateurish imo. Hugely worrying if they would take over if this is anything to go by, as it's been a circus from their POV.
 
How is it walking away on their own terms if they're throwing another huge bundle of cash at it which may get rejected? Wouldn't walking away after after the previously failed bid be walking away on their own terms too?

My point is, what a load of shite.
 
Now it’s become clear why they wanted to delay announcement till season is over. They know it would be a shitshow news presentation before then.
 
Castia said:
The guy from Iceland was probably offering more money than Ineos mate

Little weasel Jim putting a premium down because he only wants 50% of the club has completely fecked this whole process up. He needs to take his bid and the fact that he will keep the Glazers on and feck right off
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Absolutely no reading comprehension or ability to think critically here because state money has blurred your vision, absolutely wild some of the posts on this forum mind. Regardless of the fact you are biased towards Qatar, you obviously have read nothing beyond reactionary headlines towards the Ratcliffe/INEOS bid.

"Little weasel Jim" putting up even a single penny has not "fecked this whole process up." Qatar/SJ have virtually unlimited funds, so why do they continue to underbid Ratcliffe/INEOS, the Glazers don't give two shits about 1 billion investment pledges and so on.

The guy from Iceland was a fraud talking about giving voting rights to members who signed up to an app, which is why his bid was dismissed out of hand. Ratcliffe/INEOS have offered up two deals, one for 100% same as Qatar/SJ and one for a controlling stake in the club, leaving the Glazers with some monetary shares and no control over the club until he buys out their remaining shares at a premium a couple of years down the line. Why? Because it's been widely reported and is well known that the Glazers don't necessarily want to leave United yet because they think it will increase in value in a few years, they're only in this process because their hand has been forced.

So if the only way to get the Glazers to sell is to keep them around in some capacity, but having no say or control over the club, then i'm glad Ratcliffe offered that option. For some reason people like you seem to think the Glazers should undersell on their valuation to Qatar/SJ out of the goodness of their hearts for us fans but that's just not how them or the real world works is it.
 
Welcome to Manchester Sir Jim Ratcliffe and please continue to enjoy your stay Glazer family :D
 
Keegan mentioned that the bid went in earlier this week basically admitting he's slow to reporting, however, the timing of Matt Lawton's article is very interesting.
 
Telsim said:
The way it was explained to me, Ratcliffe has offered more money to the Glazers. The payout scheme or the timetable is completely irrelevant to them as long as they get their money. If Jassim wanted the club so much, he should have offered more than Ratcliffe. Ratcliffe simple gave the Glazers the better offer. That's the long and short of it. Whether it's best for the club or not ultimately doesn't matter.

This latest bid by the Qatari is their way to save face. I think the deadline put forward is not coincidental. I imagine Ratcliffe wants the announcement done this weekend, as a way to shit on City's treble parade, and Qatar are getting ahead of it.
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Won’t it add to City’s parade? They’re desperate for Jim to get it over Qatar as is everyone in Europe they know we’re doing feck all under Jim.

And that’s why I called him a weasel he’s willing to keep the Glazers around and only own 50% of the club nobody else is willing to do that and rightly so. So if those greedy bastards and Jim want to get into bed together that’s fine but the club will continue to be a complete mess going forward
 
mufc_sd said:
Quoting Lawton here:

"Sheikh Jassim will withdraw from the process if his fifth and final offer for Manchester United is not accepted by Friday. That reads to me like they fear Ratcliffe/Ineos have won and they’re walking away on their own terms. That said, nothing is signed yet."
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It was always feared that the Glazers would piss off the Qataris and now it seems they have. Twats.
 
Their bid STILL doesn’t match Ineos??

Ineos will only buy out all 69% of shares over 3 years, why don’t Qatar just offer to do the same?
 
Berbaclass said:
The difference in bids is now relatively tiny I think. They’d be mad not to take the Qatar offer
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Yeah I don’t see this Jim parade that everyone else sees. Someone had to put their foot down and I’d guess Glazers even get a bit more out of Qatar by Friday
 


So Jassim offering $6.5 Billion Cash up front straight into the Glazers pockets?

What's the Ineos offer rumoured to be at?
 
Berbaclass said:
The difference in bids is now relatively tiny I think. They’d be mad not to take the Qatar offer
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Do people still want this absolute weapon in charge? He'd be putting in a 9th bid for FDJ over two years after he'd retired going by how he operates.
 
bosnian_red said:
Ratcliffes method is the much more standard method of buying a business where you agree to a rough terms of a deal and then make minor adjustments in later negotiations. Qatar's method of just bigger offers is more of a joke - if you wanted it for that price, make it during the normal bidding phases, not adding 2 fecking offers after the bidding phases were done with. These 2 were both desperation offers from Qatar and it's a bit of a joke because they realized they weren't bidding high enough to start with or didn't realize the Glazers were serious about their price, or that Ratcliffe was more competitive from the start.

If the bidding process is anything to go by in terms of how we'll be run going forward, I would steer WELL CLEAR of Qatar. Because they've looked like a joke from the outside. Like Woodward trying to buy Maguire, with the exception of infinite money. That is not what anybody should want.
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Spot on, I wouldn’t be surprised if reason they have not really got anywhere with Raine is because they haven’t really been regarded as a viable option.

There is a tendency from a lot of people to regard everything INEOS do in the process as negative. In reality I think they are just more flexible and professional and that’s why they will get the deal done.
 
It seems like there are only two pictures of Jassim.
The one above and the other where he stands besides his Squidward-looking younger family member wearing United shirt.
Maybe he is an AI generated person and doesn't actually exist?
 
Castia said:
Won’t it add to City’s parade? They’re desperate for Jim to get it over Qatar as is everyone in Europe they know we’re doing feck all under Jim.

And that’s why I called him a weasel he’s willing to keep the Glazers around and only own 50% of the club nobody else is willing to do that and rightly so. So if those greedy bastards and Jim want to get into bed together that’s fine but the club will continue to be a complete mess going forward
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That depends on your point of view. I think City treble and Jim Glazer announcement in the same weekend will spell the darkest weekend in club's recent history. But I doubt he and the INEOS crowd see it that way.
 
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Funny that this was tweeted just before Keegan even said anything. Not to say it's a trusted source of information of course but they aren't completely frauds either they definitely have something going
 
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