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We don’t know much about Qatari happenings..
So it’s mystique..shady mystique.
It’s funny when this gets trotted out and you ask well what other well known Qatari bankers should these people know as if Elon Musk is the norm.

:lol: It's just such a get out clause for "I know nothing", isn't it?
 
Avram attended his first ever women's match at the weekend for the cup final. Seems wierd he would do that if he just wants to sell up and be gone.

It wouldn't surprise me if they refinanced through the Elliot group if they don't feel the bids are big enough.
 
Avram attended his first ever women's match at the weekend for the cup final. Seems wierd he would do that if he just wants to sell up and be gone.

It wouldn't surprise me if they refinanced through the Elliot group if they don't feel the bids are big enough.

That's a great way to piss off the 2 reported finalists of the bidding process.

They'll sell.
 
Just surprised the Qatari's haven't spoken to the major shareholders who own the 31% that are listed and negotiated.

Give the Glazers their 6 billion valuation of the club which gives them 4.14b.
If the Qatari's offer is 5.6b that leaves the 31% with an 80% upside on current share price which I'd like to think most would be happy with.

The listed shares don't have voting rights. You need the Glazer shares to have majority control.
 
I just want to see the meltdown that occurs if some don't get their wish of aspiring to be like City. The tears will be delicious.
 




Absolutely incredible that so many of you are twerking for this level of shadiness to take over the reigns. Would he ever even attend OT if he was successful? Big red flags over him.

Twerking over either of the two is weird. Massive red flags over Ratcliffe as well.
 
If Jassim's bid is for 100% of the club, as many are now stating, then doesn't that make it considerably less than the offer from SJR?

Also, why is there so little known about Jassim? I've looked him up on google and many articles seem to confuse him with another, more wealthy Jassim. There's very little information about the guy, which is strange considering his position at QIB and his supposed wealth. He almost feels like a character created by Qatar to act as a front for these things. Didn't I recently read that they wouldn't confirm his date of birth when asked recently too? It's shady as feck this Qatar deal.
 
That's a great way to piss off the 2 reported finalists of the bidding process.

They'll sell.

I don't think they care if they piss off Qatar and Ratcliffe. Honestly, they haven't given a shit about United fans for years and some of the psychopaths that follow us could do something really stupid.
 
Also, what happens in 10 years when half the league is owned by a state funded backer? There's only 4 trophies a season to compete for. Will we need to start looking for even richer owners to compete so we can pay players over 10 million pounds a week just to finish in the Top 4. Where does it stop?

The scenario you describe arguably reinforces Qatar as potentially the best long-term scenario for United. If half the league is owned/backed by states, and United isn't, what do you think is going to happen?
 




Absolutely incredible that so many of you are twerking for this level of shadiness to take over the reigns. Would he ever even attend OT if he was successful? Big red flags over him.


Yet with Ratcliffe and INEOS you will get another owner who takes up loans to buy the club and and willing to keep Glazers for some years just to get his hands on the majority stake.

And ZERO promises to fix stadium and training ground.

And they proven at Lausanne and Nice that they are just as clueless running a football club like the parasite Glazers.

No red flags there at all there..
 
If Jassim's bid is for 100% of the club, as many are now stating, then doesn't that make it considerably less than the offer from SJR?

Also, why is there so little known about Jassim? I've looked him up on google and many articles seem to confuse him with another, more wealthy Jassim. There's very little information about the guy, which is strange considering his position at QIB and his supposed wealth. He almost feels like a character created by Qatar to act as a front for these things. Didn't I recently read that they wouldn't confirm his date of birth when asked recently too? It's shady as feck this Qatar deal.

The only thing I can think of is they don't want to give too many details away about him because it'd give threads for journalists to pull at and they might uncover information and facts that wouldn't exactly be helpful for the bid.
 
He is reliable because he's able to use his brain to interpret what people are saying and not be used as a PR machine for shady bidders unlike others.



Oh look, you've found one of the 3 known photos of Jassim in existence. Gold medal for you! :)

Why are there clowns in this forum?

