All a game isn't it. Negotiating happens in every walk of life. They are probably frustrated like most of us are. Unfortunately these things take time.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Qatar's 5th bid is still lower than Ineos' 3rd one? Who's "not serious" and "broke" now?
Ugh how disappointing
This.
It’ll be them sat next to the Brexit Rat. Essentially just a new buddy for the Utd old boys boardroom.
They’ll still be coming to the league cup finals, you can guarantee that.
We'll have to see. If what he has said ends up a load of hot air, strengthen the team this summer for show and then next to nothing. No stadium upgrades and the women's team gets ignored then the future might not be too rosy. We have not yet seen his complete plans. I just hope it is not just an ego trip for SJR, that he own United and he is just happy with that. It isn't enough, he has to get us back to the top.
They want their heads looking at.
I suspect Qatari bid is dead in the water and has been for a while and this is just a way to save face.
If there were really serious they’d come up with something better than just slightly improving their bids.
Not sure of exactly how much yet
Yeah and rightfully so he is
They do, but it still doesn't really make sense long term. They could beat the Ratcliffe bid now by buying a percentage and discuss terms on selling over x years (exactly like Ineos are doing). While that's going on they can plan a bid for the public shares. It's only a 3 year delay for them, and if they really want United it's not the end of the world to wait a few years for 100%
Big difference that seems to need repeating here for the constant confusion.
The SJR offer might be higher as it offers zero guarantee of clearing the debt, only reducing it overtime, or funding that meets the level of investment the club needs plus they'll keep the leeches in the picture.
Folks are still seemingly dug in regardless of the long-term ramifications for the club we support, just ask Nice fans how they feel about INEOS ownership.
They leave saying we don't believe any amount will force them to sell, we did our best but feel our time has been wasted and wanted to step out rather than being played rather than wait until the last minute and be seen to lose.
Because Qatar want a full takeover and are going to invest a billion after it. They're not going to invest that money to benefit any minority stake owners (glazers).
Pity we don't have anybody who can empty their bank accounts for them.
Hope the Qatari's take a walk
Yeah what a spoil sport he is
We are so fecked
Qatari's either get the club, or set up SJR to be completely hated by the fanbase for allowing the Glazers to stay in some capacity and not clearing the debt.
No it’s always been more, Ratcliffes is just at a higher valuation because he’s buying less of the club and keeping the parasites in
Matt Lawton’s a sports journalist. How would he all of a sudden know what’s what with this? Again I don’t think any of the usual journalists who report on football and transfers know anything.
How do we not know that this isn’t just the Glazers trying to get Qatar to pay up?
How do we not know that this isn’t just the Glazers trying to get Qatar to pay up?
Probably because daddy told him so. Or for the same reason he kept making slightly improved bids after deadline had passed. It could still be that he is some kind of hidden genius but seriously so far in the bidding process he has come across as a clown.
Personally don't feel this is a way of saving face. Seems more like a way to try and get this moving. Obviously I could be wrong (have been many times before). Doesn't make much sense to try and save face at this point. If they lose out to Jim the world will see it anyway.
So it's lower, got it, thanks.
Haha the air in this thread was deflated within a few minutes of the new bid.
Pride is really important for these human rights abusing sheikh fecks, especially when one of their biggest rivals is buying up all of golf and investing $20bn into their football league.
They’re keeping themselves in.
Oh the Ratcliffers are rejoicing despite the fact all of those leeches will stay on
If Ratcliffe buys 50.1% then with the current Qatar offer they get £400 million more up front @Rhyme Animal
I wish they would stop saying they have bid so and so " with 1 billion pledged for investment on top " that's not part of the bid and it's been a theme since day one.
It's like trying to buy a 100k house and saying I will give you 70k and I'll spend 30k on a loft conversion and conservatory once you've moved out.
It's like trying to buy a 100k house and saying I will give you 70k and I'll spend 30k on a loft conversion and conservatory once you've moved out.
Meh, it’s naive to expect an entity to just pay full asking price when their bids are already record breaking. Ratcliffe is only managing it through buying a much smaller piece currently and leveraging it through INEOS.
Amateurish already offering ridiculously over the odds? You do realise buying 51% is a lot different and less risky than buying 100% at the same share price?So, Jassim's way to disrupt the final negotiations between Ratcliffe and the Glazers is to... still offer less money? Bloody hell...And Qatari PR still not getting that "promised investment" is utterly irrelevant.
I admit I expected a lot more from the Qatari. This is downright amateurish.
My apologies I didn’t explain myself properly
I just mean, the Glazers would ONLY be staying under Ineos because they’d get more money over 3 years
So I am just asking why don’t Qatar offer more, but pay it in instalments? (£2bn per year for 3 years as an example)
Seriously, people are dismissively making money/broke jokes when the figures being reported are already unprecedented and would smash sporting records worldwide for sales
They're being offered quite more than even Real Madrid, the most valuable football club in the world, are currently valued at on the market.
The bids are almost double Chelsea went for just a year ago, that's massive
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