Berbaclass
Fallen Muppet. Lest we never forget
Some twitter drama going on between ITK's tonight
Yes I agree. If Ratcliffe takes over then Qatar probably weren't really serious.I still think if the plan of the Qatari bid is to pump major money in to us then they will be willing to offer what's required to see off the INEOS bid.
If they don't, they probably weren't really planning to commit the kinda money in to the club that we were led to believe.
Now, that's truly pathetic.Can we stop calling Sir Jim “Rat” please. Google are threatening us with action. Those who do will be banned.
Of course you will be. Brexit Brigade assemble.I’d be tempted to vote for this - there’s some amount of juvenile bollox in here.
The Ratcliffe family lived in Lancashire at Radcliffe. The name of this place translates as red cliff,from its Saxon origin and indicates that originally the town was distinguished by its proximity to such a landmark on the east side of Irwell. So technically we are calling him Jim the REDCan we stop calling Sir Jim “Rat” please. Google are threatening us with action. Those who do will be banned.
"The Rat Pack"Now, that's truly pathetic.
Of course you will be. Brexit Brigade assemble.
People can always say what they want but not without consequences. Or else no one would ever be banned on social media or punched in the face.What kind of action?
We can say what we want
Exactly this. If they're supposed to be so committed to funneling in billions, debt-free, into the club then outbidding INEOS shouldn't be difficult.I still think if the plan of the Qatari bid is to pump major money in to us then they will be willing to offer what's required to see off the INEOS bid.
If they don't, they probably weren't really planning to commit the kinda money in to the club that we were led to believe.
Yeah, but I'm discussing the fact that people are saying that we're selling our souls or need to have a serious look at our morals/ethics if we feel Jassim will be better for the club than Jim will. My post isn't anything to do with what the Glazers prefer or what will actually happen.Right but that's not how the Glazers are looking at it is it.
Glazers POV
More money for us vs Less money for us
If Jassim loses out to SJR he only has himself to blame for not offering the amount of money from his deep pockets to turn the heads of the Glazers. That isn't Ratcliffe's fault.
I'm not sure what people aren't understanding in this thread, if Ratcliffe wins it's because Jassim's offer just wasn't enough, but people are expecting the Glazers should take Jassim's offer even if it's lower than Ratcliffe's, just because it might be better for the club. They don't care.
I think fan protests and petitions would work more on Jim more than Jassim. So let's see how all this pans out. If we are not happy with Jim, we can certainly put pressure on him. If the Glazers are minority shareholders and Jim holds all the cards, they would have no say anyway.
I don't think the poster means immediately. More like in a few years time if Jim turns out as negligent as the Glazers.What kind of fanbase pushes out their horrible owners after 18 years and then starts protesting the new one immediately, because it's not the one the majority wanted?
I don't think the poster means immediately. More like in a few years time if Jim turns out as negligent as the Glazers.
I used to live there, Radeclive is really where the name derives from, that's how it's labled in the Domesday bookThe Ratcliffe family lived in Lancashire at Radcliffe. The name of this place translates as red cliff,from its Saxon origin and indicates that originally the town was distinguished by its proximity to such a landmark on the east side of Irwell. So technically we are calling him Jim the RED
Not the ownership of the club itself, but I do think that whoever wins the bid, the fanbase should be protesting the policies and behavior of the owners, whether it be the human rights abuses in Qatar or the environmental abuses of Ineos. Counter their attempts to sportswash/greenwash. Bring attention and pressure on the bad things that they do.What kind of fanbase pushes out their horrible owners after 18 years and then starts protesting the new one immediately, because it's not the one the majority wanted?
Not the ownership of the club itself, but I do think that whoever wins the bid, the fanbase should be protesting the policies and behavior of the owners, whether it be the human rights abuses in Qatar or the environmental abuses of Ineos. Counter their attempts to sportswash/greenwash. Bring attention and pressure on the bad things that they do.
So would we have given our right arm or not?However, I can already see a lot of people whining about how a full sale didn't happen. Protesting against Ineos because of that from day 1 would be really entitled and idiotic from the fanbase. 6 months ago most fans would've given their right arm for that scenario.
You don’t get it do you. People will protest just like the match day protest the other day because they want the Glazers out and they want the club to be debt free.
Trust me most fans would not have given their right arm to have the Glazers kept on in any capacity.
If SJR takes over in the way that has been suggested the fan base will never accept him, never.
I would gladly accept SJR if he decided to buy the club outright, get rid of the existing debt and be a competent owner.
But at the moment that looks unlikely as he obviously can’t read the room in terms of what the fan base wants
So would we have given our right arm or not?
No, they wouldn't The fans have asked for a full sale and the Glazers to leave for years. Neither of those are going to happen if SJR is the winner.However, I can already see a lot of people whining about how a full sale didn't happen. Protesting against Ineos because of that from day 1 would be really entitled and idiotic from the fanbase. 6 months ago most fans would've given their right arm for that scenario.
You don’t get it do you. People will protest just like the match day protest the other day because they want the Glazers out and they want the club to be debt free.
Trust me most fans would not have given their right arm to have the Glazers kept on in any capacity.
If SJR takes over in the way that has been suggested the fan base will never accept him, never.
I would gladly accept SJR if he decided to buy the club outright, get rid of the existing debt and be a competent owner.
But at the moment that looks unlikely as he obviously can’t read the room in terms of what the fan base wants
No, they wouldn't The fans have asked for a full sale and the Glazers to leave for years. Neither of those are going to happen if SJR is the winner.
I don't think the poster means immediately. More like in a few years time if Jim turns out as negligent as the Glazers.
I agree with you totally I have edited the original post it was supposed to have a quote form rojofiam in it
The glazers have to go
You get rid of cancer by completely cutting it out
Otherwise it has a chance to come back
I think the next exclusive story will be that Qatar has been selected. Just think about it. 1. They will pay the most for the club. 2. They will give the Glazers investment options. 3. They will not take the embarrassment to lose out.
Yep. Watch them take over Liverpool after this.
We are so, so fecked.
Its the only way he can win if he is up against someone who will always outbid him.Ah well the Qatar bid never had a chance once Ratcliffe got into bed with those leeches. Just when we thought the pain of these last 18 years might be ending
Imagine Qatar failing to buy us but goes on to buy Liverpool or Spurs.
Its the only way he can win if he is up against someone who will always outbid him.