Andycoleno9
matchday malcontent
While FFP allows us to spend around 100 mil overallAnd we will spend 80 million on a 2nd striker.
While FFP allows us to spend around 100 mil overallAnd we will spend 80 million on a 2nd striker.
Will easily be boosted with sponsorship and sales.While FFP allows us to spend around 100 mil overall
Yeah, striker who is wanted around Europe, will choose to be a sub for Harry Kane next few years.
Sure, Ramos will pick a club as his next destination that's just signed Harry Kane.
Yeah, tell that same reasoning to Chelsea and City who has quality players stacked in all positions. Tell that to Liverpool who has 6 quality players for front 3 positions. I am not going to bring PSG or Real into this.
Point being , we need a squad and it all depends on how we sell our project to the players.
Yeah, tell that same reasoning to Chelsea and City who has quality players stacked in all positions. Tell that to Liverpool who has 6 quality players for front 3 positions. I am not going to bring PSG or Real into this.
Point being , we need a squad and it all depends on how we sell our project to the players.
Pep and all the rest of the footballing organisation.
Net spend over the last 5 years
1) Chelsea: £-654.21m
22/23: £-480.38m
21/22: £5.79m (3rd)
20/21: £-166.86m (4th)
19/20: £98.57m (4th)
18/19: £-110.23m (3rd)
2) Manchester United: £-540.23m
22/23: £-203.26m
21/22: £-99.5m (6th)
20/21: £-56.45m (2nd)
19/20: £-134.87m (3rd)
18/19: £-45.8m (6th)
3) Arsenal: £-485.64m
22/23: £-148.94m
21/22: £-120m (5th)
20/21: £-59m (8th)
19/20: £-94.58m (8th)
18/19: £-62.71m (5th)
4) West Ham: £-356.5m
22/23: £-152.21m
21/22: £-62.02m (7th)
20/21: £-8.2m (6th)
19/20: £-56.77m (16th)
18/19: £-76.91m (10th)
5) Newcastle: £-351.89m
22/23: £-161.74m
21/22: £-115.19m (11th)
20/21: £-34.18m (12th)
19/20: £-32.89m (13th)
18/19: £-7.68m (13th)
6) Tottenham: £-332.48m
22/23: £-122.95m
21/22: £-54.09m (4th)
20/21: £-85.79m (7th)
19/20: £-74.14m (6th)
18/19: £4.72m (4th)
7) Wolves: £-276.55m
22/23: £-103.15m
21/22: £-5.09m (10th)
20/21: £-7.37m (13th)
19/20: £-81.3m (7th)
18/19: £-78.53m (7th)
8) Aston Villa: £-271.24m
22/23: £-40.73m
21/22: £-2.47m (14th)
20/21: £-87.01m (11th)
19/20: £-138.13m (17th)
18/19: £-2.6m (5th in Championship)
9) Liverpool: £-254.19m
22/23: £-49.7m
21/22: £-50.44m (2nd)
20/21: £-58.7m (3rd)
19/20: £29.94m (Champions)
18/19: £-123.7m (2nd)
10) Manchester City: £-224.97m
22/23: £8.3m
21/22: £-39.81m (Champions)
20/21: £-96.56m (Champions)
19/20: £-78.13m (2nd)
18/19: £-18.54m (Champions)
We've spent well over twice as much as Manchester City yet people still think we'll pass them out if only we spent a bit more money...
Looking good for Sir Jim
City at one point had Aguero, Tevez, Dzeko and Balotelli as strikers in their first team squad. Just saying.Yeah, tell that same reasoning to Chelsea and City who has quality players stacked in all positions. Tell that to Liverpool who has 6 quality players for front 3 positions. I am not going to bring PSG or Real into this.
Point being , we need a squad and it all depends on how we sell our project to the players.
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Please dont ban me for this...... :
(Verse 1) Yo, listen up, I got a tale to tell,
About Manchester United and two owners so swell,
In a life-or-death game, the stakes are high,
Gotta pick between Radcliffe and Sheik Jassim, oh my!
(Chorus) Radcliffe, a titan with a treasure chest of gold,
Financial stability, his story's often told,
Sheik Jassim, from Qatar's royal clan,
Experience in sports, a part of his grand plan.
(Verse 2) Radcliffe's got the cash,
he's a business tycoon, Ineos founder,
he'll make United swoon,
But Sheik Jassim, he's got that royal touch,
Qatar's involvement, it might mean so much!
(Chorus) Radcliffe's got the wealth, a mountain of dough,
Sheik Jassim, a sports master, don't you know,
Both have their merits, it's a tough call to make,
Who'll lead United to glory, for goodness sake?
(Bridge) In this rap game, decisions ain't easy,
Analyzing the options, it can make you queasy,
But remember, my friend, it's more than just the dough,
The club's values and vision, let that knowledge flow.