I thought that was a proven photoshop job?
No, it was real; this was taken from a private Instagram post from a relative of his.
 
The listed shares don't have voting rights. You need the Glazer shares to have majority control.

You've misunderstood my point, give the Glazers what they want and negotiate with the other shareholders and give them less per share then what they'd give the Glazers.

Give the Glazers $45.63 per share which gives them their £6 billion valuations and then give the other 31% $35.72 which gives them over a 90% increase on current shareprice.
 
No, it was real; this was taken from a private Instagram post from a relative of his.

Fair enough if so. I’ll take it back. Although no surprise it’s this years kit. Funny how suddenly there’s a photo out there with him in one :lol:
 
If Jassim's bid is for 100% of the club, as many are now stating, then doesn't that make it considerably less than the offer from SJR?

Also, why is there so little known about Jassim? I've looked him up on google and many articles seem to confuse him with another, more wealthy Jassim. There's very little information about the guy, which is strange considering his position at QIB and his supposed wealth. He almost feels like a character created by Qatar to act as a front for these things. Didn't I recently read that they wouldn't confirm his date of birth when asked recently too? It's shady as feck this Qatar deal.

Please see my quote from earlier:

The valuation is per share. When you see SJR bid is x million and Qatar is y million it represents what they value the entire club at. If both value the club at £10 billion SJR will pay £6.9 billion to Glazers. So will Jassim.
For SJR the story ends there. He has what he wants. Jassim on his hand will force through a sale of the rest of the shares and delist the company from the Stock Echange. For this it is likely that he will have to pay the remaining £3.1 billion to the rest of the owners, although things could happen that increase or decrease the valuation between dates of those transactions. Thus Jassim will in the end have paid more money, but the same amount of money per share.
 
Weirder to be shilling for petro state dollars when you don't know if they are a good option just b/c it worked for your rivals

Even weirder to be simping over an Environment destroying Brexiteer who’s unwilling to clear the clubs debt and has a shite track record of running the 2 football clubs he currently owns.
 
People forget the offer is for the Glazers' 61%. Qatar intend to buy 100% by purchasing the other remaining shares from the respective owners.
 
If Jassim's bid is for 100% of the club, as many are now stating, then doesn't that make it considerably less than the offer from SJR?

Also, why is there so little known about Jassim? I've looked him up on google and many articles seem to confuse him with another, more wealthy Jassim. There's very little information about the guy, which is strange considering his position at QIB and his supposed wealth. He almost feels like a character created by Qatar to act as a front for these things. Didn't I recently read that they wouldn't confirm his date of birth when asked recently too? It's shady as feck this Qatar deal.
No it’s pretty close.
 
This process is only going to get more comical when this Qatari bag man Jassim fails the fit and proper person's test for PL ownership.
 
People forget the offer is for the Glazers' 61%. Qatar intend to buy 100% by purchasing the other remaining shares from the respective owners.
This is why is don’t get people hating on them for haggling. Any increase in share price to the glazers translates to having to pay more for the listed shares.
 
Even weirder to be simping over an Environment destroying Brexiteer who’s unwilling to clear the clubs debt and has a shite track record of running the 2 football clubs he currently owns.
Show me in this thread where anyone is doing the level of cucking for SJR that we've seen for Qatar. I'll wait.

Your response is typical of those desperate for petrostate dollars.
 
You've misunderstood my point, give the Glazers what they want and negotiate with the other shareholders and give them less per share then what they'd give the Glazers.

Give the Glazers $45.63 per share which gives them their £6 billion valuations and then give the other 31% $35.72 which gives them over a 90% increase on current shareprice.
There’s no “negotiating with the other shareholders”. It’s literally thousands of people holding them on the public NYSE.

There’s nothing stopping them hoovering them up but the market decides the price. The more they buy, especially in a short period of time, the more the price will go up.


There is mechanisms to purchase them all once they hold a certain amount but the Glazers have absolutely no control over this process.

