There is no evidence it's a state bid; say that louder for those at the back.
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There is no evidence it's a state bid; say that louder for those at the back.
You mean this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al_Thani
That's a completely different person and is not the Jassim who is bidding to buy United.
That's why we need Qatar - seeing the Extinction Rebellion twots taking on the Qatari system would be far more entertaining.
They'd never dare though. These groups only protest where it's completely safe.
Are the people at the back blind, deaf and dumb?
I tell you, the Glazers are deliberately dragging this on and ruining our summer transfer window for shit and giggles.
And increasing ticket prices, lower transfer budger, taking dividends from the club... the cycle continues.
Genuine question, does anyone really care if an owner attends or not? I never did, but that could be because we had Glazers as owners. Leicester probably feel differently about late Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha.
He's from Manchester, isn't that enough? Good god, some fans are so entitled
I don't sense the sarcasm... so, are you for real?! I don't care if the owner is from Manchester or the Magreb, is that really what it is about for some fans?
Not if SJR has offered £3bn for 51% of the club he doesn’t have a chance with greedy Glazers who will only want the most money the four selling siblings would get £750m each from SJR or £678m from SJ which bid for you think they will go for with them being greedy parasites that’s £72m more each from SJR !
You again? Please detail how the purchase will be financed and why anyone would be fawning over the bid if it wasn't state-backed. I must have missed the last time you clarified this.
The Glazers also own a shit load of Class A shares too don't they?
So if Qatar are offering to buy those out too ("100% of the club") - then presumably the Glazers will be able to sell their Class A shares at a premium?
If they accept the INEOS offer and the stock price obviously plummets, the 4 outgoing Glazers will get much less money for their Class A shares?
So maybe that's why Qatar can afford to bid a lower overall value of the club?
So if Qatar are offering to buy those out too ("100% of the club") - then presumably the Glazers will be able to sell their Class A shares at a premium?
If they accept the INEOS offer and the stock price obviously plummets, the 4 outgoing Glazers will get much less money for their Class A shares?
So maybe that's why Qatar can afford to bid a lower overall value of the club?
They have noise-canceling headphones and are wearing sleep masks, obviously.
Exactly and Fans and SJ think they will chose the bid with less money in on the table SJ has one final chance put £6.2bn on the table or walk away and go buy Spurs which will be £5bn at least dealing with Daniel Levy , he’s turned down £3.5bn already
Welcome to Doha Utd habibi
You’ve just translated an English tweet from English to English.
I'm not sure your use of terms associated with disability are appropriate for this or any discussion.
Happy discuss your evidence, so far there is zero evidence the bid is a state bid.
Kevin & Bryan don't hold A class shares
Massive respect for Kaveh on Sky.
He gets a bad rap, but listening to him report on the latest bid last night/ today he was brilliant.
Called the Glazers out in a way I haven’t seen from any main stream outlet before.
He gets a bad rap, but listening to him report on the latest bid last night/ today he was brilliant.
Called the Glazers out in a way I haven’t seen from any main stream outlet before.
Quite the opposite weirdly. It was those pro Qatari bid were the ones sure SJR had won it and thus the massive hissy fits across this thread. Majority of thos against the Qatari bid were basically saying its still 50-50 or like 55-45, and guessing Jassim would come with another bid if the reporting was true..
Yeah because Jassim won't put up bid of £6bn outright which includes £1bn to clear debt so will remain short of Ratcliffe
You’ve just translated an English tweet from English to English.
It's a gift, what can I say!
When your write things that aren't factual.
It's been stated maybe times it's Jassim's bid, I don't have to evidence anything I've been very clear, you and others haven't proven it's a state bid. The onus is on you to prove it's not Jassim's bid.
Deflect
How do people still think INEOS is favorite? From what we now Glazers met with the Qataris and hours later they put in another bid. Looks pretty over to me
Can only see them being left humiliated by Ratcliffe because that final bid still isn't big enough for them to become front runners
Last time I ventured in this thread, people were claiming the SJR bid was for the Glazer share only, which was over £5b for 69%.-
Possibly, but it's just strange how there's barely any mention, if any, from prior to his bid for United. Even his Wikipedia was extremely short when the bid was announced, as though it had quickly been created.
Ok that makes the most sense, and is how I thought it worked but was told different last time.
You just proved my point. That is clearly a different guy and is the one I see journos get him confused with...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al_Thani
Our Jassim is worth £1b apparently. But who the feck is he?
Are you actually this daft? This has been explained 100's of times at this point but you choose to ignore it.
Well let’s face it you would see it like that.
SJR to increase his previous bid next, no doubt. And so on and so forth...
Deflect
There is zero deflection from me, the onus is on you since you are calling out Jassim and his team.
We have no idea what the actual numbers are but money on the table will be a huge factor and if the valuations are close then Jim is done here
Doubt he'll increase again. He couldn't even increase his first one but simply bid the same for less shares
Explain it again then please. remember Jim made an offer for all Glazer shares but instead of raising his offer he floated this staying bullshit.
Go ahead
He made two offers at the last round of bidding. Both worth more than Jassim's. Why would he raise his offer? Christ.
This isn't a court of law, so you can go somewhere else with that poor attempt to deflect. I can draw reasonable inferences and form opinions, (ie. his stated personal wealth isn't enough to buy the club, and Qatar already has an effectively state-funded club). If you think the opinion is wrong, then it's your job to show that the conclusions drawn are unreasonable. Repeatedly stating the obvious ("It's technically only Jassim's bid") is a waste of everyone's time.
Come on Qatar, not long now.
Don't bother, these 'ard Brexit types just think water is dry until you prove otherwise and somehow that works in their mind.
the qatari approach will be watched by agents with glee. doesnt suggest a very shrewd approach to negotiating, IF the rumours are correct, they've had their goose truly cooked by the glazers. but then again, when the money is literally coming out of the ground and pilling up around you, you can see why they are so blasé about a few hundred million here and there.
That's not proper reporting, which in my view is sticking to the facts and interpreting + communicating them in an impartial manner.
What he did last night was share facts but also subjective personal views. It's ok for an opinion columnist or analyst, but a reporter? It was a bit unprofessional even if you agree with what he said.
I'm aware of all that but there are circa 15 funds who own over 50% of the 31% that is listed.
Reporters can share their opinion as long as they clearly state what's news and what's opinion.
Aren't both Ineos offers still on the table, and the original offer will still be around the same as what Qatar are offering to all 6 Glazers?
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