(Verse 3) So, as I wrap up this rhyme, here's the final say,
Choosing the better owner, it's not child's play,
Consider the facts, but keep an open mind,
For United's future, the right choice we must find!
(Chorus) Radcliffe or Sheik Jassim, who'll take the lead,
United's destiny, their actions will feed,
In this rap battle of ownership might,
Let's hope for a decision that makes everything right!
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That doesn't have anything to do with Ratcliffe's intent
Not sure how relevant that is given it was almost 20 years ago. The game has changed a lot since then.I didn't say it was. You said it wasn't abnormal for clubs to have debt. I pointed out that before the Glazers, United didn't. That's all.
While FFP allows us to spend around 100 mil overall
It's notThat is a sign Qatar are out of race if true
You are right, but people don’t want to hear it. It’s low hanging fruit for those who want to discredit sir Jim as if he is personally responsible for both club decision making.No, not really. The two clubs haven't improved, but they aren't worse off either. And I'm tired of this "Ratcliffe got Lausanne relegated" and similar stuff.
Not sure how relevant that is given it was almost 20 years ago. The game has changed a lot since then.
Care to elaborate? I heard something being trailed on Talkshite, but, as ever, they're spinning it out to get more punters on the hook.Looking good for Sir Jim
It has but I'm willing to bet that if the Glazers hadn't loaded all that debt on the club, we'd still be solvent in 2023.
Most misleading post ever!. Man City 10th in net spend?. This would be after they have completed a title winning team.
Just include two seasons before (when pep 1st started out) and ignore this season (where teams like Chelsea arere-building) you will have an entirely different figure, a more accurate reflection of the current standings. Only Klopp would be the stand-out (Potter and Rodgers pumped above their weight).
But I agree with the point, that money alone wont be enough, a good structure and a good manager is an absolute must - point in case us. (We got penalized due to lack managerial stability and kept changing the squad to suit different styles. Absolutely clueless board)
Go back 10 years and ours is at -1180.96m and City is on -984.42m
Get a feeling that Thursdays going to be a good day, no barkin' from the dog, no smog
And momma cookin a breakfast with no hog!
Underrated rap reference. Didn't expect that
Best post of the thread.
And I’m yelling domino
Its funny, I'd dread the Qataris buying Liverpool but wouldn't be remotely concerned if Jim remembered he was also a Liverpool fan and bought them instead. That's quite telling I think.The problem with the Ratcliffe bid is the opportunity cost lost. It just got me thinking that its possible the Sheikh might consider a cheaper bid for Liverpool instead if he misses out here. Stranger things have happened. And that would be worst case scenario. In fact, for us it doesn't really matter who we get as we are an absolute money making brand. Pool needs the Sheikhs more. Imagine Sir Ratcliffe loses out to the Sheikh, he is not going to bid for Pool (he has said so himself) and even if he does, its not limitless cash flow which is what Pool desperately needs. It is for this reason, I feel the Sheikh's should win the bid.
We are solvent, as in able to meet our debt obligations. Things may be a bit tight but we have not crossed into insolvency.
We are solvent, as in able to meet our debt obligations. Things may be a bit tight but we have not crossed into insolvency.
Not to mention that those City numbers are a fairytale. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd spent that number again under the table.Why stop at including two seasons before?
Ahh, yes, Sheikh Jassim and his NinetyThe problem with the Ratcliffe bid is the opportunity cost lost. It just got me thinking that its possible the Sheikh might consider a cheaper bid for Liverpool instead if he misses out here. Stranger things have happened. And that would be worst case scenario. In fact, for us it doesn't really matter who we get as we are an absolute money making brand. Pool needs the Sheikhs more. Imagine Sir Ratcliffe loses out to the Sheikh, he is not going to bid for Pool (he has said so himself) and even if he does, its not limitless cash flow which is what Pool desperately needs. It is for this reason, I feel the Sheikh's should win the bid.
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SJR/Ineos
- Not rich enough
I don't think these are good examples. No club will buy one of the best strikers in the world in his prime, while also buying one of the hottest prospects around that's 21 and looking for his big move both in the same summer. It's as if Barca decided to buy both Lewandowski and Nunez last summer.
Based on what I've seen from the maniacs in this thread, you could spin either outcome in a negative way.
SJR/Ineos
- "Chelsea fan"
- Nice are shit
- Not wiping the dept
- Not rich enough
- Glazers temporarily staying
- Brailsford
Jassim/Qatar
- Sportswashing
- Rumours of wanting to appoint ex players in positions just to appease fans
- Money doesn't solve everything, inexperienced
- Malaga/Al Thani links
- Possible glamour signings could mean a move away from the current direction we've finally started heading towards.
Either way surely both options are better than the current where we are owned by parasites who literally make us poorer.