All these journalists saying that SJ’s offer is for 100% of the company and not 100% of the Glazers shares (69% of the company with higher valued B class shares) don’t have a clue what they are talking about. The Glazers don’t own the shares to sell them. They can’t agree a price for something they do not own.
 
If Jassim's bid is for 100% of the club, as many are now stating, then doesn't that make it considerably less than the offer from SJR?

Also, why is there so little known about Jassim? I've looked him up on google and many articles seem to confuse him with another, more wealthy Jassim. There's very little information about the guy, which is strange considering his position at QIB and his supposed wealth. He almost feels like a character created by Qatar to act as a front for these things. Didn't I recently read that they wouldn't confirm his date of birth when asked recently too? It's shady as feck this Qatar deal.
He has a wikipedia page.
Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad Al Thani, he's Qatari royalty, worth just shy of £300 billion.

He's the only one I've even see mentioned.
Who was it you've seen him get mixed up with?
 
Even weirder to be simping over an Environment destroying Brexiteer who’s unwilling to clear the clubs debt and has a shite track record of running the 2 football clubs he currently owns.
Nobody is simping over anyone and clearly SJR is just another cog in the machine of pretty god awful billionaires.

But how can anyone, those who I'm sure have taken the piss out of the likes of City for years and years for being funded by a state honestly start twerking for it the moment it might seem possible for United? It's ridiculous hypocrisy.

A state with a reprehensible human rights record, and whilst Brexit was shitty I think the likes of modern day slavery, trafficking, women's rights, capital punishment for same sex intercourse - amongst many more - are just a tad bit worse, no? That's me underselling it too.

How can anyone in their right mind want our club to be used as a tool to wash all that away just because the thought of us signing the likes of Mbappe and Neymar far outweighs all that, it's ridiculous.

This disinformation campaign about being unwilling to clear debts etc as well has been massively successful on a lot of you too, it's absolutely wild.
 
This whole saga just continues to show up football journalists for what most of them are. With each new bit of "news" they all rush to embarrass themselves further. The likes of Ben Jacobs chief among them.
 
You've misunderstood my point, give the Glazers what they want and negotiate with the other shareholders and give them less per share then what they'd give the Glazers.

Give the Glazers $45.63 per share which gives them their £6 billion valuations and then give the other 31% $35.72 which gives them over a 90% increase on current shareprice.

Ah ok, but in that case it doesn't matter what the other shareholders think. If they own all the Glazer shares they own 97% of the voting rights and can force those shareholders to sell if necessary.
 
Nobody is simping over anyone and clearly SJR is just another cog in the machine of pretty god awful billionaires.

But how can anyone, those who I'm sure have taken the piss out of the likes of City for years and years for being funded by a state honestly start twerking for it the moment it might seem possible for United? It's ridiculous hypocrisy.

A state with a reprehensible human rights record, and whilst Brexit was shitty I think the likes of modern day slavery, trafficking, women's rights, capital punishment for same sex intercourse - amongst many more - are just a tad bit worse, no? That's me underselling it too.

How can anyone in their right mind want our club to be used as a tool to wash all that away just because the thought of us signing the likes of Mbappe and Neymar far outweighs all that, it's ridiculous.

This disinformation campaign about being unwilling to clear debts etc as well has been massively successful on a lot of you too, it's absolutely wild.
Say it again for those in the back with the Qatar flag wrapped around their heads.
 
This process is only going to get more comical when this Qatari bag man Jassim fails the fit and proper person's test for PL ownership.

All that would of been smoothed out long ago. The league want the investment and so do the government, they don't care where the money comes from.

There's no chance the Qataris would of gone so far down the process if there was even a 10% chance the deal would be blocked in any way, be that the League, Uefa or whoever. It's niave to think that these types of people don't hedge their bets from every angle before making a move.
 


Ben Jacobs here saying the bidding process is working in dollars. SJ is about $7bn whereas SJR bid is $6bn?

Edit: Goes on to say the £ valuation of both is quite similar.



 
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